Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Rashad on September 17, 2003, 06:25:47 PM
Post by: Rashad on September 17, 2003, 06:25:47 PM
:? In the movie Biker Boyz, what helmet did "the king" have??
it was sooo awesome, the bottom mouth gaurd part flipped up with the screen....
i want.. :mrgreen:
it was sooo awesome, the bottom mouth gaurd part flipped up with the screen....
i want.. :mrgreen:
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: JohNLA on September 17, 2003, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: JohNLA on September 17, 2003, 07:14:00 PM
Wow, somebody watched that movie :o
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: on September 17, 2003, 07:40:34 PM
Post by: on September 17, 2003, 07:40:34 PM
Dont BMW make a helmet like that?!
Stay Safe :thumb:
Stay Safe :thumb:
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Rashad on September 17, 2003, 07:47:15 PM
Post by: Rashad on September 17, 2003, 07:47:15 PM
Hmm..... yeah someone watched it. Whats wrong with the movie? Did you buy into what your friends said? :o someone told me it was dumb, but i actually liked it.
Anyways, back to my question... does anyone have a clue. :guns:
Anyways, back to my question... does anyone have a clue. :guns:
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Yohan on September 17, 2003, 08:40:33 PM
Post by: Yohan on September 17, 2003, 08:40:33 PM
They're made by both HJC and that other company, which I can't remember right now. They're flip up helmets, but I think they're pretty lame.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: TheGoodGuy on September 17, 2003, 08:49:22 PM
Post by: TheGoodGuy on September 17, 2003, 08:49:22 PM
its either ROOF helmets (www.tricktape.com) or Schubert helmets.\\
I havent seen that movie yet. It came out the same week as The Guru, and stuck with a choice between that and biker boyz and my "new" girlfriend on my side, and it being our first movie together, we went and say The Guru, needless to say she enjoyed it, i found it much like any other indian movie of sorts, but it was cool.
We were planning to go see Biker boys next weekend but that never happened.
I havent seen that movie yet. It came out the same week as The Guru, and stuck with a choice between that and biker boyz and my "new" girlfriend on my side, and it being our first movie together, we went and say The Guru, needless to say she enjoyed it, i found it much like any other indian movie of sorts, but it was cool.
We were planning to go see Biker boys next weekend but that never happened.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Adam Fraser on September 17, 2003, 08:54:01 PM
Post by: Adam Fraser on September 17, 2003, 08:54:01 PM
I currently have one, a Lazer Blizzard (snowmobile helmet). But it is DOT approved so I assume you caould use it as a road helmet also. You would have to get a shatterproof shield for it though as the one that comes with it is not. I believe they are under $200.00.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: pantablo on September 17, 2003, 09:27:53 PM
Post by: pantablo on September 17, 2003, 09:27:53 PM
Nolan makes flip up helmets too.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: JasonB on September 17, 2003, 09:41:46 PM
Post by: JasonB on September 17, 2003, 09:41:46 PM
they are loud and heavy and havent heard of a single one that has gotten a snell rating yet, so that would say they arent as safe.
Tho Arai has one so they would prob be the first to get a snell rating if they dont have one already.
Tho Arai has one so they would prob be the first to get a snell rating if they dont have one already.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Rashad on September 17, 2003, 09:53:43 PM
Post by: Rashad on September 17, 2003, 09:53:43 PM
AWESOME! so does anyone have links to either of the previous mentioned helmets... especially the ARAI!? :thumb:
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Blueknyt on September 17, 2003, 10:18:17 PM
Post by: Blueknyt on September 17, 2003, 10:18:17 PM
i wouldnt trust a helmet with a hinge, its a weakpoint that i may need to rely on.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Baker on September 18, 2003, 04:05:13 AM
Post by: Baker on September 18, 2003, 04:05:13 AM
shoei also makes a flip up helmet
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Moose on September 18, 2003, 06:12:58 AM
Post by: Moose on September 18, 2003, 06:12:58 AM
I found quite a few of these type of helmets in the Denniskirk catalog, they ranged anywhere from $150-600 and they had different manufacturs. You might want to check there and see what they have to offer.
