Interesting to say the least. I do remember him when he was sitll dark skinned. What a weird and sad ending to what could have been an amazing life!
Mary
definately the howard hughes of pop music.
Yup exactly what I thought too!
I'm gonna bet he overdosed accidentally! We shall see!
Mary
I dont think it was an accident he was broke or close to broke, he had been put in the middle or crap for year his life was going down and he knew it. hiw come back didnt work so this was an easy way out and putting him as a legend.
Well, love him or hate him he was an icon and there will never be another like him.
I have to say I still love his music.
Quote from: cafeboy on June 25, 2009, 07:46:10 PM
Well, love him or hate him he was an icon and there will never be another like him.
I have to say I still love his music.
Let's hope not. :D :D
I am somewhat saddened , for his music as it were, NOT his personal choices later on in life. i liked his stuff during hte late 70's- late 80's. BTW farrah fawcett also died , man i had a boy crush on here when i was like 9yo or something lol :sad:
Btw i know this may sound tasteless and such, but i was drunk a few months back and looked at his picture recently, and thought, man he looks like hte human form of skeletor
(http://mjjpictures.free.fr/invincible/appearances/nyc/070602/008.jpg)
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/anitra_c/37298211_1b023df733.jpg)
:dunno_white: :cookoo:
Oh yeah I've made that connection too! Boy the media knows no low or boundaries. ET already has a picture of him out intubated. You can't even die without a camera in your face.
Ed Mcmahon also died yesterday. Not been a good week for Hollywood! Was at Publix this morning and the Equirer said Caradine was kille by two lesbein hookers?!?!? WTF!
My goodness what have we come too!
Mary
well if he went out on painkillers or whatever it was, he didnt feel a thing, i hate it had to happen/ or happened, BUT it did, nehow heres the history ( unofficial of course) of michael jacksons face
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html
the "planet of the apes" spoof is spot on.
Gotta admit, pretty good poster-child for microdermabrasion.
Quote from: wladziu on June 25, 2009, 09:28:07 PM
the "planet of the apes" spoof is spot on.
Gotta admit, pretty good poster-child for microdermabrasion.
Indeed, i wonder if they had his pic up at say many plastic surgeons places sayign, IF you can make this look good again.....
Bet he hung himself while masturbating.
BTW, who'd you piss off? Or are you on the rag, like I was?
Oh negative on that, was something that got bumped forward prematurely and threwa monkeywrench into the mix. i made myself look like an ass methinks :embarrassed:
oh.
Well, cheer the F up. I'm thinking of making back patches for an anti-cool club. You're in, if you'll stop cutting yourself.
Ehhh homey dont cut :thumb:, im f%$king accident prone enough as it is lmao, f%&ked up my back, kidneys leg who knows what else lol :embarrassed: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
I know.
Tomorrow gotta go to friends pawn shop, and resurrect a late 90's honda vtwin, thats been sitting for a year, then maybe go for a ride, provided im not stumbling too bad :oops: lol, then go to work, finishing hte rx7 will be fun tho. as soon as i get that done maybe ill be able to take it easy, hell i need to take it easy now. idk where to go tho tbh. cant be nowhere near home, cause id end up working lol. nehow. how you been doing man, not heard from ya in a bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En-cHBv7UpA&feature=related one of my faves. the classic stuff as well
Finer than a frog hair.
Got locked up for ghost ridin' the whip with my peeps.
Yay or nay on the back-patch...
I'm taking designs and name suggestions - must be purposefully anti-cool.
I'll pull together a charter if I can get a little support.
As Supreme Dictator for Life, I'm going to offer Mary "Chief Medical Officer".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8&feature=channel
LONGEST INTRO EVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyJbIOZjS8&feature=channel)
I'm nicknaming you Giggles.
BTW,
You can patch up to 4 cm with super-glue as long as it isn't deeper than adipose tissue, after using tincture of iodine or your bottle of Chanel #5.
Ehh you talkin bout my leg? or?
Yes.
itsa a good ehh hell ygpm il send you latest pic of it. you see brb k YGPM warnign tho its kinda gnarly lookin a tad darker than ordinary but flash on my camera washes it out so w/o flash is closer
OTC superglue is just another variant of cyanoacrylate that's in DermaBond, and it's bacteriostatic. DermaBond's just more flexible and easier on the nose. $20, however, versus $1.50.
