Ok my 2007 gs500f seems a bit slow...........ive had the carbs gone threw and 2 shops have looked at the bike as said its good to go. It just seems under powered.............ive had her up to 95 it it took awhile to get there. Also just doesnt seem to go real fast for the amount of noise she makes.............ive ridden alot of bikes in my day and i understand its not going to be as fast as larger bikes but i have a hard time keeping up with pretty much every other bike around? Is this just my bike or are all gs's like this???
it's not a supersport. it has 50hp if it's in good shape. if you hold each gear to 9k, you'll get going fast enough.
if you need to go faster, please make sure you've got your donor sticker on your license. life-insurance is good to have, too.
yes it's slow.
You should be able to get her to 110-120 indicated, but it's only theory....
I have never ridden my GS that fast, when I got to about 95 she could still go, but I couldn't heheh
Quote from: newbie on June 23, 2009, 04:50:31 PM
just doesnt seem to go real fast for the amount of noise she makes.
What's your intake and exhaust situation? A loud exhaust to keep the folks that like to go deef happy can quite easily manage to make power delivery significantly worse than stock - especially if nothing else is changed with it.
OTOH, it's a sport-styled UJM, not an actual crotch rocket.
its all bone stock, just thought it should have more get up than it does, for some reason when i just got the carbs synched and the orings replaced it felt like it had all kinds of pick up............but after 300 miles it seems to have less power.........might just be me, but when i ride 2 up (me 210 and ol lady 105) it seems way slow........i usally run her up to 8k and shift if im trying to go "fast", and thats not very often mostly shift around 6 or 6.5, but it seems doggy on the highway. I just got this bike for a commuter while my ironhead project is being finished and to be more reliable than my cb750 chopper so dont really wanna beat it.............i like the bike though and am thinking of making it a small touring bike since this thing can go forever on a tank of gas.
bike sounds fine!
remember when 2 up you got 315 lbs being pushed by 45-50hp
you probably got used to bike again so it no longer seems as fast but it still is the same.
and i think peak power is abt 9k rpm if i remember correctly
My stock(for now) '09 gets up to 100 mph really easy, with plenty of pull left it seems, but I don't have the balls to go any faster. It starts getting scary.
My 08 is quick for the type of bike it is. I am in 3rd before my husband shifts the zx14 to 2nd but if I push each gear to 9 or 10 k there is not many cars that can take me off the line ( I am only 105lbs). As for top speed I have not tried. Above 80ish I am not really comfortable yet. I am very new to this game.
Best of luck with you bike!!
Seems plenty fast to me--as the teenage girl in her new Pontiac Solstice learned last week.
However,
Later that day, when another guy pulled up in his new Mustang GT500 and started revving the engine I just casually pulled away and shifted to second at 4k RPM.
I prefer to "believe" that it is fast...without letting the facts get in the way of my preconceived opinion.
Quote from: XealotX on June 23, 2009, 07:50:39 PM
Seems plenty fast to me--as the teenage girl in her new Pontiac Solstice learned last week.
However,
Later that day, when another guy pulled up in his new Mustang GT500 and started revving the engine I just casually pulled away and shifted to second at 4k RPM.
I prefer to "believe" that it is fast...without letting the facts get in the way of my preconceived opinion.
I did that today with a guy in a Mustang.
I was revving at the light so he got mad and just burned um down.
To bad he didn't see that state cop :police: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
He had a very bad day.
Quote from: cafeboy on June 23, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: XealotX on June 23, 2009, 07:50:39 PM
Seems plenty fast to me--as the teenage girl in her new Pontiac Solstice learned last week.
However,
Later that day, when another guy pulled up in his new Mustang GT500 and started revving the engine I just casually pulled away and shifted to second at 4k RPM.
I prefer to "believe" that it is fast...without letting the facts get in the way of my preconceived opinion.
I did that today with a guy in a Mustang.
I was revving at the light so he got mad and just burned um down.
To bad he didn't see that state cop :police: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
He had a very bad day.
awsome! :thumb: got love dumbass drivers! :D
yep yep
set up a guy on a ninja one day so when he pulled the front up after the light went green he hit a big pot hole.
He had a bad day too
While i feel like there's somthing wrong with this bike then, cause i dont think i could have a story like any of these with my bike, my 72 cb750 makes this thing look like a wuss wagon and i thought it was kinda slowish
I don't know man... my R6 gets up 100+ REALLY quick. I'd check to see if it's not a 500cc bike or something like that.
These bikes are slow. If you want speed youll have to get at least a sv650.
Well you guys convienced me..........its just slow..............its fun i still like it............and im pretty sure my 07 gs500 is a 500cc :cookoo:
Quote from: kml.krk on June 23, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
You should be able to get her to 110-120 indicated, but it's only theory....
