Hey all, I started selling these electronic (e-cigarettes). they have been selling very well in my local bars as you cannot smoke in them anymore.
http://www.smokeamongus.com/
Let me know your thoughts and ideas on my page and on the product.
THAnK YOU
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REALLY weird concept.
So If you cant smoke in a var lets say, how the heck can you well ... smoke this thing. It looks an awful lot like a freaking ciggy.
Now I've been thinking about opening a "speakeasy". Maybe I'll buy and sell these in my speakeasy, awww screw it, it should be an illegal speakeasy where I'll actually allow smoking. When the cops come I'll close the curtains and roll the whole floor into a dinner theater type crap. Yea ... if it worked in 1910 it should work in 2010.
Cool.
Buddha.
They contain no tobacco, no flame, only nicotine, flavoring and a glycol sub...There is no "smoke" only a vapor (looks just like smoke). It emits no scent and is exemt from all Clean air acts... Has no seccond hand effects.. It will not cause cancer and contains no toxins or poisons.
It does look just like a Cig! When you inhale the red LED in front lights (like a cherry) and you can exhale a HUGE PLUME of "vapor".. I love em,,.. some blends taste WAY better than what you can buy in a pack. And there is no tar, poison or other BS
You could exhale it in your babys face! :icon_mrgreen: Thats how safe it is :thumb:
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Check out my site, it tells you all about it..
www.smokeamongus.com/about.html
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(http://www.ole97.com/techamongous/smoke/IMGS/SPECIAL11.gif) might wanna check teh spelling. but sounds like a pretty good idea man, but teh cost, to me is high atm, if i can figure out how to budget it in, im up for some :whisper:
certainly a DIFFERENT concept, but I like it. hopefully it'll replace those vile actual cigarettes one day.
Quote from: bobthebiker on December 30, 2008, 10:58:35 PM
certainly a DIFFERENT concept, but I like it. hopefully it'll replace those vile actual cigarettes one day.
indeed, right now cost is too high for me. i dont smoke much as it is, but atalmsot a dollar a piece. to me i cannot jsutify it. but great concept
that's pretty nifty looking, if it was a little cheaper i might try it. I have quit cigs but went back to my old staple of small pouches, they are cheaper than the gum and you use it the same way. But then again cancer is cancer but not having it in your lungs seems like a better idea to me :laugh:
They work out to cost WAY less than cigs... Each (filter) is about = to 1 pack of cigs, 5 come w/ the unit and 5 packs are gonna be $5.99 Most people I know quit cigs all together.. Hard core 1-1/2 pack smokers use 2 filters a day... Plus these make you feel better no chemicals no poison no more cancer! :icon_mrgreen:
Thats about $1.25ea for a pack of cigs worth of filters :cheers: You can also refil with drops instead, that will give you about 150 or so cigs for $15 :thumb:
Thanks for finding my errors.. I suck at spelling and Dreamweaver nor Fireworks check it :icon_mrgreen:
Most that have tried/bought them so far either LOVE them or just say ehhh... N one ever said they didnt work/taste like a cig :thumb:
Interesting. I've never heard of this before - did you come up with the concept/design yourself?
Quote from: beRto on December 31, 2008, 09:23:22 AM
Interesting. I've never heard of this before - did you come up with the concept/design yourself?
No, I wish.. The Chinese seem to have :icon_mrgreen:
Thats the only place I have been able to buy them from a manufacture. Havent found one in the US yet... probably never will :D
I see the WHO and FDA have determined these aren't beneficial for aiding smoking cessasion. I'll bet that largely depends on the individual using the product. Sitting here poisoning myself and all those around me, I'm thinking it's worth a shot.
Quote from: gearman on December 31, 2008, 02:18:23 PM
I see the WHO and FDA have determined these aren't beneficial for aiding smoking cessasion. I'll bet that largely depends on the individual using the product. Sitting here poisoning myself and all those around me, I'm thinking it's worth a shot.
Yea, these have not really been studied by the FDA because they are not required to pass FDA standards... there are no chemicals the require tem to :thumb:
If you want to try and quit or at least curb you useage... this is the product. I have had friends on Pills, patches, inhailers and more quit within 2 days of using this (like I said they still are addicted to this) but its a MUCH better option. And they have High, med, low and none to ween you off gradualy :icon_mrgreen:
FDA want 100 million to do anything. Even freaking approve vaseline. The fees and various crap is 50 million, and 50 million is to ahem ... get your product to the head of the queue, as in, like ... pay them to do their regular job.