Get the kind that turns white when you spit on it: it'll harden despite the presence of blood. Just make sure it's capillary bleeding.
And, next time you wreck your back, see a D.O. instead. They're practiced in spinal manipulation, unlike M.D.'s, and are "whole patient" oriented.
K now how do i know if its cap. bleeding? and the glue. fill scab thing across liek id be spackling a slight detn in drywall?
and sorry my mind is a bit fuzzy atm . a D.O is what? if i may ask?
:confused:
Alright rephrase/clarification time lol sorry. " it'll harden despite the presence of blood. Just make sure it's capillary bleeding. " thats what i was referring to. and the glue. how would i apply this. if it will work, how do i apply it to wound?, any brand preferences or? ahhh found answers on the DO doc
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-do-doctor-of-osteopathic-medicine.htm may have to look into this
Didnt know if you were stoned or trying to get attention, in which case- i wouldn't like you.
capillary bleeding = bright and oozing, easily stopped/clotted. Weren't you in the boy scouts? (Okay, me neither - they're homos supremus.)
No brand preference, just the cheap stuff. Gorilla glue doesn't work very well.
And, yes, like spackling except thinner. Like astroglide. Only enough to make it shiny.
Just make sure you don't slather it over muscle, tendons, nerve, or nonscapillary blood vessels. Only skin and fat.
It'll leave a scar, and any hair that is stuck in from the outside will prmote infection. So, don't use it on your (imaginary) girlfriend.
chiropractition originally budded from osteopathic medicine, except an actual D.O. can write prescriptions for your yeast infection also.
Drink lots of cherry juice- it'll help with the arthritis you're gonna have in your back from now on. &nd take the entire 10 days of your antibioitics. Some of your moodiness could be related to infection.
Dontcha know Wlad not everyone is as uber smart as you! :icon_razz: Anyhooo! I haven't looked at wounds recently but does the wound have flaps that he can glue shut?
Yup just as you said cap bleeding is bright oozing red. If it is really dark or spurting that's bad uhhhmkay! BTW isn't astroglide lubrication for uhm okay you know! If it is slippery stuff is really good too!
I had a DO once she was one of my favorite docs but all of a sudden got Bells Palsy. She struggled with it for about a year it is really hard to be a doc when you can't talk. She suffered graciously and was one of the most compassionate people I had ever met. I heard the other day she died about a year ago apparently the paralysis spread throughout the body and she chose not to be on a ventilator to live. Was really saddned about her death. Wonder what she actually had to make her body shut down like that over a period of three years. Don't think it was Guillian Barre syndrom and too fast for Parkinsons :dunno_white:
BTW one of my favorite quick look up companions for medical remedies was ST 31-91B the US army special forces medical handbook. Learned alot of cool stuff in there LOL!
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on June 26, 2009, 03:36:58 PM
but does the wound have flaps that he can glue shut?
In a perfect world. But, you can cover, too.
They sell it at the drug store. Not sure if it's DermaBond or what. The really good stuff has a rollerball tip and a capsule inside that you have to crush first. But, it's about $20 a vial, one use only. The drug store stuff... don't know much about it. It's probably more flexible than the cheap junk, and better application method.
Besides, you know how folks are always afraid to clean out avulsions. Then it needs to be opened back up, excised, ligated, closed again, and given a course of antibiotics.
But, if you can't ID tissue types, and have enough dermis to pinch together (and seriously can't afford a professional) - sure.
Lavaged, not ligated.
$350 for the new SF manual. I'd beg you for your old one, but it's a fossil by now. Jealous, though. If you do happen to have an empty box laying around... and a few bucks for shipping....
Working on the back-patch design, still. Not so good at logos. Right now, it's just a sprocket with block lettering above it in a semi-circle.
Wanna help? No bones or crossed wrenches.
blood is dark btw soo [/threadjack]
Your blood is dark?
in the wound terry in teh wound. was not bright by any means :dunno_white:, and mary youve seen teh pic so you know what it looks like for hte most part. didnt show hte latest one but similar in shape to the ones youve seen in teh past
wet or dry? Wladziu would know more, but if it's wet and dark, you have a problem............
