... suck... so does the popular media. CNN, MSNBC and FOX news can all kiss my butt. I'm watching Bruce Lee, Rocky and Schwarzenegger movies with my morning coffee from now on! After that, I'm going to WORK to make this country a stronger, better place. I'm putting my head down, getting my job done, and paying my taxes (whatever they may be). I'm buying American whenever I can with whatever is left, I am watching those levying taxes on me like a hawk (trust me, I do my own taxes, I haven't been given a raise, and I'm watching), and not complaining unless I, or someone else can prove that Iran or North Korea gets my tax dollars to help fund their nuclear programs. When I need medical care, I'll go get it an pay my deductible with a smile knowing that just a century ago I would be 'over-the-hill' at 35 years old, and my current condition would probably be terminal.
There are many who believe that this country is ruined
There are many who believe it is perched upon a renaissance
My hope is that we all believe that EITHER are possible depending on whether or not we focus on our individual responsibility to STOP BEEEEEYOTCHING and WORK HARD within our very imperfect, but extraordinarily fair system.
Seriously... can we PAHLEEEASE STOP ARGUING AND START PUTTING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER!?! :cheers:
P.S. I love GStwins.com (member since 2003) :cookoo:
careful, frankie is prolly gonna be in here soon to flame you for ranting about politics and to just let it die allready and then offer a group hug. :laugh: :laugh: :cheers:
Quote from: jserio on November 07, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
careful, frankie is prolly gonna be in here soon to flame you for ranting about politics and to just let it die allready and then offer a group hug. :laugh: :laugh: :cheers:
but to quote him, hes gonna be a pain in the ass for the next 8 years :mad: :icon_rolleyes:, but hell, yeah most lean to left, a few lean to right, but not many are impartial. meh i get my news from internet now and pull multiple sources. hell they had teh victory numbers 2 WEKS BEFORE election was even begun. they must be psychic :laugh: :laugh:
i am trying to keep it to a minimum...group hug lol too funny :bowdown:
this reminds me...
saw on the news the other day a clip of a lady with her cpl of small children attending one of those political rallies and while weeping she says "I can't believe I get to be alive for this moment, the greatest moment in history!"
Good Lord!! Are people THIS confused these days?
If I had to put my $$ on a few of the 'greatest days in history' I might first start with... oh say 2000 years ago when JC changed the world, or when slavery is abolished in Europe or NA, or I'd even put the end of WWII before this.
But hey... thats just me.
well i am sure to some or even many people election night may well have been the greatest moment in their history. right off the top she is speaking for her living history the "i can't believe" quote. JC is a fable and has not scientific or historic fact. slavery...well if u were a slave yes i suppose but that was hundreds of years ago. the world wars again not in this persons life time. i would have to think long and hard about personal history and what single event was greatest. for me as a person it may be getting elected. that is probably true for my immediate and extended family. the first to grad university and the first to hold elected office oh and the first to be a commissioned officer. the worst days were family deaths and deaths of those under my command in battle. historically i think the world wide event that i would tag as the most monumental would be 9/11. it just changed everything, but the jury is still out on how. in the same vain that the Kennedy assassination did. as a nation in the last say ohh 100 years Obama election is definitely in the top 3. the world wars were...well world wars...and not America's alone. as a nation i think the bush presidency will not bode well. historians, i believe, would be seen as a very dark time in American history. much like the McCarthy era. i am confident that history will paint bush as the worst president ever.
i doubt this woman was withit enough when she said "greatest moment in history" to mean "the greatest moment I'm alive for and only includes American history." Of course I'd have to ask her personally, but I doubt it.
QuoteJC is a fable and has not scientific or historic fact.
There is more historical documents written about JC than any other figure. Check it out, you'd be suprised.
Quoteslavery...well if u were a slave yes i suppose but that was hundreds of years ago.
I'm sure if you were a slave yes, it might be the greatest moment in history, but those who haven't directly dealt with slavery can still feel the effects of it and imagine what its like. . Like most of us GenX who havent seen war first-hand (unless you're in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) but can feel the effects from those who have. I still say the end of any war is a great day ;)
I dunno, my 2c.
HA HA HA! You started another political thread. HA HA HA!
I like CBS for local news and BBC for international. :)
Quote from: LOUiE on November 10, 2008, 11:11:54 AMThere is more historical documents written about JC than any other figure. Check it out, you'd be suprised.
No. Sorry. There are more historical documents about many other figures. The Founding Fathers of the United States, for example. Perhaps you mean there are more documents about the Son of God than any other figure from 2000 years ago. Even that wouldn't be true. The Caesars, for example, would have many volumes of documents about them. Jesus, however, is shrouded in a great deal of mystery... Otherwise, no one could even try to dispute his existence. But, it can be and is disputed from time to time. Even the gospels have conflicting information, which is often an example of the mystery used to dispute the stories of Jesus.
I would agree that there are more MODERN documents written about Jesus than any other figure, but definitely not historical documents.