So, FDA clowns can line up and bite me, they are just paid off in case anything comes on the market.
BTW, so it got nicotine or no ? if not, I dont see how its not regulated ?
I tell ya though, these Idiotic agencies like FDA need to be freaking shot. I hope this comming great depression sees the end of these Idiotic agencies and what not.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: scottpA_GS on December 31, 2008, 08:21:10 AM
They work out to cost WAY less than cigs... Each (filter) is about = to 1 pack of cigs, 5 come w/ the unit and 5 packs are gonna be $5.99 Most people I know quit cigs all together.. Hard core 1-1/2 pack smokers use 2 filters a day... Plus these make you feel better no chemicals no poison no more cancer! :icon_mrgreen:
Thats about $1.25ea for a pack of cigs worth of filters :cheers: You can also refil with drops instead, that will give you about 150 or so cigs for $15 :thumb:
Thanks for finding my errors.. I suck at spelling and Dreamweaver nor Fireworks check it :icon_mrgreen:
Most that have tried/bought them so far either LOVE them or just say ehhh... N one ever said they didnt work/taste like a cig :thumb:
but $50up front. most dont buy $50 worth of smokes at once. they buy one pak at a time, also im a bit leery of ingesting anything made by the chinese. noting theirswell quality control . whichis a bit of an oxymoron, considering i smoke lol
Id get one , if u shipped overseas.
Quote from: The Buddha on December 31, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
BTW, so it got nicotine or no ? if not, I dont see how its not regulated ?Buddha.
Yes they contain nicotine :thumb:
BUMP!
I have been selling the H E L L out of these at local non-smoking bars and the web.
Same question stands, what do you guys think. Anyone seen them in their area? tried one?
They work VERY WELL...
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They sell them here at the Florida Mall. And honestly they irritate the hell out of me esp how they advertise it. I'm quite concerned that these have not been studied. It is being put out that they don't have anything harmful in it. Nicotine is a drug and an overdose can paralyze the muscles inhibiting breathing or even causing a myocardial infarction, as well as confusion,and seizures. Do they even list how much nicotine are in these things? Or what age can you buy them. You sell it to a 16y/o then they are hooked on nicotine so they run out for a quick fix and end up smoking as well. It is also just as deadly to pregnant women the nicotin can be transfered to the baby and then a baby born hooked to nicotine. And the harmless vapor I couldn't read anywhere that stated what the vapor was made of!
I'm sorry but some research needs to be done on this. It seems Australia has banned it until it can find out exactly what usefullness this product has.
Mary
I looked into these a few months ago.
I don't know how the devices have passed FDA scrutiny. People tend to imbibe more often on these, especially if they scrimp on cheap cartridges without much flavoring. I've heard the apple is pretty tasty, though.
You're correct on the signs and symptoms, Mary. Neurons have nicotine receptors which, when used, affect serotonin reuptake. It interrupts the autonomic nervous system to the point that your heart loses rhythm (an infarction) and the other effects that you mentioned, in very small amounts. The nicotine uptake difference between a smoker's rush and neurotoxicity is very small, and the onset is very quick.
Normal cigarettes hurt the throat when being smoked too quickly, helping to limit uptake. However, the electronic devises don't have that effect. So, I hope a member of your staff knows CPR, Scott. Without CPR within two to eight minutes of an infarction, your heart loses shockable rhythm (meaning, even if shocked by an AED, you're facing flatline).
Other reasons I wouldn't buy one of these from you:
1) You've said that nicotine isn't carcinogenic, just to make a buck. Unethical and incorrect.
2) Nicotine will be present in exhalation, but you encourage blowing vapors into a baby's face. Toddlers and infants absorb toxins in much, much higher rates than adults, and they lack fully mature liver and kidney function. Double whammy. Potent nicotine concentration from a "frequent puffer" without the smoke particulates to inhibit uptake. And, dead babies just aren't funny, Scott.
3) You're selling the one of the cheapest models currently distributed. I've watched them in action, and the model you're selling rarely lasts a night. The particular one you're selling can be had for significantly cheaper from other suppliers. A buddy of mine went through many of the models like candy until he settled on two of the top models that were over $100 each, and even they fail frequently.
