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I completely agree with it. Disclosure: I'm a CCW permit holder and carry nearly everywhere.
CCW license and full time carrier as well, no argument from me. Gun free zones only ensure law abiding citizens will not be armed.
All i have to say is look at what the gun ban in DC caused ...
Im a permit holder as well. only places i cannot go are places which serve alcohol, federal buildings, ( courthouses etc) which i respect
Australia Banned Guns:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15304
i like my guns, but DC law says I can't carry them around, so i leave them stashed at home :dunno_white:
Ya know, this topic gets old and boring after a while... ;)
Quote from: 97gs500e on November 24, 2008, 04:17:35 PM
Discuss.
The picture has shock value, and 'gun nut' comes to mind. I think that particular font is universal for "GUN SHOW THIS WEEKEND ONLY!!!" advertisements everywhere.
Hopefully I'll never need to discharge mine. Oh my goodness I hope I never have to. But it will be locked, loaded. Ohhhhhh yes it will.
Gun nuts, gun nuts, gun nuts ...
BTW every gun used in a crime was once sold for non criminal use ... you guys know that right ...
Gun bans on cities is meaningless unless you prevent people from crossing over into the city and confiscate all the weapons that are already in there ...
And ... since there is no way to take back all the guns ... all I can say is ... switch to a fully different bio coded ammo system, and stop making ammo for anything that already exists ... maybe all the future ammo should have a pretzel shape ... And all legit gun owners will be allowed to trade for those which will only fire for the one person whose finger print is recorded in its trigger at registration. That way ... you can carry a gun, it only fires in your hand, your house is safe cos you can keep it sitting on the kitchen counter and anyone that breaks in ... well he may have a gun ... but he nearly dont have free access to ammo and you do, in fact you have 4 kids, each one who is old enough can have a gun of their own. heck I'd give one to a 12 year old if he's mature enough as long as its a paperweight in any one else's hands.
Gun laws are lame ... not unless you round up all the guns (mainly the ones you dont know about) and melt them down.
Cool.
Buddha.
it makes me wonder why our country has gone down this path. if guns were limited there would not be as many shootings, the statistics prove this. countries with tight gun control have much fewer gun crimes. the weapons belong in the hands of the police, military and some hunters. carrying one in public in a country that is not at war on its own soil is, in my opinion, only making things worse. were have you heard of someone stopping a crime with a gun? i don't read about them. that's because it does not happen.
where have I heard of someone stopping a crime with a gun? When I was 4, an armed burglar broke in. My father shot him twice with a .357. I'm pretty sure that qualifies my father as having stopped a crime using a gun :dunno_white: Come one down to the south. I could give you a list of people that have stopped would be muggers in their tracks with the help of concealable firearms.
70% of murders in the US are by firearm, 29% in Canada. but America has less burglaries than Canada. i use Canada as a reference since it is our closest neighbour and ally.
A well armed society is a polite society. We are very cordial and polite in the south ;)
yaaaaa riiiiiight
Im more interested in the stats on murders with melee weapons and unarmed assualts in countries/cities with gun control laws. Lets see how they stack up that way. I dont care abotu gun stats. You have to look at the bigger picture. Violent crime rates as a whole. Not just the ones with guns.
A person who wants to kill someone, or hurt them, doesnt always use a gun.
Quote from: The Buddha on November 24, 2008, 09:39:58 PM
Gun nuts, gun nuts, gun nuts ...
BTW every gun used in a crime was once sold for non criminal use ... you guys know that right ...
Gun bans on cities is meaningless unless you prevent people from crossing over into the city and confiscate all the weapons that are already in there ...
And ... since there is no way to take back all the guns ... all I can say is ... switch to a fully different bio coded ammo system, and stop making ammo for anything that already exists ... maybe all the future ammo should have a pretzel shape ... And all legit gun owners will be allowed to trade for those which will only fire for the one person whose finger print is recorded in its trigger at registration. That way ... you can carry a gun, it only fires in your hand, your house is safe cos you can keep it sitting on the kitchen counter and anyone that breaks in ... well he may have a gun ... but he nearly dont have free access to ammo and you do, in fact you have 4 kids, each one who is old enough can have a gun of their own. heck I'd give one to a 12 year old if he's mature enough as long as its a paperweight in any one else's hands.
Gun laws are lame ... not unless you round up all the guns (mainly the ones you dont know about) and melt them down.
Cool.
Buddha.
Not unless that Gun was Stolen from the Dealer Self.
Quote from: frankieG on November 29, 2008, 08:56:25 PM
it makes me wonder why our country has gone down this path. if guns were limited there would not be as many shootings, the statistics prove this. countries with tight gun control have much fewer gun crimes. the weapons belong in the hands of the police, military and some hunters. carrying one in public in a country that is not at war on its own soil is, in my opinion, only making things worse. were have you heard of someone stopping a crime with a gun? i don't read about them. that's because it does not happen.
Buy the NRA Magazine and read the News Clippings in it.They Have a Page just for those Stories every Issue.
