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Title: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 08:14:55 AM
It took a week or so, but when you are working in the backyard...I went the cheap route and glassed the tank and bondoed, all the paint and materials cost me around $110.  It isn't perfect but painting in the backyard at night with a flood light isn't ideal...but who can tell at 100 mph  :)   Monday I have a 15t f/45r sprocket coming and a new chain, along with new grips.  I still have t touch up all the faded plastic, and Idefinately need to do something with the faded gauges.  I also need to get a new seat cover, but hey!



When I bought it after the clubman bars...
(http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/Fharakin/DSC02958.jpg)

Now after 3 coats of midnight blue metallic, 2 coats of clear and 4 drams of Ghost Fire flake from House of Color

(http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/Fharakin/DSC03109.jpg)

Full album here:   http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/Fharakin/ (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/Fharakin/)


Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Majorhavoc on March 06, 2009, 08:38:44 AM
Sweet!  Painting the instrument gauges is a nice touch.

Is that a bondo job on the gas tank or did you manage to remove that dent?

Any plans for your 'screaming yellow' rear wheel?
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: joshr08 on March 06, 2009, 08:41:57 AM
i like the yellow just looking at it makes me happy.
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 09:14:45 AM
All the dents are gone...what you see is a reflection of the shed, the 6ft high brick wall, and me taking the picture!  The tank actually looks brand new.  Check out the full album.

I am tossed on the yellow wheel...I like it somedays and not the next...I might try to match the color with some stickers
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: utgunslinger13 on March 06, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
meh, I think the paint is in the eye of the beholder but the work looks top notch!  I personally wouldn't have my bike that color, but I would LOVE to have you do any body work I'd need done lol

Good job and keep it up!
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: xncnc on March 06, 2009, 09:35:00 AM
http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss288/Fharakin/?action=view&current=DSC03107.jpg

At that point the bike looked awesome, the flakes on the other hand  :dunno_white:

Anyway, Im going to bug you for a detailed description of your painting process, I bought another gs500 so ill have 2 bikes that need paint in the next few months.

What paint did you use? primer? process? what color for frame? details!
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Green on March 06, 2009, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: xncnc on March 06, 2009, 09:35:00 AM
At that point the bike looked awesome, the flakes on the other hand  :dunno_white:

I think that's just a photography issue.  One with flash is picking up flakes, one w/out flash is probably closer to what it looks like.  From the image info, it looks like the photos were taken a minute apart.
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 10:07:52 AM
It took me about an hour to pick the paint...I kept going back and forth between black and that blue.  I finally decided on blue because I thought it would look better with that damn yellow wheel  :) .  I wanted something to make it stand out, hence the flakes.  When you are using a 2 stage cheap paint it is very hard to add depth without a ton of work...I was going simple and cheap for this paint job.

Paint: 4th Dimension   Color code: 50413  Flake:  Ghost Fire (Silver, Green, Red depending on the angle)
Paint was $16.50 for a pint, Flake was $13 for waaay more than I used....you have to buy it in 6 oz cups and I used maybe 3 tablespoons. (So if you all want some of that flake, lol, let me know)

Everything at the paint store was $63--paint, reducer, hardener, flake, measuring cups,  etc.

The process:  If you look at the album the tank had a oh my goodness ton of dents in it and we figured it would be more cost effective to pull, fiberglass, and bondo than a new tank or having Buhdda do it.

We used a dent puller hooked to the gas cap screw holes (and a torch) to pop the top dent out.  All the big dents got filled with fiberglass (strength as a filler and in the heat out here I thought too much Bondo would crack), then we bondoed for a final countour.

Sanded it down and used sandable primer on the tank.

For the side plastic, we had to glass a couple cracks, spot filled the gouges(!) sanded, then used a flexible primer for the plastic.

My Uncle and I are great backyard mechanics...he is awesome at glass/bondo, and metalwork...I am better at finishing touches like holding the lights.

We used a regular touch up gun attached to a 5hp compressor with a stock nozzle (we wanted it to be thick as thieves for the base coat since the cheap paint)  We laid 3 coats of base down with 10 minutes of set up between them, let the last coat air for 2.5 hours, hit with 1500 grit sand paper, washed it off, let it sit in the sun for an hour, used a blow dryer to make sure there was no water on it all.

For the clear we used 1 tbl spoon of flake per 8oz of clear, same gun (nozzle was large enough to get the flake out, flake was .08) and put 2 coats with 15 min between them.  Hit it with 1500 grit, washed it down, blow dryer, then a final coat of clear at 1 am, let it set up overnight.

It isn't perfect but all the dents and body nicks are gone...the painting was hard using a led flood light in the dark, so when I painted the gauge cans the paint  is light in some spots, etc.  But for a backyard in AZ I think we did a great job.

