Ok well i don't have great pics of the bike and its progress so far but its kinda a frankenstin of bolt on parts. and this winter its time for her to become a real girl. (its a girl cause somthing about riding a boy bike is odd)
currently its spray paint white primer cause the barney purple doesn't work for a 22 year old colledge kid
Kat front end
GSX rear shock
bandit 400 rear wheel
that the basic idea
so there is a bunch of different colors on the bike and my dad lost a bet working on his motorcycle now he has to pay to get my tank plastics and fender painted (woot) and i there is some other maint things that i have been needing to be done
To do (pics will come as progress really gets started)
1. get body painted (dad) its going to be Honda Element orange AT THE PAINT SHOP
2. sand prime and rustolum the frame (dark gray) DONE ITS BLACK THO
3. Oil leaks - valve cover, tach cable, cam chain ten DONE
4. front fork leak ALSO IN THE SHOP
5. paint wheels (two differen colors) WAITING TO DECIDE
6. figure out front brake problem fronts just don't stop well ORDERED NEW PADS WE WILL GO FROM THERE
7. valve adj SKIPPED FOR THIS YEAR
8. double check compression NOT GREAT NUMBERS BUT COULDN"T GET THE HEAD OFF
9. re run some wires for cosmetics WILL BE DONE ON ASSEMBALY
10. header wrap MAYBE
11. R1 taillight WAITING ON TAX RETURN
12. Leds lights and such NEG
13. SV headlight maybe NEG
14. clean and paint motor black CLEANED NOT PAINTED
15. new chain don't know if its ever been replaced 25k miles now WE WILL SEE
16. might need new rod bearings NEVER GOT INSIDE THE MOTOR
17. twin undertail maybe http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=45569.0 NOPE
i'm sure there is more but its class time ill add some more tonight.
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Cool! Can't wait to see the progress. I thought about painting my bike a similar orange color with black wheels, but stuck with the blue/gold combo.
Orange is a slow color. Paint it yellow! Much faster.
Since you're switching to a Katana FE, how about sell me your front caliper. I assume that's it's not part of the brake problem that you mention...
Previous owner stripped the dang bleed screw on mine.
^ yup i got the old caliper here PMing and ya it was fine the new brakes don't stop as good as the old single caliper i figure if i add 6 more pistons it should stop better but it doesn't sooo working on that problem.
You should do red calipers and a polished lip on the rims.
High gloss black the spokes and inner rim, polish the hell out of the lip, maybe do a gold inner-ring on the front brake, red caliper, and repeat out back. Especially if the frame is gonna be dark gray... try to do a dark gray metallic. Same with swingarm... Might wanna consider gloss blacking out the front fork bottoms too. And the tripple tree clamps.
Dan
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on December 02, 2008, 12:30:23 PM
Cool! Can't wait to see the progress. I thought about painting my bike a similar orange color with black wheels, but stuck with the blue/gold combo.
is your up and running yet hahaha its looking really good tho
Quote from: Danny500 on December 02, 2008, 03:31:19 PM
You should do red calipers and a polished lip on the rims.
High gloss black the spokes and inner rim, polish the hell out of the lip, maybe do a gold inner-ring on the front brake, red caliper, and repeat out back. Especially if the frame is gonna be dark gray... try to do a dark gray metallic. Same with swingarm... Might wanna consider gloss blacking out the front fork bottoms too. And the tripple tree clamps.
Dan
ya lower front fork tubs, rear swing arm, and tripples will be the same as the frame
wheels will be black calipers not sure yet def not red that would look funky with the orange front fender and tank maybe silver not sure
Quote from: Mdow on December 02, 2008, 03:33:47 PM
is your up and running yet hahaha its looking really good tho
Yes! It is running! Just have to rebuild the front end before it is ridable.
dang should have said somthing a while back i have my Full GS front end chilling here. sold and shipped now
Quote from: Mdow on December 02, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
.... the new brakes don't stop as good as the old single caliper i figure if i add 6 more pistons it should stop better but it doesn't sooo working on that problem.
What master cylinder are you using?
I normally use GSXR m/c's and have 1 finger braking (with braided lines & EBC HH pads).
Yeah, I remember you talking about that on another thread, Dgyver. That's pretty interesting. That's wouldn't happen to be on your parts bike, would it?
DIBS!!
Mdow, looks like we're part of the winter-rebuild club. Very prestigious. I nominate you treasurer. You can buy me a new chain. :laugh:
Quote from: dgyver on December 03, 2008, 06:38:20 AM(with braided lines & EBC HH pads).