Title: Nolan...
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 07:15:06 AM
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 07:15:06 AM
The Nolan is the N100 or 150 or some like that...and Arai makes one too but its 2-3 times the price of the nolan...Personally they are a rather weal helmet...sorta like a beanie...they pass DOT as a 1/2 face helmet...so the flip up is mostly like useless...But It is popular as a smokers helmet.
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Cris on September 18, 2003, 09:30:53 AM
Post by: Cris on September 18, 2003, 09:30:53 AM
I have one.
Bought it from Dennis Kirk last year. Good for riders who wear makeup! :thumb:
Bought it from Dennis Kirk last year. Good for riders who wear makeup! :thumb:
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: fuzzymemory on September 18, 2003, 10:58:21 AM
Post by: fuzzymemory on September 18, 2003, 10:58:21 AM
I have the Shoei flip-up and 2 good friends of mine have the HJC flip-up helmet. The shoei is comfortable, but it's not as well made as other shoeis - there are air leaks and the face shield doesn't have a good seal. The HJC is actually of better quality, so this is one rare case where I would suggest a HJC over a comparable Shoei.
Title: Must be...
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 10:59:30 AM
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 10:59:30 AM
What....
This must be the bike equivalent of applying make up in the car...Oy...just as long as you dont start changing on the bike its fine. But in the past I used to change in the car when sneaking away to do an interview in the middle of work...easy...get in the car and start changing at each stop light/traffic. In Nor Cal traffic worked great.
Cool.
Srinath.
This must be the bike equivalent of applying make up in the car...Oy...just as long as you dont start changing on the bike its fine. But in the past I used to change in the car when sneaking away to do an interview in the middle of work...easy...get in the car and start changing at each stop light/traffic. In Nor Cal traffic worked great.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Must be...
Post by: Cris on September 18, 2003, 11:15:06 AM
Post by: Cris on September 18, 2003, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: seshadri_srinathWhat....
This must be the bike equivalent of applying make up in the car...Oy...just as long as you dont start changing on the bike its fine. But in the past I used to change in the car when sneaking away to do an interview in the middle of work...easy...get in the car and start changing at each stop light/traffic. In Nor Cal traffic worked great.
Cool.
Srinath.
Make-up's on before I get on the bike, Clark Kent... :lol:
Title: Oh well...
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 11:48:18 AM
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 11:48:18 AM
Oh well you dont have to...with that helmet you can put it on after...Never mind...
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Delta88 on September 18, 2003, 12:24:17 PM
Post by: Delta88 on September 18, 2003, 12:24:17 PM
After wearing out a Zeus brand flip-face helmet, I bought an HJC Symax and love it. Yes, flip-faces are somewhat of a compromise with regard to wind noise and weight. I don't find the HJC to feel any heavier than many full-faced designs but, I'm sure it would move the needle a little further. The flip-side, (get it?), is the convenience of being able to move the chinbar out of my way to drink, converse, SNEEZE. No matter how cool some of the full-faced designs look, I doubt I will ever go back to one. I don't roadrace or even speed too much, (hold your typing finger MrSlush), so the SNELL rating just isn't that important to me.
Motorcycle Cruiser Magazine did a pretty comprehensive test on several different models of these helmets and, even though the energy absorbsion, etc. was in a wide range among the brands, not a single latch or hinge failed that I can remember. Some of their tests were done several times more than the DOT requirements dictate and everything was still within spec. I had not heard of Arai making one of these. That must be new. The word I got was that they wouldn't make any helmet that wasn't SNELL approved and a SNELL flip-face would simply be way too heavy. The cool thing about the Schuberth model is an integrated, flip-up sun shield. This eliminates the need for sunglasses altogether.