Most dangerously:
There is a tendency to enlarge the holes in the cartridges, in order to maximize nicotine inhalation. Using bare fingers.
I'm sure you're a nice guy, and I'm sure I came across as an @$$hole. :icon_rolleyes: The approach seems manipulative and rather seedy, though.
I would have left you alone if you hadn't tried to say that nicotine isn't carcinogenic.
Drunks will buy into whatever you tell them. But, here you're trying to sell a cheap, dangerous product at high prices using unrefined viral marketing in an area that I frequent. I have no authority here, but I can bug the crap out of you.
Quote from: wladziu on March 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
I looked into these a few months ago.
I don't know how the devices have passed FDA scrutiny. People tend to imbibe more often on these, especially if they scrimp on cheap cartridges without much flavoring. I've heard the apple is pretty tasty, though.
You're correct on the signs and symptoms, Mary. Neurons have nicotine receptors which, when used, affect serotonin reuptake. It interrupts the autonomic nervous system to the point that your heart loses rhythm (an infarction) and the other effects that you mentioned, in very small amounts. The nicotine uptake difference between a smoker's rush and neurotoxicity is very small, and the onset is very quick.
Normal cigarettes hurt the throat when being smoked too quickly, helping to limit uptake. However, the electronic devises don't have that effect. So, I hope a member of your staff knows CPR, Scott. Without CPR within two to eight minutes of an infarction, your heart loses shockable rhythm (meaning, even if shocked by an AED, you're facing flatline).
Other reasons I wouldn't buy one of these from you:
1) You've said that nicotine isn't carcinogenic, just to make a buck. Unethical and incorrect.
2) Nicotine will be present in exhalation, but you encourage blowing vapors into a baby's face. Toddlers and infants absorb toxins in much, much higher rates than adults, and they lack fully mature liver and kidney function. Double whammy. Potent nicotine concentration from a "frequent puffer" without the smoke particulates to inhibit uptake. And, dead babies just aren't funny, Scott.
3) You're selling the one of the cheapest models currently distributed. I've watched them in action, and the model you're selling rarely lasts a night. The particular one you're selling can be had for significantly cheaper from other suppliers. A buddy of mine went through many of the models like candy until he settled on two of the top models that were over $100 each, and even they fail frequently.
Most dangerously:
There is a tendency to enlarge the holes in the cartridges, in order to maximize nicotine inhalation. Using bare fingers.
I'm sure you're a nice guy, and I'm sure I came across as an @$$hole. :icon_rolleyes: The approach seems manipulative and rather seedy, though.
well sure wladziu youre an asshoel lol jk man, but a good point/s made
Yeah, I figured I could put it to good use.
electronic cigarettes?!!
what's next- gasoline powered mixed drinks?
Quote from: wladziu on March 02, 2009, 11:33:12 AM
Other reasons I wouldn't buy one of these from you:
1) You've said that nicotine isn't carcinogenic, just to make a buck. Unethical and incorrect.
I got that info from my distributer and I will remove it. Thank you for finding that error!!!
3) You're selling the one of the cheapest models currently distributed. I've watched them in action, and the model you're selling rarely lasts a night. The particular one you're selling can be had for significantly cheaper from other suppliers. A buddy of mine went through many of the models like candy until he settled on two of the top models that were over $100 each, and even they fail frequently.
Myself and about 80+ other beg to dissagree w/ you. I have tried over 5 diff. models and this one is THE BEST! I have only had 3 malfunction out of over 80 sold... Show me where you can buy my exact model (non wholesale for more than $5 less!
Most dangerously:
There is a tendency to enlarge the holes in the cartridges, in order to maximize nicotine inhalation. Using bare fingers.
you can also just remove the stopper in the back (even worse)
I'm sure you're a nice guy, and I'm sure I came across as an @$$hole. :icon_rolleyes: The approach seems manipulative and rather seedy, though.
You did come off as an ass, but I dont care, I can take the critisisim, thats why I asked for it... Im glad you responded! and I will correct the issues you mentioned
I am happy to see everyones reactions... from my experience these are safe (IF USED CORRECTLY!!!!) adn 100% safer than a real cigarette PERIOD!