Those two alone on other bikes has done good things for the brake feel, for me.
And regular bleeds. If your brakes aren't bled properly, they'll be soft no matter what you have.
Quote from: wladziu on December 03, 2008, 07:09:25 AM
Yeah, I remember you talking about that on another thread, Dgyver. That's pretty interesting. That's wouldn't happen to be on your parts bike, would it?
DIBS!!
...
Yes but not parting those out until I finish rebuilding my SV and figure out what front end setup to use on my 92 when it goes up for sale.
Quote from: dgyver on December 03, 2008, 06:38:20 AM
Quote from: Mdow on December 02, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
.... the new brakes don't stop as good as the old single caliper i figure if i add 6 more pistons it should stop better but it doesn't sooo working on that problem.
What master cylinder are you using?
I normally use GSXR m/c's and have 1 finger braking (with braided lines & EBC HH pads).
ya what im down to is the pads are just trash.
its a full front brake set up from a 97 Kat 750
calipers pads lines master cyl.
the lever feels great and very stiff but i have squeze the living crap out of it
Quote from: wladziu on December 03, 2008, 07:09:25 AM
Yeah, I remember you talking about that on another thread, Dgyver. That's pretty interesting. That's wouldn't happen to be on your parts bike, would it?
DIBS!!
Mdow, looks like we're part of the winter-rebuild club. Very prestigious. I nominate you treasurer. You can buy me a new chain. :laugh:
sweet treasurer as my first act i will raise all posting tax to 5 bucks a post this includes all previous forum post i acept paypal and cash Thanks every one hahah
Quote from: Roadstergal on December 03, 2008, 08:53:24 AM
Quote from: dgyver on December 03, 2008, 06:38:20 AM(with braided lines & EBC HH pads).
Those two alone on other bikes has done good things for the brake feel, for me.
And regular bleeds. If your brakes aren't bled properly, they'll be soft no matter what you have.
nope not soft at all quiet the oposite. super firm they just don't seem to stop im going to say the pads are trashed is were im at right now
And today it starts
at home
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the new home (brother was not awake but he got it in the garage after i left)
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Well, you've got the start to an awesome project what with already having dual front discs, Yosh pipe and all...
I just love how you have the fire hydrant next to the fire wood...
Ironic? I don't know. :dunno_white:
Dan
Quote from: Danny500 on December 03, 2008, 10:31:39 PM
Well, you've got the start to an awesome project what with already having dual front discs, Yosh pipe and all...
I just love how you have the fire hydrant next to the fire wood...
Ironic? I don't know. :dunno_white:
Dan
haha i never thought about that.
we actually legit found the fire hydrant in a feild camping in the national forest
i was laughing more about parking the bike between to v8 trucks on 35's
ok so compresion tested numbers were not as good as i was hoping. about 130 and 135 it was soposed to be 155-145 when i bought it 2k miles ago
also went to check valves one exhaust seems to be about right couldn't check the other cause i can't turn the motor over. if i try and turn the rear wheel in 1st gear i can lift the bike up. if i bear hug the rear wheel and try and turn it i almost twist it off its center stand. WTF is wrong. i pulled the spark plugs out i just can't seem to compress the valves. the vid i watched made it seem pretty easy to compress them.
but i when ahead and pulled the motor. which is also a pain in the ass. i heard the easy way was to lay it on a some box springs and then just lift the motor out the side. NO!! the bolts have to slide out the other side and the mother has to so some magic turn and twist to clear the frame. took about 2 hours after removing all the bolts to get that POS out.
wasn't a good start of a winter project
and i failed to remeber to bring a camera
Wait until you get ready to put the motor back in! Talk about a pain in the ass!
ya im going to rent an engine lift and pull it up and in.
still not sure what im going to do about valves. i might just do it when i have the head off and set the tolerances then and then double check once on the bike cheating with the starter
Quote from: Mdow on December 04, 2008, 07:02:12 AMi was laughing more about parking the bike between to v8 trucks on 35's
and on that topic, what are you runnin in that YJ, noticed the forward facing pitman arm and passenger side front diff....I'm jeepfreak also O0
Quote from: tulebox on December 07, 2008, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: Mdow on December 04, 2008, 07:02:12 AMi was laughing more about parking the bike between to v8 trucks on 35's
and on that topic, what are you runnin in that YJ, noticed the forward facing pitman arm and passenger side front diff....I'm jeepfreak also O0
not my jeep im a huge jeep hater they really are junk. its afreind of my brothers and is trying to sell it i think
Quote from: Mdow on December 07, 2008, 12:20:11 PM
Quote from: tulebox on December 07, 2008, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: Mdow on December 04, 2008, 07:02:12 AMi was laughing more about parking the bike between to v8 trucks on 35's
and on that topic, what are you runnin in that YJ, noticed the forward facing pitman arm and passenger side front diff....I'm jeepfreak also O0
not my jeep im a huge jeep hater they really are junk. its afreind of my brothers and is trying to sell it i think
:icon_rolleyes: everythings junk if you talk to enough people, but everyones got an a$$hole, too :icon_mrgreen:
been on the trail and broke tomany jeep parts.
