I've been looking around at bikes for a little while in my quest for more power. I have sat on a ton of "crotch rockets" though and the bottom line is they are all extremely uncomfortable for any distance riding or commuting. I've recently been looking at a few Ninja 650R's though and I really like the upright seating position and the style. I also want a fuel injected biike b/c they are easier to get on and go. i have read the 650R is the SV650's rival...I just wanted to get some of your thoughts on the bike. Let me know!
Like the simplicity, the parallel twin, the FI, the ease of working on it and the fact that new 07's still on the floor at local stealer for 4999, but hate the steel frame.
Its lighter but taller than the SV650 and I am almost certain it will take a modded GSXR 750 89-95 shock. Modded as in, you fit a bushing inside the clevise and fit it in.
Let me know how it works ...
SV is aluminum frame, but a V twin ... and new 07's around for 5200 or so.
Cool.
Buddha.
The Ninja 650R looks like a real nice bike.
However, don't rule out the ZZR600, or a GSX650F. It's been getting great reviews, and the dealer are make some great deals to move them.
If you don't mind an i4, the FZ600 make fit the bill too. Its bigger than an SV, upright, and many use them for distance riding.
It's a pretty nice bike, on my upgrade to list. Not really affordable for me though right now. I assume you've googled for more reviews on it? Here's a link to one of the Ninja650 forums, http://www.ninja650.com/phpbb/ . They also just updated it for 2009.
Tony
i like it alot. upright riding position ... and that overly exposed shock .. nice!
Quote from: TonyKZ1 on November 18, 2008, 08:45:43 AM
It's a pretty nice bike, on my upgrade to list. Not really affordable for me though right now. I assume you've googled for more reviews on it? Here's a link to one of the Ninja650 forums, http://www.ninja650.com/phpbb/ . They also just updated it for 2009.
Tony
Yea, it's the 2009 that has me drooling. I have been reading quite a bit about it and I like it more and more each time I see it. It is beautiful in black too!!! That's always been my color.
(http://www.talladegacyclesales.com/spider/cache/2008/images/1222103187c4579f5f.jpg)
And now we've got the Ninja 650r, the ER-6n, and the Versys. To make it a even harder choice..
Tony
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/8/638/Motorcycle-Article/2006-Ninja-650R-vs-Suzuki-SV650.aspx
the link is a comparo for the two. i like the ninja's new look and feel however the sv has a proven track record. also it beats the ninja in weight, torque and hp. the ninja would have to have considerable work done to match the sv's performance. also the sv has been around much longer. so there are plenty of used and aftermarket parts available. for my money i would get the sv. but for sheer style i like the ninja.
Not just that, SV also is bottom heavy ... the ninja 650 dont have a prayer against an SV. SV is better in almost every respect ... only places where ninja is better is the fact that its easier to work on - 1 valve cover, 1 head, 1 cyl block, 1 cam chain tensioner etc ... against 2 of everything.
However SV1000 kills the 650 ... not only is it a 1000 ... its also better components ... all around, 46 mm forks with 3 adjustments, 3 + 1 (ride height) way adjustable rear shock a chain and geared cam shaft drive that will let you pull one cam shaft at a time without taking off the cam chain tensioner ... you could pull both actually, the crank will keep it in place ... but for safety sake 1 at a time ...
Anyway ... ninja 650 IMHO ... needs a aluminum frame and a lower price tag to get a leg up on the SV ... it has not much else going for it. Parallel twin ... yea that is an advantage only in here ... in the real world, people think V twin has more torque ... and a parrallel twin ... well its "just a twin". Sorry kawi ... we like your bike ... but you put some shitty crap together and are getting killed. Much much lower $$$ and aluminum frame, before you become a foot note in the middle weight category. Worse yet, only 2 bikes in that category ... no yammie and no honda.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on November 18, 2008, 03:43:43 PM
However SV1000 kills the 650 ... not only is it a 1000 ...
Can't really compare those two...the SV1000 is no longer available, the competition against the Ninja 650r is the SV650 and the Yamaha FZ6r as far as stats and cost.
Once you compare the SV650 and the Ninja, the numbers are strikingly similar for torque and HP, but the Ninja is the cheapest of the three. I think it comes down to personal opinion...and for 2009, mine is slowly leaning away from the SV...
Local stealers are selling sv for less and ninja for more ... I think.
Yea 1000 is a whole other game ... right on that there.
Forget FZ6 ... I4 ... twin is a twin is a twin even if its a Vtwin ... parallel is better but I'd settle for a good V over a 4.
I dunno, ninja 650 seems like it may have some crappy sheite cos its steel frame. And I thought SV was both ligher and made more power and had upgrades available for it cheap and easy cos its been round several years.
Anyway ... let us know what you buy. Love the ninja and OK SV too.
Cool.
Buddha.
1. Read the "Reality Bike Shootout" for a comparison of the FZ6 and the SV650.
2. The FZ was dubbed "the couch" in the test because it is so comfortable, but the engine lacks low and mid power. The top end is great.
3. The SV is a great bike, but it is a bit smaller.
My thoughts: If you will be touring or riding long distances, the FZ6 is the way to go because of its slightly larger size and comfort. Otherwise, the SV is the better, more fun bike.
I've ridden all three, and owned an SV and an FZ. I'd take the SV over the Ninja 650, but I found the '07 FZ6 to be a better all-around package for practical street riding with fun when you want it.