I have never ridden my GS that fast, when I got to about 95 she could still go, but I couldn't heheh
i have on an E , that being said it can be slow. it wont get you into trouble UNLESS you go looking for it. lemme ask you this newbie, what is your riding like? aka when you take off, are you running her hard or grandma style or?, also how many miles etc etc etc ( etc beign as many details of her as you can share)
take it to a track and see what time you get. then we'll know if it's running slower than normal. Mine is fast enough to 90 that it still scares me. i've never ridden another bike before, but it seems pretty quick for 500cc. i'm going to buy my roommates sv650 this winter, and then i will get really scared lol.
Take a CBR125 for a ride......now take your GS500 for a ride.
Now you really understand slow.
THe GS500 is my first bike and I believe that it is a perfect bike for that purpose. It is very forgiving and it has enough power to keep me out of trouble and yet ride in most situations safely (highways, twisties).
Remember - CBR125 then ride your GS500.
We don't have CBR125s here, no cbr250s, no ninja400s. The only choice we have smaller than a gs500 is the ninja 250, which kills be because I love smaller bikes. I think those ninja400 look like way too much fun, but there's no engine size restrictions for beginners in our country, so 90% of people go straight to 600cc supersports
As far as the original topic.... I swear this gs500 is not one bit faster than my ninja250 was, the GS is about 11 years older than the 250 was, but neither of them had had any technological updates at that point. I went +8 in the rear with a new chain and stopped caring about top speed, which helped out a bit.
We have no size restrictions in Canada either but insurance is the killer for most new riders.
I thought about getting a 600SS but decided against as I did not think it was a good bike to learn on. The Ninja 250 is a great looking bike and I know a few people that have these. I believe that they are similar in performance to the GS500 but I think we have the edge.
My bike struggles to get to 95 but that is because I have had to have the restricter kit installed because of UK law so I am limited to about 33bhp. All the kit is mind you, is a pair of washers between the carbs and the engine to reduce the available air/fuel flow!
Quote from: smartroad on June 24, 2009, 08:18:07 AM
My bike struggles to get to 95 but that is because I have had to have the restricter kit installed because of UK law so I am limited to about 33bhp. All the kit is mind you, is a pair of washers between the carbs and the engine to reduce the available air/fuel flow!
That sounds like the kind of thing that most people here would have on their bike 1 day a year, and as soon as the new inspection sticker is on, those washers would be sitting in a parts box on my workbench.
Bikes a 07 gs500f with no mods and a little over 5k miles........carbs just cleaned, syched and o-rings replaced............I ride both ways depending on the situation........when im just driving around im pretty gentle, i come from the harley camp and if you beat a AMF shes gonna crap out on ya quick..........but when im trying to go fast from the line just doesnt seem like there is much power, and even on large hills i feel like i have to down shift and i takes forever to reach 95 mph
I too had to realize that this is a slow bike. I wanted it to be some fast bike when I got it but realized after a day or two that I should have bought a bigger one. But it is fun as hell and very flickable. Going to work has been very fun lately as I am "playing" more with the GS. When I get on her though she has some stuff to give. Just yesterday there was a guy turning in front of me. When he turned he was playing Pac Man with the lanes. I got sick of it and downshifted into first and floored it by him. I was pretty satisfied with the move as it was a quick one.
But, I too would like a little more as well. At least your's isn't a '92, lol. :cheers:
Yeah its a slow bike, but its faster on the road than the DRZ400 I started on (at least past 30mph), and "much" faster than the Ninja 250.
For me, its fast enough that when I decide I want to have a little fun, I can have a little fun. If I really push it I can pretty much keep up with my dad's Vstrom1000 when he is passing cars. Thats no supersport but it has a lot more horespower than the GS. The difference is that we have to downshift and really put the effort in on the GS to get the same response, but then you feel like you have accomplished something when the little bike accelerates forward.
It sounds like the OP either has high expectations for the bike, isn't riding it correctly for maximum power, or does have some sort of problem that needs to be fixed.
Quote from: Bluesmudge on June 24, 2009, 09:34:10 AM
It sounds like the OP either has high expectations for the bike, isn't riding it correctly for maximum power, or does have some sort of problem that needs to be fixed.
I agree. Even though it is not a fast bike it still can get up and go. But for such a new bike?
Stock '07 can't top 95? It should do better than that. What noise? A bone stock GS is as quiet as a new lawnmower. You weigh 300 lbs.? Cleaned your air filter yet? It's kind of early for a bad battery, but check the water and clean the terminals. When a battery gets weak enough it will rob ignition at high rpm which would explain this. My first bike did that, I was 15, and it took me all summer to figure out why it would only do 55 when it should do 70. Probably was a good thing, helped keep me in one piece while I learned to ride!