i wheel with toyota and jeep guys 98% of the time jeep parts break and get out done buy toyota's
had a 1970 landcruzer have to pull a bunch of 2004 rubicons out of all kinda of places.
when matched up they fail at real offroading but make great road and light use 4x4's
Quote from: Mdow on December 07, 2008, 10:05:48 AM
ok so compresion tested numbers were not as good as i was hoping. about 130 and 135 it was soposed to be 155-145 when i bought it 2k miles ago
also went to check valves one exhaust seems to be about right couldn't check the other cause i can't turn the motor over. if i try and turn the rear wheel in 1st gear i can lift the bike up. if i bear hug the rear wheel and try and turn it i almost twist it off its center stand. WTF is wrong. i pulled the spark plugs out i just can't seem to compress the valves. the vid i watched made it seem pretty easy to compress them.
but i when ahead and pulled the motor. which is also a pain in the ass. i heard the easy way was to lay it on a some box springs and then just lift the motor out the side. NO!! the bolts have to slide out the other side and the mother has to so some magic turn and twist to clear the frame. took about 2 hours after removing all the bolts to get that POS out.
wasn't a good start of a winter project
and i failed to remeber to bring a camera
It is nearly impossible to turn the engine in first gear by pushing the wheel. You need to do it in 6th. Think about it, you want to have the most leverage on the engine by being in the highest gear...
^ talked to my brother about that one and said 6th would have been the beter idea i just didn't think about it that way.
owhell ill get on that when i put it back together motor is out right now
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on December 07, 2008, 10:09:28 AM
Wait until you get ready to put the motor back in! Talk about a pain in the ass!
I'm about a week from putting mine back in and now you've got me scared?! What makes it so difficult? Any tips you can pass along to help the project move forward?
Thanks,
Nick
It was difficult to lift the motor at the correct angle and fit it in the frame without busting up the new paint on the frame. We ended up setting the motor on a block and lifting the frame over the engine and "wiggling" it until it fit.
I am sure there is a better way, but I couldn't see it. I read a couple of threads on here about installing the motor, but it wasn't nearly as easy as those threads made it sound.
great! I waited for awhile but got impatient with myself and finishing the engine rebuild so I know have the front and rear end put back on the frame! My first plan was to lower to frame onto the engine then put everything back together but damn my impatience!
Anyone care to add input or suggestions to someone just getting ready to reinstall the eninge?
Thanks,
Nick
Any updates?
OK well ya know i fail at updating.
motor is back together frame is half way degressed and sanded ready for paint. tank and plastics are off to the shop for paint.
still deciding on wheel color. and need to figure out the front brakes still. i think im going to rebuild them and put new pads on. then put it all back together next time ill get pics of the project before i get all dirty
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well frame is cleaned up and painted.
should be getting the motor in tomarrow and hopfully the rear swing arm on
Did you paint the frame yourself? Looks good.
ya 9 hours of sanding and about an hour of painting
ugh... the long hours definitely paid off!
ya motor is going in tomarow and rebuild should go decently quick hopfully she will be ready to go in 3 weeks or less
motor is in swing arm is on rear suspension is on.
finishing painting the rest of the parts this week and it should be almost good to go next saterday
i PROMISE tomarrow i will get some good pics (tank and stuff should be coming back)
it would be on the road but the front forks are getting new seals stuped ass 97 Kat and not having a locking screw.
i got a few more parts to finish painting today.
and orderign a carb syn kit i think
i also have a extranal gas tank ill post pics and info after work
Nice work! Can't wait to see pics!
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Shock res mounted
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EXT fuel tank for carb work Total = 15 bucks
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i know pics are kinda posted backwards.
end of the day wiring harness is in centerstand and side stand are on. still have to get rear brake on to finish the rear wheel. rear fender and bat box are in too.