Motorcycle Cruiser Magazine did a pretty comprehensive test on several different models of these helmets and, even though the energy absorbsion, etc. was in a wide range among the brands, not a single latch or hinge failed that I can remember. Some of their tests were done several times more than the DOT requirements dictate and everything was still within spec. I had not heard of Arai making one of these. That must be new. The word I got was that they wouldn't make any helmet that wasn't SNELL approved and a SNELL flip-face would simply be way too heavy. The cool thing about the Schuberth model is an integrated, flip-up sun shield. This eliminates the need for sunglasses altogether.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: mrslush50 on September 18, 2003, 01:03:39 PM
Post by: mrslush50 on September 18, 2003, 01:03:39 PM
Quote from: Delta88I don't roadrace or even speed too much...
really? that's not what the Montana Highway Patrol says. ;)
(sorry, couldn't help my self)
Title: OOO....
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 01:31:36 PM
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 01:31:36 PM
Ooooo Montana Highway Patrol...I am impressed...My friend got a $10 ticket for doing 135 on his 1100 GSXR...He said the cop was a pig...
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Moose on September 18, 2003, 01:35:27 PM
Post by: Moose on September 18, 2003, 01:35:27 PM
Wish I could manage to get a $10 ticket when I get busted speeding. :nana:
Title: MOntanabahn...
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 01:54:33 PM
Post by: The Buddha on September 18, 2003, 01:54:33 PM
Oh well its all thanks to the montanabahn...No speed limits...
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Rashad on September 18, 2003, 04:45:15 PM
Post by: Rashad on September 18, 2003, 04:45:15 PM
Quote from: Delta88After wearing out a Zeus brand flip-face helmet, I bought an HJC Symax and love it. Yes, flip-faces are somewhat of a compromise with regard to wind noise and weight. I don't find the HJC to feel any heavier than many full-faced designs but, I'm sure it would move the needle a little further. The flip-side, (get it?), is the convenience of being able to move the chinbar out of my way to drink, converse, SNEEZE. No matter how cool some of the full-faced designs look, I doubt I will ever go back to one. I don't roadrace or even speed too much, (hold your typing finger MrSlush), so the SNELL rating just isn't that important to me.
Motorcycle Cruiser Magazine did a pretty comprehensive test on several different models of these helmets and, even though the energy absorbsion, etc. was in a wide range among the brands, not a single latch or hinge failed that I can remember. Some of their tests were done several times more than the DOT requirements dictate and everything was still within spec. I had not heard of Arai making one of these. That must be new. The word I got was that they wouldn't make any helmet that wasn't SNELL approved and a SNELL flip-face would simply be way too heavy. The cool thing about the Schuberth model is an integrated, flip-up sun shield. This eliminates the need for sunglasses altogether.
Cool.. got links? pics?
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Adam Fraser on September 18, 2003, 07:18:22 PM
Post by: Adam Fraser on September 18, 2003, 07:18:22 PM
Here is a link to the Lazer/AGV one http://www.agv.com/AGV%20Collection%202003/AGV%202003%20Collection%20GT/GTO%20DETAILS.htm
They rebranded it AGV for street use. I use mine on the street and it isnt too terribly much heavier than a normal helmet. Looks like SRP is 199 which means dealers should have them for a little cheaper.
They rebranded it AGV for street use. I use mine on the street and it isnt too terribly much heavier than a normal helmet. Looks like SRP is 199 which means dealers should have them for a little cheaper.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Toenis on September 19, 2003, 07:27:26 AM
Post by: Toenis on September 19, 2003, 07:27:26 AM
I got some nice Italian design flipup:
(http://www.urbanbikes.co.uk/acatalog/Mathisse_500x336.jpg)
(http://www.urbanbikes.co.uk/acatalog/Mathisse_500x336.jpg)
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Delta88 on September 19, 2003, 07:30:51 AM
Post by: Delta88 on September 19, 2003, 07:30:51 AM
Actually, Montana does now have speed limits. Even in the daytime. It's 75 on the Interstates, 70 for cars on secondary highways in the daytime, 65 at night, 60 for trucks in daylight, 55 at night. The tickets used to be $5, then $10. Now they are $20 but you can still pay the officer on the spot and it does not go your driving record. I'm afraid 135 mph would get you much more than the $20 infraction. I happen to know this guy, yeah, that's it, a friend of mine, yeah, who was pulled over for 82 in a 65, (it was nightime on a State highway), and the Speed Tax Collector gave him a break and wrote me--I mean him up for only 10 over. This would imply that the fine would be more if he had been written up for more than 10 over. Anyway, enough of this thread hijack-
I searched the Motorcycle Cruiser website and they don't have a reprint of the article online. I will have to rummage through my skyscraper stack of old cycle mags and dig it out. My decision to purchase the HJC was largely based on the info in that article. They had interior noise levels as well as the impact test results. I was leaning toward the Schuberth on the merits of that integrated sun shield, but the HJC tested as well or better, was quieter, lighter and less than half the price, ($185 delivered from casporttouring.com). I'll repost if I find anything specific and of any help in the article.