And yeah, with smaller engines like this you have to rev it up if you want acceleration. It's not a literbike so you can't just roll on the throttle.
By the way, why are you dismantling carbs on a 2-year-old bike? Did you leave untreated gas in it? Otherwise it's probably a waste of time.
Quote from: O.C.D. on June 24, 2009, 09:31:10 AM
I too had to realize that this is a slow bike. I wanted it to be some fast bike when I got it but realized after a day or two that I should have bought a bigger one. But it is fun as hell and very flickable.
You should've seen the dissapointed look on my face after I first picked up my 250. I was still happy to have it, but I pulled out of the parking lot, made a right turn, gave it some gas, shifted up a couple gears, and realized I was already over the max 35mph in 6th gear that I was allowed to do for the first 500 miles of the break in period. That was a slow break in period. Now pulling out of the parking lot on my triumph for the first time was a WHOLE different story.
Quote from: XealotX on June 23, 2009, 07:50:39 PM
Later that day, when another guy pulled up in his new Mustang GT500 and started revving the engine I just casually pulled away and shifted to second at 4k RPM..
yeah.....back when i was younger, & stupider, with my '94 fzr600 (set for the race track) i had a guy in a porsche pull up to me wanting to take me on. i ignored him for a while. then after too much persisting, on his part, i went down 3 gears, got up to 140mph, and let off the throttle....he finally caught up to me :thumb:
i much enjoy the power of my gs now in my "mature" years.
Quote from: tt_four on June 24, 2009, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: O.C.D. on June 24, 2009, 09:31:10 AM
I too had to realize that this is a slow bike. I wanted it to be some fast bike when I got it but realized after a day or two that I should have bought a bigger one. But it is fun as hell and very flickable.
You should've seen the dissapointed look on my face after I first picked up my 250. I was still happy to have it, but I pulled out of the parking lot, made a right turn, gave it some gas, shifted up a couple gears, and realized I was already over the max 35mph in 6th gear that I was allowed to do for the first 500 miles of the break in period. That was a slow break in period. Now pulling out of the parking lot on my triumph for the first time was a WHOLE different story.
I don't believe that break-in period is for real. I think they do it in an attempt to keep new riders alive. The 250 Ninja has a high redline, so I don't see how running it during break-in at, say, 5000 rpm or so is going to hurt anything. What makes me suspicious is the 35mph stipulation. Break-in is all about keeping the engine under a certain rpm so the rings can seat properly. Road speed isn't relevant. A new rider could rev it up in first gear and do a poor job of break-in without breaking the rule.
The orings went bad in the carbs and the bikes idle was high cause of it and the carbs were soaked clean synched orings replaced.............not trying to be rude i do know how to drive when its all revved up there is a difference in the power between 7-9K but still is not fast to me at all and feels under powered.............way slow when me and my ol lday are on the bike (me 209 and her 105)........but since the 2 shops have taken a look at her im just going to assume these bikes are slower.......not that i dont like it, the gas usage is great and it is super reliable compared to my other 2 bikes, and i got a great deal on it.........just wish it had some power to match its looks!!!
Proper break in with any engine is fairly critical. The most important thing is that you vary engine RPM's a lot to make sure all of the components break in properly.....and stay away from the redline for a bit. Newbie, I kinda think you have SOME kind of a minor problem. While these GS's aren't amazing by any means, your 07 should feel decently quick when ur riding solo. No rocket by any means, but it should satisfy your needs. I'd say look the bike over carefully and make sure everything is up to snuff. My stock '09 will pull the front tire off the ground a couple of inches if I'm WFO on the second gear shift. I only weigh 150 tho.....
What could be wrong....theres no leaks in the carb boots??? New plugs...fresh correct amount of oil.......i dont understand?
Quote from: bill14224 on June 24, 2009, 11:21:41 AM
I don't believe that break-in period is for real. I think they do it in an attempt to keep new riders alive. The 250 Ninja has a high redline, so I don't see how running it during break-in at, say, 5000 rpm or so is going to hurt anything.
It wasn't a MPH limit, it was a rev limit, I don't remember how high, but somewhere around $4k I'd say, it's been too long to remember, but whatever the rev limit was only let you hit 35mph, the next couple hundred miles I could go 55 so I could atleast take it on a real road. I'll look up the break in later when i've got some time to see what it actually was.
Newbie, I never tried a top speed run with a passenger, and I doubt many of us have. :cookoo: If I tried that I would have to learn to maintain control of the bike while being punched in the ribs!
