so i'm thinking that since i've been laid off, maybe it's time for a change of pace, something different. but something that pays substantially better than the $18/hour i was making as a cnc machinist. i've checked out alot of websites/search engines etc for jobs in my field and most all of them want someone with 3-5 years experience or a degree of some sort. (i've got roughly 19 months cnc machinist experience). so i'm thinking that if i have to get a degree to advance myself, i should get one that will make me a damn fine living. i'm open to suggestions. :dunno_white:
JD, it's the lazy/greedy mans doctorate :dunno_white:
JD?? :dunno_white:
oh, and i can rule out any type of military service. i'm young and fit enough, just too deaf. :icon_mrgreen:
juris doctor ...... lol...google is my friend. anyhow. seems i need a bachelors first. :dunno_white: hmm...okay...let me clarify...i have no degree, of any type, in any field, but i feel i'm intelligent enough to learn anything. :thumb:
Airport, airside operations.
If i wasn't an air traffic controller id do that.
Depends on your age I'd say. As well as where you really want to live.
No sense getting an MBA in finance and wanting to live in Boone NC. Or if you're 90yrs old.
Otherwise I suggest some financial BS, those Idiots make $ both ways. First fuelling the bubble and then by deflating the bubble and getting bailout.
Extra regulation = extra programmers with financial crap to make the banks comply with the new rules. And then financial planners who can by pass that BS.
Cool.
Buddha.
i'm 27, will be 28 in october. :thumb:
i spoke to a lady from kaplan university online. bachelor of science in information technology. i think i'd like to be a computer software engineer. or something similar. computer jobs seem to pay the best and the field seems to be expanding. i haven't done the financial aid stuff yet as i've run into a small snag with course requirements. i would have to upgrade my operating system to windows xp pro and would also have to install microsoft office 2007 professional. roughly 600 bucks in software i'd need to take the course. we'll see what happens. i may put it on hold for a while until i can get the software updates. :dunno_white: will keep you guys informed. :thumb:
Free trials are your friends :)
true, but most free trials only last for 60 days or so. :dunno_white:
Check microsoft i know some they have last up to 6months ive used em for schoolwork ;)
Thanks for the tip. :thumb:
I've been thinking of becoming a Gynocologist.
Lmao :laugh:
If you are a student, Academic Pricing is your most excellent friend. Check out places like:
http://www.academicsuperstore.com (http://www.academicsuperstore.com)
You would not be able to purchase until you had an ID (you have to copy the ID to get the price), but most places give the ID when you register.
OR, buy a used computer with XP Pro already on it and buy Office 2007 (academic) for small $$$.
well said tg
Quote from: jserio on January 14, 2009, 08:17:51 PM
i spoke to a lady from kaplan university online. bachelor of science in information technology. i think i'd like to be a computer software engineer. or something similar. computer jobs seem to pay the best and the field seems to be expanding. i haven't done the financial aid stuff yet as i've run into a small snag with course requirements. i would have to upgrade my operating system to windows xp pro and would also have to install microsoft office 2007 professional. roughly 600 bucks in software i'd need to take the course. we'll see what happens. i may put it on hold for a while until i can get the software updates. :dunno_white: will keep you guys informed. :thumb:
I got XP pro for student usage for an academic license fee of $35 if I remember right. Wound up no tneeding it because VB.Net ran fine on my Vista box at home.
You need to see if Kaplan is a MSDN educational partner, I got VB.NET 2003 and 2005 for free when I was taking my C language course. Microsft office 2007 on a student license for the core essentials is like $120. I bought the blown office pro 2007 for $275 when it was a $600 package.
In 1991 I graduated with a bachelors in civil engineering. I worked in a factory in Pennsylvania from Feb 92 to Jan 93 cos the Idiot that hired us out of college (talk about ruining my life, I had a great job in India) thought engineers need to do manual labor. Nice trick eh. I was, and still am a weakling, comming from a long line of mathematicians and accountants and lawyers my dad was the first engineer on my dad's side and my grandpa was the first engineer on that side. The rest all are bean counters. So essentially blue collar work was a disaster for me.
Anyway ... I decided I should be a software engineer Jan 93. I read up everything on programming and in 93 April I got my first job as a software engineer. That was it, I did pretty well at what I would only classify as a pretty tough job. Ironically 18 months later I decided I had had enough and quit and found another job. Essentially I went away from Unix application support then only to drift back and forth with it, finally landing square back in Unix app support ~2002 only to never look back.
In 1993 I supported Unix applications for citi bank.
In 2003 I was doing almost that same thing for B of A, after which wachovia, JP Morgan.
I dont have anything agaist getting a degree but I suggest you think outside the box.
The biggest trouble with my career was the fact that I didn't have a green card through 01.
Otherwise Software engineering is easy. Its almost too easy for people who have a certain mental make up. And chicks loooooooove geeks. Yea ... they're the best.
I'd just say that getting a degree in it is over rated. You may get a better marketability - maybe. But learing it your self and having a practice session etc etc with a computer is far more useful.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on January 15, 2009, 11:46:09 AM
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I'd just say that getting a degree in it is over rated. You may get a better marketability - maybe. But learing it your self and having a practice session etc etc with a computer is far more useful.