I also polished the frame and hit it with color matching frame paint I found online for $3 a can.  I didn't like the look of polished aluminum with that color.

So $63 for paint crap, $3 frame paint, $30 for fiberglass, $15 for bondo, $10 sandpaper, and some lost sleep.
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: Green on March 06, 2009, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: xncnc on March 06, 2009, 09:35:00 AM
At that point the bike looked awesome, the flakes on the other hand  :dunno_white:

I think that's just a photography issue.  One with flash is picking up flakes, one w/out flash is probably closer to what it looks like.  From the image info, it looks like the photos were taken a minute apart.

Yeah we had a hard time because of the flakes, they are color changing red/silver/green so depending on the light you have a different look.  And it was cloudy in AZ go figure
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: utgunslinger13 on March 06, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
Cloudy? Yeah that doesn't happen often! lol
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 11:16:18 AM
It's cloudy because my girl is finally flying in from Chicago....bad weather follows her.
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: utgunslinger13 on March 06, 2009, 11:31:06 AM
Then tell her to leave!  I'm going to the indians spring training game tomorrow and I want to get a tan! lol
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: joshr08 on March 06, 2009, 11:32:41 AM
lol no wonder its nice there in michigan today
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: bill14224 on March 06, 2009, 04:22:28 PM
Nice job resurrecting a ratty bike!  I like the yellow wheel, (can you guess why?) but I think it'll look better if both wheels were the same color.  For the seat, may I suggest www.knoplace.com?  If you want to go cheap they can just re-cover it for $40, or I would recommend memory foam and multi-viscous, dry polymer pads.  My ass is still thanking me!  :thumb:  They have the lowest prices anywhere.

After that, I'd axe the stock rectangular mirror, don't like 'em.. besides, if you go with one mirror it should be the left one!

I also have a question.  How does a tank get THAT DENTED??  :technical:
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: pronator on March 06, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
Nice job!  :cheers:

Did you just paint the frame without dismantling the bike? Just covered up all relevant parts with paper/tape? If so, you've just inspired me, my friend!  :thumb:
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: LOUiE on March 06, 2009, 05:05:28 PM
those aren't the stock bars are they?  they're kinda edgy and cool.
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: ohgood on March 06, 2009, 05:22:01 PM
rat bike ? hardly, LOOK AT THE SUBFRAME, shock, and swing arm ! it's clean as heck !

nice ride man, i really dont understand why, but i like the hot yellow wheel. rock on !
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: fred on March 06, 2009, 05:27:58 PM
Very nice looking bike!
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 05:38:36 PM
The bars are Clubman style..under $30..I like em for the highway, but man they kill my wrists around town.

I taped and papered for the frame paint...I wasn't about to start a tear down ( I am sure I would find more stuff to put money into), its so nice out to ride.

I stripped the frame with a non metal paint and rust stripper wheel from Autozone and a drill.  Make sure you go the same way all the way around....you can do circles (for the brushed look) or like I did and use the edge for a one way grain.

I'll check out the suggestion for the seat, thanks!

That damn wheel...What do you guys think about adding a yellow stripe with rim tape to the front to match?
Oh, and my Uncle really wants to Airbrush the tank.....he might do it without me knowing that bastard...he really wants skulls
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: pronator on March 06, 2009, 05:47:02 PM
Thanks for that info on the stripping and painting the frame. I guess I should start checking around for a "non metal paint and rust stripper wheel."

I'm all for upgrading the comfort of your seat, but if you just want something quick and easy, you can just get some marine grade vinyl at a fabric store and recover it.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=46591.0  (Reply #11)

I did mine based on this how to:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=39184.0

and more info:

http://www.itrocks.com/motorcycles/gel_seat.htm

Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 06, 2009, 08:41:53 PM
let me clarify a little...the wheel itself is not metal, its some wierd sort of hard sponge looking thing.  clarity!
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: theUBS on March 06, 2009, 10:18:26 PM
Awesome appearance to your body work!  ...though I'm guessing you have nearly half of a gallon less fuel capacity...  :laugh:   Anyway, way to get it looking good on the cheap!   :woohoo:   I do sort of like the color too, but that yellow wheel would drive me right out of my mind!
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 07, 2009, 12:49:12 AM
SInce I used to drive a 87 F150 with a 460 HO, with a Holley gas thumper on it...the 40+mpg I get now is a dream.  I really dont care about the price of gas when I only fill up every week  :)

Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: theUBS on March 07, 2009, 01:39:31 PM
Ah yes, the old 460!  We used to have one of those in our old van we used to pull our camper back in the 80's.  10 MPG was seen as spectacular--8 MPG meant we were towing, even at 70 MPH uphill!   :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: The $600 98 GS......before I worked my magic...and after!
Post by: Farakin on March 07, 2009, 03:20:22 PM
well after headers and 3" pipe all the way back 8 was a happy day!