Quote from: spc on June 26, 2009, 09:18:29 PM
wet or dry? Wladziu would know more, but if it's wet and dark, you have a problem............
the wound is wet. has only dried up once. been doing my damndest to keep it clean, but also trying to dry it out. as well, if i cover ti. it takes forever to dry. BUT also since iv removed the last bandage took 6 days to dry. and finished day 20 of keflex and a sulfa antibiotic. Good god im worthless. i threadjack a michael jackson thread and end up talking about my wounds. i am soo sorry. if yall want to continue this. do so via pm, i dont wanna piss anyone else off lol. take care
Aaron
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I don't think that wound is able to press together. It is beginning to look more like an ulcer than an actual laceration. Are you using sterile water and such to clean this wound? A dressing is your best shot as soon as it gets wet change it out with a new one and make sure it is bandaged lightly. Some dermagraft would be nice but $1500 a treatment is steep but vs the alternative! Also, nicotine isn't doing your body a damn bit of good because it is a vasoconstrictor!
SPC I've actually had alot of experience dealing with wound management. Worked at MD Anderson Cancer center in surgical oncology for a year and you should see the wounds people get from chemo and such. My worst experience however was a women that had Chron's disese (yes she ended up on the oncology floor in the VIP room for some reason) and she had an intestinal fistula that managed its way to attach to the skin. It abcessed and when it got really bad ruptured. She literally had feces squirting out of her abdomen with bleeding as well. Ever smell a GI bleed? Even though ORMC is a Level 1 trauma center all ICU beds were full at the time so I had a 12 hour shift of trying to keep that wound clean and suctioning feces. A couple of times the smell go to me despite huffing alcohol pads and rubbing vicks vapo rub under my nose and was heaving in her bathroom! I took a shower before I left work and then a two hour shower after work the smell permeated those scrubs and had to be disposed of. My roommate never forgave me for that nights wonderful smell!
Mary
OYE that had tosuck , yeah last tiem at ER was rediagnosed fom cellulitis to an ulcer. or maybe misdiagnosed fomr day 1 idk anymore 4 days out fomr antis now. i guess well see where it goes
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 26, 2009, 10:26:43 PMGood god im worthless. i threadjack a michael jackson thread and end up talking about my wounds. i am soo sorry.
Stop it, Giggles.
Just got a chance to see the picture on something other than my phone. Pretty advanced. Is it oozing, yet?
How did that start, anyway? Is it a venous ulcer; did it just develop on it's own? Or some sort of trauma? No need for a big story or anything - venous ulcers can benefit from compression bandages to promote circulation.
20 days of Keflex and sulfa? Looks like you might have antibiotic-resistant staph. Running a fever? General lousy feeling/tired?
You need to go back and have them give you another course of something else, since I take it you're allergic to penicillin/shellfish.
Skin grafts are all well and good, but it's not gonna be completely necessary until you're approaching toxic shock. (And, you might be getting close.)
You've got a pretty good size colony of something growing in your leg, basically. It's slowed the healing to a virtual stop, and now it's feeding on you. Especially with those curled edges and all that redness. It should have been close to closing by now. You've got clotting, and that's good. But, the colony's gotten under the skin, and there's the problem. Gotta kill it from the inside out, without opening it up anymore. Keep slapping on some of your favorite bacitracin/neomycin/polymyxin complex (aka Neosporin) (since staph is gram-positive) and changing the bandage often.
You need to take that leg more seriously. Stop being a baby and start annoying the crap out of your doctor. And stop crying about medical insurance. You chose to live without it. I'm telling you for your own good; that thing's not going away on it's own. Keep skipping out, and you're gonna need to be admitted. And, no doc's gonna be nice enough to treat it for free - there's thousands and thousands out there already trying the same thing. Why do you think crackheads die early?
actually lad, the lib governor of the state of tn, decided i dont need it anymore, and can not ever have it back ;) :(
I see.
I'm interested in learning more about that.
If I knew more, I'd help more. But, I can't. All I can do is "play doctor" over the internet, and give pretty limited advice. Find a cheap clinic where the immigrant workers go, and bug the sh!t out of them. Problem is, they'll try to treat you as cheaply and quickly as possible. So, educate yourself on the problem and don't be afraid to argue with them to get treated better.
It's the way the world works, unfortunately.
You can be poor and smart, or rich and stupid, but don't be poor and stupid.
And, for Pete's sake, wash your hands before and after you touch that leg. EVERY TIME! Keep that thing clean! Soap's not good enough (it mostly just works as a mechanical lubricant, to help physically scrub away the bacteria). First, wash it in betadine, then wash with alcohol to keep the stains off. Betadine will stain your clothes, but it keeps bacteria away much longer than just washing in alcohol. Don't use hydrogen peroxide, because it will eat away the clotting that you DO have.
Then, slap some Neosporin on there, then wash your hands with the same alcohol. THEN put on a NEW sterile bandage. Costs more than just pulling up your sock, but it's called "taking care of yourself".
Do it a few times a day, at least twice. To cut cost on bandages, use a sterile pad with a reusable wrap. A big box of 2x2's should be only a few bucks. Just use enough to completely cover it, two deep.
That, along with the RIGHT antibiotics, should get you healed up before you need to be admitted for IV antibiotics and Mr. 10-Blade. Ask Mary how much THAT costs.
Not trying to talk down to you (this isn't your fault), but I hope you see that being the "tough guy" doesn't land you hot women or big trophies. Just a fat, red colony of staphylococcus aureus.
i hear ya lad, hell, have had no energy for last week or so :(, general crappiness. can get into health clinic in 3 weeks. will er if it gets worse [/threadjack]
No, no. It's already "worse".
You've got a staph colony feasting on your flesh, and it's migrated through your blood stream and lymphatic system enough to affect your behavior. Feel the lymph node in your groin, I'll bet it's swollen or at least sore. You need to attack this thing. Your body chemistry's out of whack from fighting this thing, and your immune system is pretty much overwhelmed. Look how much you're apologizing and crap, lately.
Antibiotics don't just kill the "bad" microbes, they also kill the "good" ones. The ones that keep opportunistics at bay. It's why women often get yeast infections after taking antibiotics.
Now, what do you think's gonna happen, given your weak-@ss immune system?
And, it's not a matter of simply keeping clean or not working very hard. There's more bacteria on your little toe right now than sand on your favorite beach. Half your poop, by weight, is bacteria. It's just a matter of time until one single microbe (and that's all it takes) to make another little home.
Look at those little red spots next to your wound. That's uncirculated, clotted blood. See how it's inside the red field surrounding your wound? The staph that's inside that red field looooooves blood. More food= more microbes, more microbes = more itching and broken blood vessels = more microbes. See where I'm going?
I'm telling you, that leg looks like twice-baked diarrhea. When it gets those red spots and curled edges... you're done. Next thing to expect is oozing yellow fluid and then stinky cheese smell. The longer you wait from now, the more you're gonna end up paying. Expect exponential movement of the decimal point.
And tell your doc you wanna start taking an anti-histamine. Maybe it'll get you out of this freaking depression you're in.
Don't take it just from my advice, though. I don't know enough, yet.
heh lovely :( how can i get relief for this back ? ive threadjacked more than my share. answer via pm if you wish
Quote from: wladziu on June 27, 2009, 12:52:11 PM
I see.
I'm interested in learning more about that.
If I knew more, I'd help more. But, I can't. All I can do is "play doctor" over the internet, and give pretty limited advice. Find a cheap clinic where the immigrant workers go, and bug the sh!t out of them. Problem is, they'll try to treat you as cheaply and quickly as possible. So, educate yourself on the problem and don't be afraid to argue with them to get treated better.
It's the way the world works, unfortunately.
You can be poor and smart, or rich and stupid, but don't be poor and stupid.
And, for Pete's sake, wash your hands before and after you touch that leg. EVERY TIME! Keep that thing clean! Soap's not good enough (it mostly just works as a mechanical lubricant, to help physically scrub away the bacteria). First, wash it in betadine, then wash with alcohol to keep the stains off. Betadine will stain your clothes, but it keeps bacteria away much longer than just washing in alcohol. Don't use hydrogen peroxide, because it will eat away the clotting that you DO have.
Then, slap some Neosporin on there, then wash your hands with the same alcohol. THEN put on a NEW sterile bandage. Costs more than just pulling up your sock, but it's called "taking care of yourself".
Do it a few times a day, at least twice. To cut cost on bandages, use a sterile pad with a reusable wrap. A big box of 2x2's should be only a few bucks. Just use enough to completely cover it, two deep.
That, along with the RIGHT antibiotics, should get you healed up before you need to be admitted for IV antibiotics and Mr. 10-Blade. Ask Mary how much THAT costs.
Not trying to talk down to you (this isn't your fault), but I hope you see that being the "tough guy" doesn't land you hot women or big trophies. Just a fat, red colony of staphylococcus aureus.
Called tenncare ( Horribly mismanaged from the beginning) they cut out many enrolees, to qualify, have to be female with children) draw a check for anythign, or have in teh past, have cancer, or any and all of hte above. the cover tn they replacved it with is no better than what im using now. literally NO better.
Dr. Tom Kim, the founder of the Free Medical Clinic of America, and a group of patients, community leaders and other members of the medical community have joined together to open free medical clinics across East Tennessee later this year under the banner of Clinic of Hope USA. The first clinic run by the non-profit group is planned for Oak Ridge in either late July or early August and Dr. Kim will begin seeing patients at Methodist Medical Center once a week until a clinic can be opened at First United Methodist Church. We will let you know the particulars when the opening date draws closer.
http://www.ramusa.org/expeditions/schedule.htm
It also seems that interfaith does not require you to be a knox county resident. I would call and explain the situation. Try to get a hold of this Dr. Kim and explain the situation. You only get as far as you put into it. Or go back to the ED or an urgent care clinic.
I see.
Wish I could give you direction on it, but I know surprisingly little about that sort of thing. The best I CAN tell you, though, is that it wouldn't be unacceptable to receive help from any of your loved ones (if they're willing and able). It's always a last resort sort of thing, but you're pretty much there, man.
I know everyone's family situation is different (please, don't fill me in), but pride goeth before the fall.
Keep drinking though, and not a soul will help you. "Pain management" or not.
If I knew you in person, I probably wouldn't be giving you the limited advice I am now, just based on that.
Wracking my brain on your situation... and looking at your pain management problem and finding a doctor to treat you... I want to say that you should go to the health department in person. Bring a coworker or an older (respectable) family member or your boss (probably the best, if he has time), and find a social worker. Do NOT leave the office until you've reached some sort of plan of action. It's THEIR JOB to find ways of dealing with cases such as yourself that slip through the cracks in the bureaucracy.
They don't do a good job of it, because they're not paid well. Pay them a shaZam!-ton of respect, and it MAY work well for you.
That's all I've got, and I seriously wish I could do more.
Other than that, like I said, just try to find an el cheapo clinic with a crappy waiting room. Don't be afraid to tell the doc that you can't afford the high-end antibiotics. They get kick-backs for prescribing certain things, but it doesn't mean it'll work better. If it's $80 a course, then tell him you simply won't take it - to find you another. Nothing with a brand name. You want generic stuff that you can buy from Walmart.
That course of action with the drugs is better used BEFORE infections get so advanced, so take my advice with a grain of salt. I AM just a pre-med.
And, about your back:
Like I said, try to find a DO. If he can't help you, or doesn't want to refer you to a chiropractor, then I'm not certain what else you could do.
I don't remember exactly what your back problem is, but many people do have lingering nerve damage.
Shouldn't be debilitating, but I don't know what the problem is.
But, telling people you're turning to alcohol (and actually doing it)... uh-unh. No soup for you.
got declined by interfaith not being a knox county res. . that aside i CAN change my dl addy to a number on dawson hollow road powell tn ( friends home i visit regularly. They okayed it. not fraud either. it is i guess youd call it a secondary residence. i stay there occasionally. liek you do at bills. helping out and stuff. so legit. yeah dr kim heard about this as well. THANK YOU mary. still luv ya. this was the info i was looking for :kiss3:
Oh, Mary posted at the same time as me!
That's a bad @ss program! It's gonna be packed quickly, if it's not already. Get an appointment NOW, without waiting for the opening date. Talk to the entire chain of command on it, until you get a positive answer. Tell them you have an open skin ulcer at an advanced stage of infection, nearing gangrenous. If they say they'll call you back, talk to their boss. Bug the ABSOLUTE sh!t out of them.
Sure, tell them about your back and stuff. But, if you drop the hint that you're slurping a DROP of alcohol for it - you're done. No pain meds for you.
Looking for pain meds is counter-productive, anyway. I'd be in someone's office refusing to leave until it's fixed, if it were me. If that means the disability office, ultimately, then so be it. Hell, they might even be able to find you treatment, to get you off their dime.
ehh narcs id rather not have. i " obtain them" like i did tonight. pain was intense while at work. not avoidable sorry :oops: gota work off of them tomorrow. am out and cannot go back cause money is tight. so i have monday off though :woohoo: except for 4 hours of getting that victory running. im being lazy
Giggles, stop telling us things like "I took narcotics while working around heavy machinery". :mad:
It hurts my heart-muscle.
Negatory on that. on heavy machinery for me. was somethign i did at home. not while at work. and have given up on the drinkage as well. teh relief is worthless imho. can only legally work at home cannot use at work for obvious reasons. . teh health dept will NOT refer anyone to a pm doc. because the doc has the option of narcs. this HD does NOT prescribe narcs. and will NOT refer anyoen to a place that does. ( signs posted to this effect.) i get my insulin prescription here. if it werent for that id be out of htere. BUT so far i guess one could say im satisfied. even filled my anti prescription for me. but usually a 3 week minimum wait for an appointment. emergency or not 3 weeks. i could rant on that but its not worth it tbh. theyve got rules to abide by. set by whom id rather not know.
No, no, you're not satisfied.
You want proper treatment, and they're obviously not providing it. Pain management aside, more problems exist. You need to find a new doc, and you need one NOW.
You've got an open, infected wound on your leg, and they told you to come back in 20 days. Strike one. 5 days is too long.
Predictable, severely debilitating back pain without a proper course of treatment, strike two.
Leaving you feeling like you need to turn to narcotics, strike three.
Get into the free clinic for your leg, then b!tch your way through the HD until you find someone that listens. Or find an el cheapo and educate yourself. That's about all you've got, unless you wanna be an full-on alkie by Christmas.
And, you're right on the appointment times.
There's also a rule called "duty to act", and another against abandonment. Wait, no... it's law. Federal law supersedes local mandate, last time I checked (business law, fall semester, 08). And, in 3 weeks, you're gonna be frog-pube close to losing half your d@mn leg. So, whip that bad boy out at a HD registered nurse and just BREATHE the word "abandonment".
Mary knows what I'm talking about.
I'd still do the free clinic thing, though, if it's close enough.
That being said - you'd still have to pay for it. Which is why I'd get into the free clinic.
Whatever. I'm done for now. Fill me in with new developments. And pictures!
copy that on all the above. will call monday and get he ball rolling on the clinic link mary provided. thank you. like i said earlier been looking for info on that for ages it seems :bowdown: :bowdown: to both yall
Update requested. Where are my pictures?
Sucks being far away and not having resources. I could tell you whether it's staph pretty quick. Just a blood-agar smear with a bacitracin chip, autoclaved at 37 C for, say, 24 hours. Wouldn't do any good, but a lot cheaper than a biopsy. And, it'd find something that's cidal against it, without resorting to a 20-sided die.
Oh, and I want to know what's wrong with your back. How does it hurt, and what did you do to it? Cause, depending on what it is, a chiro or a DO could fix it in 15 minutes. Got a chance to learn more about it, just recently. I wanna share.
unfortunately im at ED again. pain a hard dull with sharp spikes 9/10, where normally 7/10. I Need to get it cultured and no staph proof. before i can work again. :( will update later via pm
Then you are probably going to be away from work for awhile. My bet is staph or MRSA. You donn't want MRSA.
Mary
ED says leg is fine. so ill take that for the time being. back was killing hard so i visited friends at a hotel they were at, sat in hot-tub for a few hours. got 40 mins of relief for that. for that 40 mins, for the first time in a half of a year, i was pain free. (ohh paradise :icon_mrgreen: ), THEN today, saw mr acetominophen again lol
lol then when shiite started again, was singing to myself, the themesong to mr rogers. lol, i laughed at
myself for that one. yall have seen my face. focus on that while imaging me singing that. lol. dammit!, did it again, ive rejacked the jackson thread. sorry mary :( ®
i could give a sh!t less about jackson. :2guns: :2guns: threadjack away yama, you mean more to me than jackson, i'd rather hear about what's going on with you than listen to people rant about what a tragedy it is that michael jackson is dead. :cheers:
meh o gotta quit doin that tho :( Lol
Lad ygpm as well sa an email