Cool.
Buddha.
+1.
That's exactly what I think, by looking at what's happening to the occupation market here (not strictly related to the current economic downturn). Different countries, different realities - probably - , but the same principle applies IMHO.
BTW, best of luck to the OP in finding a new career opportunity as soon as possible. :cheers:
I would go w/ a degreee that interests you. If you are into computers now go co0mputer. You have 18 mo machine? why not get an accociates from a local community college for Shop Sciences or leadership? something that an take you to the next level within the feild you already know? Forestry, Ice Cream making... Yea Ice Cream BS.. (Go Penn State!). It doesent matter much come job time what kind of BS you have, just so you have one... an easy to obtain and widely used is criminology... That degree can be applied to most any job market...
I have a BS in Computer Science and have been hired for jobs that have nothing to do w/ computers.. But required a different degree..
spoke to a guy from university of phoenix. he recommended the associates course first, said it would help get my foot in the door with companies in that field. then can continue on to get bachelors. he said as long as i've got windows xp i should be fine. i would need the microsoft office but they give you a free trial and once you're student he said i could get it for $59. i dunno. not sure what exactly to do at this point. i'm at a cross roads i think. :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo:
i just took a career assessment profile test for an insurance company. they are looking for sales reps. :dunno_white: would be different. i've never sold insurance or had any type of commissioned position before. my wife thinks i'd make a good salesman. :dunno_white: guess we'll see what happens.
Be very careful with the on-line degrees and local "universities" many of them do not transfer credits to accredited colleges. We had a big problem here with Florida Metropolitan University they were not disclosing this and people got their "associates" to find out they could not transfer to UCF so it was worthless. Now FMU is Everest University they must disclose this information to you! I believ ITT tec, Devry also have very "limited" aka "no transferability" of credits.
Try a community college. I went to Valencia Community College and they have tons of on-line and telecourses in case you are working full-time!
Mary
And places like University of Phoenix are EXPENSIVE!!! A friend just got an associates from there and landed a State Job before graduation... So Univ of Phx is a good school.
+1 to comunity college.. Also check your state college for Online courses... Here in PA you can get a Penn State degree 100% ONLINE!
i've not committed myself to a specific college or degree. apparently since i've been laid off the state is willing to help me go back to school. their theory is the better money i make, the more i pay in taxes. so that being said, i've got an orientation/skills assessment test on the 9th. they want to know what i do well in and that will narrow down some career/college choices for me. and the lady at jobs and family services said if i'm attending college for a state approved program, i am not required to actively search for employment. not sure how that will help my bills seeing as my unemployment is only schedualed for a couple months i thnk. but i'll keep you all posted on any new developements.
have not heard back yet from the insurance guy. i suppose he'll get with me monday if my employment assessment test went in a positive manner for them. :dunno_white:
I don't know about UoP check this out.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q5=University%20Of%20Phoenix,%20Online&q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&Search=Search
Mary
Im loking at an interior design school. i searched teh accreditation of those. and one was an online school. tbh not many recognised are within teh state of tn atm, so online atm is my only option
Quote from: jserio on January 24, 2009, 11:17:02 AM
i just took a career assessment profile test for an insurance company. they are looking for sales reps. :dunno_white: would be different. i've never sold insurance or had any type of commissioned position before. my wife thinks i'd make a good salesman. :dunno_white: guess we'll see what happens.
the wife is supportive, cool. the insurance racket will run you like a dog. looooong days, lots of hoops to jump through, etc
do the degree thinger. bigger and better payoff.
oh, i still plan to get a degree. i'm just trying to stay "active" in my employment search ya know. i just wish the 9th would hurry up and get here. i'm anxious to see what kind of options are available. it may sound lazy to say this but i want a degree that will allow me to make the most money possible with the least work required. :icon_mrgreen: oh, i'm not afraid to work, i just really, really want to get off the shop floor. my hearing is bad enough. i can't afford to go completely deaf because of they type of work i do. and i want a secure feeling with my job. i mean, really secure. even the shop type jobs i've seen open in my area want a degree. of course, they're all engineer type jobs. there is a benefit to me waiting and doing this test for the state on the 9th. they'll send me to a local college. i'm going to be looking at each of them closely and see who offers what types of courses/degree programs.
anyone else used that ripoffreport.com website mary posted? how reliable would you guys say that info is?
Ive known those who have used u of phoenix. and yes tehy area bit pricey. but have gotten good jobs with it. granted many of these schools are not transferrable ( credits). but afaik tehy are required to tell you this. so ask MANY questions
BYU is a fully accredited University, has a huge selection of online courses and is comparable in pricing to UoP.
yeah they are a great school. maybe for jserio. it wont work for me though. teh courses/major i seek are not available
It's a good place to get your core classes out of the way. I got 12 hours of boring shaZam! classes done through them in a month and a half so I could focus on major specific classes at my University.
im quite sure of that. but as im sayin maybe for jserio. but the classes i need to take are available elsewhere all in one place. but not byu unfortunately