I just installed LED turn signals on the front and when i turn them on the just stay lit... Is the circuit so fast that it doesn't flash? do i need a relay to slow it down??? Thx
You will want to got to an autoparts store and buy a car relay. I had the same issue went to autozone got a really with the same pin pattern and whalla fixed my issue. and it will for you.
You need Electronic Flasher Unit which isn't load dependable and is suitable for LEDs
Your problem is with there being too much current going through the standard flash regulator. Buy a set of resistors for the led lights and it should remove the problem. I had to do this with my LED indicators.
Resistors are redundant and waste energy , better solution is Electronic flasher which doesn't need to sense resistance ,LEDs not only brighter
but they're also more efficient and reduce overall wattage consumption ( for anyone who cares about that :icon_razz: )
make sure you get an electronic flasher and not a mechanical one. you can find them at most car parts stores for <$10.
just take my stock one and try to match the pins??
Yes. Just find one that will match the plugs. I know it sounds funny but yes. The stock one is square and black and I found a round one that fit and works perfect. I'm suprised it worked so easily myself.
I went to Autozone today looking for my relay... I wasn't gonna ask for help but they were standing around bugging me... The original guy wasn't too helpful and was about to give up when the manager said he had something that would work and I just plugged it in and it works awesome!!! thanx for the help guys
Do you have a part number for it?
it's this one...
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Flashers-Tridon-(Novida-Tech--Inc)_5081289-P_121_R|GRPLAMPAMS____ (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Flashers-Tridon-(Novida-Tech--Inc)_5081289-P_121_R%7CGRPLAMPAMS____)
(http://www.midwayautosupply.com/images/PRODUCT/large/TRI-EL12.jpg)
I have read several threads about converting to led signals and most seem to involve 1 or more resistors to get it to work properly.
I think I remember reading that you need a load balancer or something too?
Am I understanding you correctly that all you did was install led signals and switch out the relay and everything worked?
Quote from: dohabee on March 30, 2009, 09:24:06 AM
I have read several threads about converting to led signals and most seem to involve 1 or more resistors to get it to work properly.
I think I remember reading that you need a load balancer or something too?
If you get LED signals to save energy, then load resistors and load balancers are the wrong way to go: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=46823.msg525505
However, if you get them because of their long life/looks, then feel free to add the high wattage resistors.
From what I have found in my installation of LEDs was that the first two went in no changes needed. Second set didn't create enough resistance so I had to do the load balancer, resistor, and diode for the indicator light.
But, if the rear is say stock and front led or vice versa you don't really need more than the resistor.
Hope that helps. The led stuff was about as clear as mud for me! Took forever to get everything just right but now it's done I love 'em!
Mary
it was my understanding that the electronic flasher (vs the mechanical version) solved all those problems and negated the need for all the resistors, balancers, etc.
It didn't for me. That was the first thing I bought. then the load balancer. Then to finish the diode. I took about a month for me to get through all of that to get everything perfect. It was just weird for me.
Maybe I'm just a complete screwup. that could be possible too.
Mary
It worked with just the relay for me so far... but I have yet to hook up the turn signal part of the Clear alternatives integrated tailight
ah, I think from what i have read the brake light will work as a direct swap for led's but it is only the signals that need all that other junk to work properly.
If you are able to get led turn signals to work by only changing the relay I'll definitely get some myself.
I installed LED front and rears on my GS recently. After doing so, i got no flash at all (like 2 bulbs are out). I wired in a load equalizer for low power draw leds. Hooray for 4-way flashers. After adding a diode between the indicator light and the signals i now have working signals, indicator and they flash at stock speed. It's kinda screwed up.. boost the power then cut the power.
i got everything from denniskirk.com
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp;jsessionid=FP5PJFCIPKKE5LA0WTVSM4VMDK0NCIV0?store=Main&skuId=211239
that's the diode kit. comes with instructions and took about 10 minutes to install
i got the load equalizer from my local dealership. i think it was between 12-15$. denniskirk and many other websites sell these parts. they might also be available at your local dealership.
i read a lot of threads about relays and resistors and in the end found that the way i went was the way the dealer would have gone if i had paid them to do the install.
good luck and i hope i was some help
QuoteAfter adding a diode between the indicator light and the signals i now have working signals, indicator and they flash at stock speed
can you be more specific... do you mean you have on load equalizer in the signal indicator on the dash?
i have the same issue, and seeing as I installed everything at the end of last season, I just wired in the stock rear signals and packed 'em under the seat to get me through until spring when its warm enough to figure out whats happening. :o
I had to use this diode kit: http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/16/scID/114/IMID/719 to get my turn signal indicator lamp to function.
I also had to use this balancer kit too: http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/16/scID/114/IMID/718 I installed it to the back lights and that allowed them to blink. Before that all they would do is just turn on,
I had to use the relay that was previously shown to not all flash at once.
Hope this makes the muddy water a little better!
Mary
well i hooked up one side of the tailight turn signal and it works fine but hook both up and it sounds like i'll need the diode kit... where exactly did you install the diode kit at on the bike??
The diode kit is installed to the turn signal indicator. So, you gotta take the gauge apart to get to it. I hated that part! Broke the bulb getting it out then realized I actually didn't need to do that! LOL.
Also, open up the pdf on the kuryakurin website and gives a good description on install.
Hope that helps.
Mary
well i'll order the diode kit tomorrow at work... the CA clear tailight looks good i like it and the LED brake light is bright
You can probably get them at any bike shop that is near to you. That is what I did. Saved time and a little money
Mary
I ordered one through my work... Kuryakn is only one that carries not any of my aftermarket place but I don't mind waiting...I'm patient
Quote from: Infinite Dimentia on March 30, 2009, 11:11:16 PM
QuoteAfter adding a diode between the indicator light and the signals i now have working signals, indicator and they flash at stock speed
can you be more specific... do you mean you have on load equalizer in the signal indicator on the dash?
i have the same issue, and seeing as I installed everything at the end of last season, I just wired in the stock rear signals and packed 'em under the seat to get me through until spring when its warm enough to figure out whats happening. :o
I wired the load equalizer in to the left and right rear flashers as per the instructions that came with the part. that gave me 4-ways. the diode wires in between the indicator light and the signals. fixed the 4-way problem..
hope that clears things up a little
I have an integrated led tail-signals, and short stalk regular fronts. I used a automotive flasher like the one shown above, and it worked fine, no wiring anything else up, no wiring to screw up on. so easy my 5 year old could've done it for me.
If I understand you correctly you still have a pair of regular filament signals right? Those provide just enough resistance to keep everything going. That is what happened when I first installed the front signals. then installing back ones is where i ran into to all of the fun!
Hope that helps some!
Mary
yea only 2 led signals will be fine with just the flasher.... but all 4 and it becomes a problem...
oh, ok yeah, I'm running shorty carbon fiber ones, shaved off at least 10 grams of weight. thanks for clarifying for me
I wired up my rear led turn signals tonight. Stock wiring, and they blink like they should. I'll let you know what happens when I wire up the fronts.
I actually wired mine up acording to the provided wiriing diagram..... (nuff said). I didnt work same problem steady light. unplugged reversed wires and bam blinkidy blink..
see the problem with putting diode kits in is you may have just left the standard indicators on as they are brighter than leds and due to the diode you are still using the same amount of battery power, the one way i found round this was to do a little rewiring at the turn signal indicator just below the speedo/tacho, i also put on a full post of instructions how to do this and what you needed and also included modified wiring diagrams, so if you do a search for led you should find it and it will sort out all your problems.