Quote from: Jughead on November 30, 2008, 08:45:46 PM
Quote from: frankieG on November 29, 2008, 08:56:25 PM
it makes me wonder why our country has gone down this path. if guns were limited there would not be as many shootings, the statistics prove this. countries with tight gun control have much fewer gun crimes. the weapons belong in the hands of the police, military and some hunters. carrying one in public in a country that is not at war on its own soil is, in my opinion, only making things worse. were have you heard of someone stopping a crime with a gun? i don't read about them. that's because it does not happen.
Buy the NRA Magazine and read the News Clippings in it.They Have a Page just for those Stories every Issue.
It happens everyday. Newspapers dont print those events because it "promotes vigilantism". They will print however when a man gets killed by an armed assailent.
But I garuantee you, everyday my friend, some ones ass is saved by a concealed weapon. Either by physical confrontation, or the would be perp recognizes that lil thing sticking out from under your jacket or shirt and they think twice. Just because you have never pulled out your weapon from its holster, that doesnt mean it hasnt saved your life or stopped a crime.
yup
its done that for me in AZ. cept it was open carry. i never drew it , nor threatened to, cause if i draw my gun, someone will get shot. i dont bluff it however can be drawn quickly if one knows how
ya well once i get to "the big city" and more crime i may be changing my tune.
Quote from: frankieG on November 29, 2008, 08:56:25 PM
it makes me wonder why our country has gone down this path. if guns were limited there would not be as many shootings, the statistics prove this. countries with tight gun control have much fewer gun crimes. the weapons belong in the hands of the police, military and some hunters. carrying one in public in a country that is not at war on its own soil is, in my opinion, only making things worse. were have you heard of someone stopping a crime with a gun? i don't read about them. that's because it does not happen.
I have personally stopped 2 crimes by being armed. My father owned a mom and pop buisness and over the last 15 years it was opened he protected himself from strong arm robbery at least 10 times. 2 of the times there were more than 3 people trying to assault him and the presence of his firearm was all it took for them to leave in a very rapid manner.
There was a study funded by the Brady Campaign because they belived the same way you did. When the results came back they didn't release it because it said that there are 2.5 million crimes thwarted in the USA by the mere presences of a legally armed citizen. Less than 5% of these incidents were reported to the police and less the 1% of the defencive uses of a firearm is the gun discharged. What it boils down to is 99.9% of the scumbag thieves in our country are cowards. They will only pick on who they percieve as weak and when confronted with force of arms they flee.
Just for your information, the reason you don't see hardly any crime or percieve any threats in MAINE is the fact that you live in the MOST well armed state in the nation.
This makes me feel sad. I know that if there weren't so many guns in society, we'd all be safer. We need to get the Global vision. We need to realize that each has value. Truly, only the police and military need guns. They'll know what to do. They'll protect us. They have been trained. I clench my hands and gnash my teeth and scream to the sky as to WHY all these people think that they need guns...
...guys and gals.........I can't continue with this, I am making myself wanna puke.............may God save us from all the "aforementioned thinking" idiots......................f%$k them with a rusty wood rasp
well, if we cannot have guns, can we have at least one military or one police there at all times?, yeah i know, illogical, BUT when confronted not much chance to get to phone
"Stateside".............."Domestically"..................the Police/Military/Government are NOT our friends. If they are "friendly", they want "information" for the database. And...........they want "your" money. Via fines/taxes by any means necessary to give to the bastards that are supposed to be representing us..................to give away freely as they see fit.......in their 800 dollar suits (one for each day of the week), 150-300 dollar haircuts, and 1000 dollar alligator shoes. I just love to that that Northeastern Bastard Ted Kennedy on television waving a #2 pencil on camera while knowing he has a 300 dollar Mont Blanc in his suit side pocket. We've got problems.
I live in Australia and found the article posted claimiing that Gun control leads to more crime interesting to say the least. I know any author can use stats to their adavantage so I did a quick five minute search about guns and homicide the following two articles show that in America the rates of homicide are about 6 times the rate that we see here in Australia!
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/hmrt.htm
http://www.aic.gov.au/research/homicide/stats/
Don't tell me that gun control doesn't work...
Be good
I'li leave you with htis quote
How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours. ~Wayne Dyer
:cheers:
Quote from: Revere2 on December 01, 2008, 08:01:27 PM
This makes me feel sad. I know that if there weren't so many guns in society, we'd all be safer. We need to get the Global vision. We need to realize that each has value. Truly, only the police and military need guns. They'll know what to do. They'll protect us. They have been trained. I clench my hands and gnash my teeth and scream to the sky as to WHY all these people think that they need guns...
...guys and gals.........I can't continue with this, I am making myself wanna puke.............may God save us from all the "aforementioned thinking" idiots......................f%$k them with a rusty wood rasp
and the downward spiral to Socialism begins. :sad:
Is it downward???
:)
Is it not? :)
tell you what myotis, can you name me a few countries where socialism OR communism has succeeeded.? im willing to read if your willing to reply