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Title: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: ojstinson on April 24, 2009, 04:07:44 PM
Either we have some pretty heavy handed shade tree mechanics here, or they put these things together with pretzels. I hope it's the former, I'm getting a little paranoid about working on my bike. I even read one guy who said he used a torque wrench to specs. and still snapped something.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: scottpA_GS on April 24, 2009, 05:55:58 PM

What bolt(s)? The only "common" ones are the oil filter cover bolts.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these thing
Post by: ojstinson on April 24, 2009, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on April 24, 2009, 05:55:58 PM

What bolt(s)? The only "common" ones are the oil filter cover bolts.


Looks like you answered your own question.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: ecpreston on April 24, 2009, 08:44:33 PM
what is this thread about? Did you have a question? I'm not sure what "put together with pretzels" means, but if you're implying the studs are made of toasted bread and salt, you are mistaken. Anyway, assuming they haven't been abused, it's no issue at all.  :dunno_white:  Thread over?   .....
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: Toogoofy317 on April 24, 2009, 09:05:42 PM
I'm guessing tha what he is asking are "we" the ones of have stripped or snapped a bolt or idiots. Or are the bolts not very good on our bikes. Which in both seem kinda derrogatoy. Anyone can strip the head of a bolt. I'm a girl and mangaed to do  it so I don't think it is our "muscles" that do it. But, it also doesn't mean our bikes are POS's either. Sometimes, that happens. I'm sure if we alll posted everytime we took a screw out correctly we couldn't see anyother posts LOL. So, if you take the success versus failure it will broaden the picture abit.

Mary
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these thing
Post by: ojstinson on April 24, 2009, 09:38:20 PM
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on April 24, 2009, 09:05:42 PM
I'm guessing tha what he is asking are "we" the ones of have stripped or snapped a bolt or idiots. Or are the bolts not very good on our bikes. Which in both seem kinda derrogatoy. Anyone can strip the head of a bolt. I'm a girl and mangaed to do  it so I don't think it is our "muscles" that do it. But, it also doesn't mean our bikes are POS's either. Sometimes, that happens. I'm sure if we alll posted everytime we took a screw out correctly we couldn't see anyother posts LOL. So, if you take the success versus failure it will broaden the picture abit.

Mary

You hit the nail on the head Mary, but it wasn't really a serious thread and not meant to be derogatory. I'm just a little paranoid now about changing my oil filter for the first time-----I'll probably wind up not getting it tight enough & spring a leak.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: qwertydude on April 25, 2009, 12:01:39 AM
If you don't want to over tighten them use a screw-driver-type nut driver, 8 ft pounds I think is all they need which is not hard to do at all and is about as much as you can put with a screwdriver.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: Toogoofy317 on April 25, 2009, 01:09:23 AM
Wow, I made sense today. I was right in mid-swing of my muscle relaxer and pain meds for my shoulder. Was looking back at and like damn my spelling and attitude where waaay off! My friend has a torque indicator or whatever they are called and I use that on the real important parts.

Sorry bout saying you're post was derrogatory! Let's just have a beer  :cheers: . Nah, I'm on meds think how bad that'd make me LOL!

Mary
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: qwertydude on April 25, 2009, 02:35:10 AM
There is a definite set of screws that will strip. The ones one the front brake fluid reservoir. If I'm not mistaken they're made of tin plated peanut butter, or at least a metal of that consistency. I only replaced my fluid once and can see visible damage just from removing them.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these thing
Post by: ohgood on April 25, 2009, 03:53:21 AM
Quote from: qwertydude on April 25, 2009, 02:35:10 AM
There is a definite set of screws that will strip. The ones one the front brake fluid reservoir. If I'm not mistaken they're made of tin plated peanut butter, or at least a metal of that consistency. I only replaced my fluid once and can see visible damage just from removing them.

yes, but it's CARAMELIZED tin plated peanut butter. For strength. It's also some Jap-spec type phillips head IIRC, and not a normal us phillips head type screw.

then there are the carb... float bodies' screws
oil filter cap studs
and lastly...
the dreaded cheese injected chain tension adjusters. these are blamed for everything from famine to unplanned pregnancy. if a torque wrench on the axle is just used..... it's like a condom.

(that was really close to a buddh-ism)
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these thing
Post by: ojstinson on April 25, 2009, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: qwertydude on April 25, 2009, 12:01:39 AM
If you don't want to over tighten them use a screw-driver-type nut driver, 8 ft pounds I think is all they need which is not hard to do at all and is about as much as you can put with a screwdriver.

Great idea qwertydude, never thought of that----minimum leverage, and a much better feel for what your doing---Thanks.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these thing
Post by: ojstinson on April 25, 2009, 06:00:59 AM
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on April 25, 2009, 01:09:23 AM
Wow, I made sense today. I was right in mid-swing of my muscle relaxer and pain meds for my shoulder. Was looking back at and like damn my spelling and attitude where waaay off! My friend has a torque indicator or whatever they are called and I use that on the real important parts.

Sorry bout saying you're post was derrogatory! Let's just have a beer  :cheers: . Nah, I'm on meds think how bad that'd make me LOL!

Mary

Cheers to you Mary, I'll just take a rain check on those beers till your off the meds.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these thing
Post by: commuterdude on April 25, 2009, 06:10:30 AM
some folks seem to have mistaken inch-lbs for Ft-lbs in the past.
Title: Re: Every time I turn around I read about someone snapping a bolt on these things.
Post by: jeremy_nash on April 25, 2009, 06:53:41 PM
I just hand tighten the nuts for the oil filter cover, using a nutdriver handle on the socket.  never had a problem yet