QuoteI would agree that there are more MODERN documents written about Jesus than any other figure, but definitely not historical documents.
yes, I guess I should proofread more before making outlandish statements ;)
i meant to say ... there are more documents from his time than other figures - who are trusted as being 'historical figures' - whereas more evidence exists of JC yet his existence is always questioned.
there.. much more wordy but I'm confident in this one :cookoo:
Quote from: frankieG on November 09, 2008, 08:59:48 AM
i am trying to keep it to a minimum...group hug lol too funny :bowdown:
you are going to fail :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: but hell well all be here after, and will be here next time elec comes. this is my second one here. ive been here since 03. it was nasty then, nasty now. nasty name calling from a nasty direction, only thing that needs to be nasty is a fetish pr0n. mmmkay :thumb:
the bible is not considered a true historical work of literature, it is fiction. you take the bible out and there is no evidence of JC existing. actually JC and much of the story is taken from other religions and made into what is now known as Christianity. it is not real, he is not real, the whole thing is not real.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2123692582509629611
the link above explains it all. god and Jesus are as real as Pamela Anderson's fun bags. or this
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
in your opinion. thanks for the offensive ( yet again) reply. much appreciated. i dont see EVER a religious post. trying to piss off the non religious like yourself frankie. i dont, if there is one, link it here
yes yamakonkawazuki and you have never pissed anyone off. your tirade after president obama's win was an eye opener for me. so to quote the so called "truth" "he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Quote from: frankieG on November 11, 2008, 03:14:39 AM
yes yamakonkawazuki and you have never pissed anyone off. your tirade after president obama's win was an eye opener for me. so to quote the so called "truth" "he who is without sin cast the first stone"
care to answer the qwquestion, or is this a mission of yours?
sorry but i don't know what you are asking for
read my reply as written. the quetion is QUITE obvious
ill even quote it for you
" i dont see EVER a religious post. trying to piss off the non religious like yourself frankie. i dont, if there is one, link it here"
Quote from: LOUiE on November 09, 2008, 12:22:32 PM
this reminds me...
saw on the news the other day a clip of a lady with her cpl of small children attending one of those political rallies and while weeping she says "I can't believe I get to be alive for this moment, the greatest moment in history!"
Good Lord!! Are people THIS confused these days?
If I had to put my $$ on a few of the 'greatest days in history' I might first start with... oh say 2000 years ago when JC changed the world, or when slavery is abolished in Europe or NA, or I'd even put the end of WWII before this.
But hey... thats just me.
read
not a religious attack on the non religious. try again
i never used the word attack...that is your word. i just responded to a post..at least that was my intent. i was not so childish to call our president osama either.
Quote from: frankieG on November 11, 2008, 04:00:51 AM
i never used the word attack...that is your word. i just responded to a post..at least that was my intent. i was not so childish to call our president osama either.
Neither did i, unless you count the photochop. then again we had peopel here callin mccain, mcsame. without cause. we had people doin that. main reason frankie, i stll consider you( even though weve not met) a friend. and we will disagree on many things. so take that into account when posting., some people take offense to what some others post. thats all take care :thumb:
Quote from: frankieG on November 11, 2008, 03:14:39 AM
yes yamakonkawazuki and you have never pissed anyone off. your tirade after president obama's win was an eye opener for me. so to quote the so called "truth" "he who is without sin cast the first stone"
btw hes not president- yet :thumb:
ok just a misunderstanding then.
and tbh ive not had a tirade. a bit disgruntled perhaps, BUT you know what, ill take his election with cautious optimism. not liek ive got qa choice anyhow. no one knows how hell do. people hope, but they dont know. even obama himself doesnt know what or how hell od , he may know what he wants to try, but thats about it. he doesnt know the outcome. in all honest though i hope he does not repeal teh exec order for offshore drilling. that will hurt his chances in 4 years. specially if gas spikes again. i do see his plan. which is a long term plan, but we need short term help. while working on the long term plan. oil can be flowing in around 3-4 years not 10+ that some say. anyhoo like i said, ill watch/support him with cautious optimism. :thumb:
Quote from: frankieG on November 11, 2008, 03:08:02 AM
the bible is not considered a true historical work of literature, it is fiction. you take the bible out and there is no evidence of JC existing. actually JC and much of the story is taken from other religions and made into what is now known as Christianity. it is not real, he is not real, the whole thing is not real.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2123692582509629611
the link above explains it all. god and Jesus are as real as Pamela Anderson's fun bags. or this
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
that video is lot like taking numbers/statistics from you fav ball team. You can make anything sound good.
"its fake, it comes from other religions"... yadayada... i've heard it all before. Do people just think it pooped up out of nowhere? POOOF ... voila Christianity!!... of course its gonna take shape from other things... it wasn't an isolated event.
ps... i'm not offended. Curious as why Frankie got so 'uppity' tho :kiss3:
meh my time of the month lol :cookoo:
wow! I almost posted straight to the TardFarm with this one. I returned to see 2 pages of responses... no doubt varied, respectful and valuable opinions from a strong cross-section of members, or else it would have been TF'ed...
... oh well :laugh:
I still feel the same. I'm up to "Fist of Fury" with my morning videos... and contemplating starting Schwarzenegger with Predator, then working backwards chronologically :thumb: