due to "certain people" moving into neighborhoods? Really? Maybe there is racism involved? Really? It just couldn't be so damn simple that nice people in nice homes and lawns don't want uncivilized, untrainable savages running rampant, unbridled crime and generally trashing and destroying the entire neighborhoods and schools and acting like animals could it? They need a study??????? They need a fuckin' STUDY GROUP??????? I can save the taxpayers a LOT of money on this one. Hahahahahahhaah. It's just that simple.
Please read this......... http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081230/D95D896O0.html
So unbelievable and so damn tragic.........guess who's footing the bill for "certain people" to get "Government Money" each month to move into these decent homes? Guess what the neighborhood will look like in 10 years. Guess what will happen to homeowners property values having to live next door to all this Government aid puke and vomit.
Thanks Wilson, but you know what sucks is that there a two other black familys here and even they a pissed at them for being a pack of scum and acting that way.
I mean what's that say about you when your own kind hates you.
I'm experiencing the exact same ordeal. I live in a well diversified middle class neighborhood in Southern California. It was a hispanic family that was subsidized in. Next thing you know every single one of the cars on our block was broken into. Two of the kids were sent to jail for burglary, and it's not looking good for the youngest one either. Sad part is the parents are good people, but are just too damn busy making ends meet to have time to handle the kids. One of my neighbors is an officer with the City Sheriff and he make sure our block now get extra patrols. Unfortunately, there isn't anything else he could do. There's now a new wave of subsidized housing on the other side of a city park near our house, now we are seeing people passed out at the park drunk, even some drug dealing. It's gotten to the point where my wife can't walk the dog through the park anymore at night, and kids don't play there during the day. My sheriff neighbor tell me they use to send our patrol cars to the neighbor cities to help out cause there were so much down time and it keeps the officers sharp. Nowadays, they had to call in help due to the huge increase in crime in the last couple of years. The thing is, the new wave of renters are white. Race really have nothing to do with it, if you bring crime and public nuisance into a neighborhood, you're just not welcomed!!!
Quote from: flyingmachine on December 31, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
Race really have nothing to do with it, if you bring crime and public nuisance into a neighborhood, you're just not welcomed!!!
+1000000
There are certain "classes" of people (color is irrevelent) that REFUSE to have any kind of civility. You have to admit, it's an "easy path".
You get to "f%$k up" and "screw off" each and every day. They refuse to learn. They finally drop out of school. They refuse to work. They either steal from the taxpayers via "the Government" or are literally thieves, robbers, and/or crackheads. We, the taxpaying citizens, should be given liberal usage of any means necessary to protect our neighborhoods and properties and families. This sounds much akin to Vigilante-ism (because it is), but I'm afraid that is where all this is leading us. It's happening all over the planet. Governments are JAMMING diametrically opposed cultures together, at times FORCIBLY BY LAW. If you sit back and look at it from a distance..........it looks like a damn conspiracy. All the while, they preach diversity and inclusion, yet it is WE that have to live in the s h i t. Not the elitists. You won't find "these classes of people" in the elitist's neighborhoods or anywhere around them.
Quote from: cafeboy on December 31, 2008, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: flyingmachine on December 31, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
Race really have nothing to do with it, if you bring crime and public nuisance into a neighborhood, you're just not welcomed!!!
+1000000
i agree with this statement as well. in the city i lived in arkansas, there was a "section" of town. if you were a white male, you just didn't go there at night alone. i commented to a friend once driving through there. all, and i mean all, of the houses had bars on the windows. now, it was highly known that only people of a "certain" race inhabited these homes and that others generally did not venture into the neighborhood. who were they trying to protect themselves from? :dunno_white: stupidity really doensn't favor once race over another. anyone of any color can be a moron. :thumb:
i watched a stand-up thing by chris rock. talking about how not to get your ass kicked by the police. i believe he said number one was don't break the law. :thumb:
CB? Recall your other post as to where I mentioned that "house" (if you could call it that) with not a blade of grass growing, a couch on the packed dirt front yard and non-running mowers, vehicles, and kids toys piled high? Well, there are coloreds (Blacks/Negroes), Mexicans (Latinos), and a White Trash piece of dung (Caucasian) ALL living and hanging out there. I'm beginning to think it's a "crack house". I feel for the children but this a perfect instance where " Vigilantes" (all the neighbors--no matter what color) "show up at their door" and give them an ultimatum and a warning, then "take whatever action necessary" after "time is up".
I argee 100%
If the cops wont do it.
Quote from: cafeboy on December 31, 2008, 11:34:48 AM
Thanks Wilson, but you know what sucks is that there a two other black familys here and even they a pissed at them for being a pack of scum and acting that way.
I mean what's that say about you when your own kind hates you.
Yea either side of me is black people. One is a single mom (husband left the country cos he was on a visa) and another is an old classy lady who died 2 weeks ago. Great - both of them. But then I am the one that the neighborhood is scared off.
Cool.
Buddha.
Edited for being politically incorrect and offensive.
this thread is sad. :(
when your surroundings change in a way that doesn't suit you, change your surroundings.
that is all.
edited for political incorrectness and offensiveness.
Quote from: Revere2 on December 31, 2008, 06:52:07 PM
ohgood..............one CAN'T "keep moving"...................you have to "make a stand".............one has to decide what one will NOT accept.
I agree it's tough, but you've spoonfed a lot of s h i t over the last 45 years.
Are we talking principle, ability, or means ?
Principle gets confused with madness and short sight.
Ability is cut and dry.
Means can be relative. "Car poor", "House poor" and "Jewelry slaves" come to mind.
I'd like to think my family would camp in a tent wayyyyy deep in the woods before we'd suffer a subsidized housing project becoming our neighbors. Hopefully we'll never encounter it, but have watched as areas degraded. It's sad, and scary to think of the back yard that was "familiar and still" is now "dark and insecure".
If you have to make a stand (or choose to), please do sweep up, grin, and bear it.
Quote from: ohgood on December 31, 2008, 08:26:31 PM
the back yard that was "familiar and still" is now "dark and insecure"
astute
A few years back my neighborhood was flooded with Assylum seekers, mainly Eastern European Romanies, Albanians claiming that they were dispaced Kosovans and all sorts from the Middle east, even French speaking africans, I could not get my head round the latter, i would have thought france was a better option. Amongst these there were doubtless some if not many genuine refugees. There was a heightening of tension, more trouble, much more litter and garbage on the streets. This was not racial but it was portrayed as racial by the nation press, most of the people who would not "fit in" were white europeans but "scum" was probably a fair description for many of them. A lot of them had been "encouraged" to leave home and head west in search of a welfare benefits system often by there own governments, particularly Slovakia and Romania. No mystery there they kicked them out because they did not want them because they were anti social scumbags in their own countries.
There are still quite a few here but less concentrated now and some are being absorbed into a new life and culture others I'm afraid seem set on doing sod all and working the benefits system.
Moral. Every society has scumbags but when you start shifting them around and inserting them into other neighborhoods or cultures you get trouble 'cos they don't change, some people remain anti-social tossers wherever they are.
Revere...the city can force them to remove or repair anything on their property that can be considered a hazard or a deduction of the value of your neighbor's properties. shaZam!, I get a ticket every time I clean my garage.
It's all stupid. This whole thread has been "they screw us they screw us they screw us" but the problem isn't just them. As with EVERYTHING within our known existence, nothing is alone. Our society, as it stands, required scum to make a public appearance and for the rest of us to tolerate it...and we did. By and large, we tolerate it. If we all stood up and said that classic line, "we're not going to take it anymore", and actually put a stop to it, it would go away and a new sect of society would become an issue...but maybe the next one will be more physically dangerous, maybe it won't. It's a gamble.
But that'd be hard. I think I'll just tolerate it.
the city forced my neighbor on one side to knock his house down. it had long been degrading. he had plans to fix it. city sent him a notice: fix it in 60 days, knock it down, or we will knock it down and charge you for it. he chose to knock it down. now there is a vacant lot next to my home. it's a corner lot, if i had the cash, i'd buy it up and put myself a garage on it. bottom line though, the city can do what they want to and say it's in the "neighborhoods" best intrest.
yup welocme to people controlling things. ive got a guest house which essentially sits empty, but i gotta keep power up, and water as well. or i get hassled
Quote from: Revere2 on December 31, 2008, 06:32:35 PM
except for the "blacks". True, we used violence to quell them and their antics. Extremely HARSH violence. But then again..........they are very violent people wherever they reside and require such. As you see today, they still are extremely violent but the latitude we, as citizens, shrinks. We are going to have to bring back the Vigilantes.
Quote from: Revere2 on December 31, 2008, 06:52:07 PM
ohgood..............one CAN'T "keep moving"...................you have to "make a stand".............one has to decide what one will NOT accept.
I agree it's tough, but you've spoonfed a lot of s h i t over the last 45 years.
this is white power propaganda and very offensive material.
I don't want to offend anyone here. and these types of issues and discussions are important to focus on. but be warned, the language is white power propaganda. reading these two posts gives me the chills. this is a dangerous line of thinking.
dChrist, I am offended but................in the "spirit of the New Year"...............I have edited my posts so that your Bostonian peepers may have relief. I hope you finish/finished Valedictorian at Boston Spine Removal University.
It may disturb you that Revere takes stereotypes seriously, but keep in mind that stereotypes are there because they are most often true. There's a line between accepting a stereotype and racism...you don't cross that line until you believe the stereotype applies 100% of the time.
It's not hard to argue with statistics, and many people do, but it not possible to justify the argument.
Quote from: Revere2 on January 02, 2009, 01:23:46 PM
dChrist, I am offended but................in the "spirit of the New Year"...............I have edited my posts so that your Bostonian peepers may have relief. I hope you finish/finished Valedictorian at Boston Spine Removal University.
thanks Revere2. i wasn't so much looking for removal of the material although I always welcome judicious self censorship. I am sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to imply that you were purposefully propagating white power literature. and now reading my response I admit I was not clear in that. I don't know you so can't make any assumptions. its just that the tenor of your posts had striking resemblances to well known tactics. To write about resorting to "harsh" vigilante violence against African Americans justified by either police inactivity or a perception of their culture as inherently violent is deeply disturbing to say the least.
I urge you and anyone else reading this who may be dealing with the kind of community issues described herein to find a more constructive not to mention legal outlet for finding resolution.
Best regards,
d
Quote from: dchrist on January 02, 2009, 01:58:46 PM
African Americans
I just wish every one would just STOP using this term.
If you are an american then that's it not african, indian, asian, mexican, and what not.
If you are an american then stand up and be proud and say I AM AN AMERICAN and that's it.
I am not a french, irish, cherokee american.
I am a AMERICAN.
All this other crap just devides us even more.
100% with you, cafeboy. That shaZam! really, really pisses me off. You can be proud of your heritage, but you are NOT your heritage.
I've often wondered why Americans do that, Irish American, Italian American and so on, it seems to be an American Phenomina as far as I am aware other "young" countries like Australia don't do it.
On my last longish ride I stayed a couple of nights in the Alsace which is part of France but mainly German speaking but the locals that I spoke to regarded themselves as 100% French. In some places like the German speaking part of the Italian Tyrol that was Austria untill the 1914-18 war the language is a bit divisive and an excuse for nationalism/seperatism but none of this applies to the US.
So why does it happen then? African American? Irish American? Funny thing is I've never heard anyone refer to German American or British American and I believe that they were the two largest groups to populate the "new world" - well the North of it anyway.
funny thing is "african american is basically the only one which covers an ENTIRE continent. ask one which country they are from err can trace their ancestry to. most say africa :dunno_white:
Stanger and stranger, so do the rest of you call yourselves Euro-American, Asian-American ? no I don't think so. I can see why, say, the Kennedy clan, traded on the Irish-American thing when it was a vote winner around Boston but surely things have moved on and the sub-division should be redundant by now especially with no major linguistic division within the U.S.
Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with being proud of your ancestry and background (even if it is romantically fictionalised) but wearing it as a badge of identity mystifies me unless it is part of a seperatist agenda perhaps. Oh well another of life's little mysteries to figure. :icon_confused:
Cal, it's because a few decades ago we had this thing come up called "affirmative action". It was a good thing when it was made...like unions, Democrats, U2, and vanilla cream soda. Unfortunately, all good things, in the hands of a relative few, will be used for evil. A small few of them took the power presented and twisted it to speak not that they were equal to all men, but better, and that the rest owed them great things for their history. They ignore the fact that we all descend from a people once enslaved and prejudiced. My wife and I both are of Aryan decent...a people typically viewed as being at the forefront of racial bias and hate...yet even we were slaves at one time.
It's all ridiculous and goes back to my idea that United States citizens, as a people, tolerate far to much. I believe much the same could be said about the whole world. People are rebellious by nature, vengeful by spirit, and hateful by life. Eventually there's going to be a time when a great portion of the populace stands up and says "We're not going to take this sh!t anymore," and the days following will be a little scary.
Ahhhh, slavery, I've realy got a chip about that, Bloody Vikings, Bloody Romans the crispbread governments and the italians should appologise...........
Don't get me started on that damned "Kennedy Klan". Old Joe Kennedy was a damn slum lord/bootlegger. He made sure his children and grandchildren benefited from it. From that he made sure they went to the finest schools "and passed". Being Catholic, he never could break into the highest ranks of the elitists "at the time" including the House of Astor, Morgan, Rockefeller, Rothchild,and such. Whenever I see "his son", Teddy................on the "TV"............with a #2 pencil high in the air lambasting some unseen powers of racism and wealth, I have to remind myself that HE and HIS FAMILY are part of it ALL that have brought us to our rotten fruition and want to slap him until he loses all bladder and bowel function, knowing that he has a "$300 Mont Blanc mechanical pencil" inside his $1000 suit with his $1000 alligator shoes, that sorry worthless scum. He KNOWS what "the South" thinks of him.
p.s. and I forgot to add........"Old Joe" was a damned whoremonger as well, truly a legend, that lived on through his rich, brain dead children as well.............which reminds me of a song..... BTW............speaking of whoremongers and powerbrokers........
Has anybody here..........seen my old friend John..........can you tell me where he's gone.......
may they all rot in the depths of Sheol for what they've done to the working citizenry
Isn't this a nice slice of Americana?
Why don't we just sticky this, so all newcomers can see what a nice community we have here?
All of humanity's idiocy summed up in a single tidy thread.
Quote from: Revere2 on January 03, 2009, 06:22:04 PM
p.s. and I forgot to add........"Old Joe" was a damned whoremonger as well, truly a legend, that lived on through his rich, brain dead children as well.............which reminds me of a song..... BTW............speaking of whoremongers and powerbrokers........
Has anybody here..........seen my old friend John..........can you tell me where he's gone.......
may they all rot in the depths of Sheol for what they've done to the working citizenry
didnt one of the kennedys in power get away with murder or was that someone else?