If your bike will go 110 with you by yourself running flat-out for a mile, that's all any of us get. Remember, 25 ft-lbs. of torque and 47 HP isn't much. The only reason a GSF can do 110 is because of its light weight and the fairing so increased load will kill acceleration and top speed. So will a windy day unless it's behind you, which is where the stories of stock 120-130 mph GSFs come from. That, and long, gentle, un-noticed slopes.
Even your old CB 750 was good for 120 in stock form, (after the suspension is upgraded to stop the weaving) so the GS will seem slow by comparison. A GS gives up 20 HP to a CB 750.
It's an air-cooled 500. The GSF looks like a Gixxer but performs like a 450 Nighthawk.
you have to use 4th and 5th to 9500 rpm had mine to 115 and I weight 295, 6th gear has no acceleration power it is for hwy cruising
The reality is that its a gs500 again its not a supersport its more a sport touring if you want more acceleration go with a 14t front sprocket you loose your upper end spend but you got more get up and go.
lonewolfpup, welcome to the board. 115 = about 108-110. Our speedos lie. My XS 750's speedo lies even more. Manufacturers do this on purpose to try to keep hot-rodders alive by soothing their egos. Try using a GPS and you'll see. The speedo will only be off a couple MPH at legal speeds, (50 is 48 for me, just like my car) but the error will increase with speed.
Mine is almost 10% off consistently, and I think that is what most other people have found. This means that 115mph indicated is actually more like 103mph.
I had a GPS on my bike last night. 125 kmh was actually 114kmh on the GPS.
Most bikes have the speedo error built in.
I wonder is my mileage is accumulates at the actual number or the speedo display number?
Took the bike out yesterday got the speedo wond up to 120mph in 6th gear took awhile to get there.....( and yes brought all gears up to 9K)...............................i doubt it was 120 im thinking more like 110 cause my speedo seems to be off by 10mph.......even the replacement i just installed.............so i think these bikes are just slow.......dont get me wrong i like it..........but it just seems silly some off us try and make these "fast" with exhaust and other stuff...........im glad my F was conveted into a E.........i might just feel silly with that big gsxr looking fairing and no balls to match it!!!!
My speedo hasnt worked since I got the bike. IMHO it's the only way to ride.
My odo reads 23.9 miles for 22.6 miles travelled. Not 10% but maybe 6%.
That's on brand new tires. Well, 900 miles on a pair of BT045s
Quote from: bikegirl88 on June 25, 2009, 06:01:53 AM
I had a GPS on my bike last night. 125 kmh was actually 114kmh on the GPS.
Most bikes have the speedo error built in.
I wonder is my mileage is accumulates at the actual number or the speedo display number?
i mean really what did you expect man? it's a 500cc bike that weighs 400lbs. it has roughly 50hp at the crank, or even less. gsxr 600 has 120hp. of course it's nowhere as fast.
It's all relative. Until 1969 no production bike of any size had more performance than your GS 500 with no balls. Why would you want to go faster than 110 on public roads anyway? Death wish? Desire to lose your license? Is that nurse at the hospital THAT HOT? :bowdown: There are better ways to meet her!
Quote from: newbie on June 26, 2009, 10:47:09 AM
im glad my F was conveted into a E.........i might just feel silly with that big gsxr looking fairing and no balls to match it!!!!
I think you've got that one completely backwards. I consider it an inverted ratio of windscreen to balls. What fun is going 150mph when all you've gotta do is tuck behind a windscreen and not even feel the wind?? If I'm going fast I wanna feel it. I think these are the GSXRs you want, that first one is almost 20 years old and still look like more fun than a current GSXR to me.
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Three digits is more than enough for me. Seems like the young I'm gonna live forever attitude. First time you scrape a motorcyclist off the road with a shovel that did 130mph without a helmet it all makes sense :thumb:
I :dunno_white: but 110 is pretty fast isn't it? I mean if you wanna compare a gixxer is way slow compared to say a rocket bike on the salt flats. 300mph is balls. 130 on I-4 is rocks as in dumb as rocks.
My .02 but what do I know I'm just a girl!
Mary
Amen to that, Mary!
Wind never bothered me much. I never had a windshield. My XS 750 came with one but I never put it on. Don't understand the hubub about wind. Full-face helmet, leather, and gloves do it for me, even at 80.
If the wind is bothering someone, I would think he either needs better gear or he's going too fast.
Maybe on a long trip, but otherwise, leave mine naked! :thumb:
yeah, that's kind of my opinion. I'd rather have fun going normal speeds on a regular bike than ride around going 150+ tucked behind a windshield. I don't really think a bike can be judged based on it's windshield. Touring bikes have windshields, and how ballsy are they supposed to be? Someday when I move up to a faster bike I'll most likely gear it way down as top speed doesn't mean much to me now like it did when I was 20.
When you get a gsxr1000, you realise just how slow the gs500 is.