I searched the Motorcycle Cruiser website and they don't have a reprint of the article online. I will have to rummage through my skyscraper stack of old cycle mags and dig it out. My decision to purchase the HJC was largely based on the info in that article. They had interior noise levels as well as the impact test results. I was leaning toward the Schuberth on the merits of that integrated sun shield, but the HJC tested as well or better, was quieter, lighter and less than half the price, ($185 delivered from casporttouring.com). I'll repost if I find anything specific and of any help in the article.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: Rashad on September 19, 2003, 04:06:13 PM
Post by: Rashad on September 19, 2003, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: ToenisI got some nice Italian design flipup:
Ohhh man that is soooo sweet!!!! :thumb: :thumb:
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: glenn9171 on September 20, 2003, 07:27:53 PM
Post by: glenn9171 on September 20, 2003, 07:27:53 PM
Flip-up helmets are not SNELL approved because the SNELL ratings only specify full-faced helmets in their rating rules. A flip-up helmet is not considered a full-face. Even if a flip-up helmet is tested to be as strong and safe as a regular helmet in every way, it could never get SNELL approval.
Do not think that just because it is not SNELL approved, that it is not as safe. It may or may not be. I wouldn't buy one as I have no real use for a flip-up design. Plus they are all much louder than their full-faced counterparts, even the Arai model.
Do not think that just because it is not SNELL approved, that it is not as safe. It may or may not be. I wouldn't buy one as I have no real use for a flip-up design. Plus they are all much louder than their full-faced counterparts, even the Arai model.
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: JasonB on September 20, 2003, 07:43:30 PM
Post by: JasonB on September 20, 2003, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: glenn9171Flip-up helmets are not SNELL approved because the SNELL ratings only specify full-faced helmets in their rating rules. A flip-up helmet is not considered a full-face. Even if a flip-up helmet is tested to be as strong and safe as a regular helmet in every way, it could never get SNELL approval.
Do not think that just because it is not SNELL approved, that it is not as safe. It may or may not be. I wouldn't buy one as I have no real use for a flip-up design. Plus they are all much louder than their full-faced counterparts, even the Arai model.
I do not know the full reasoning behind the flip-up helmets not getting snell rating (I'll have to search for that) but its not because its not a true fullface helmet. Snell ratings are for all helmets submitted to the Snell institute for testing. It might be that no one has submitted one (dunno why not). Also open face and even beanie helmets can be snell certified (there are open face helmets that are snell certified I have owned a few) Havent seen a beanie thats certified yet tho but I havent looked.
And for the post about shoei not doing snell helmets, 2 of thiers are only DOT approved. the St. Cruz and the Syncrotec (flip-up helmet)
Title: What helmet was that?
Post by: JasonB on September 20, 2003, 07:54:33 PM
Post by: JasonB on September 20, 2003, 07:54:33 PM
Here is the official word from snell about the flip up helmets.
Quote from: SnellWhy won't Snell certify some types of helmets like flip up front designs?
Snell does not dismiss out of hand, any helmet design that strays from the conventional. Snell does not point out any design specifications, other than general requirements in our standards. We are however, always concerned with innovations and new designs that may effect the helmet's ability to protect the wearer, or in some cases the helmets potential to cause injury. At present, the Foundation has not had the opportunity to test any of the flip up front type helmets. So far, we can not find any fault with these designs as long as they are used according to the manufacturers instructions. We will also certify any size of helmet as long as it meets the same requirements as any other Snell certified helmet.