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Title: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Bridger on June 26, 2009, 10:04:39 PM
 :mad: :mad: My rear brakes squeal everytime I get on them coming to a stop, my bike has 450 miles on it, really really annoying. Any suggestions.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: jrains89 on June 26, 2009, 10:19:49 PM
i got mine with 256 miles on it, and it squeaked then. i'm pretty sure that they just all squeak. it pisses me off too.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Bridger on June 26, 2009, 10:21:02 PM
Will some aftermarket pads cure this?  I assume they would, and it would be worth the money to me....
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: qwertydude on June 26, 2009, 11:27:24 PM
I used a lot of rear brake til they were worn in and stopped squeaking. Short pads like the rears when thick tend to squeak, even worse was on my Honda rebel and fronts squeaked for the first couple few hundred miles til the brakes were broken in.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: nemuro on June 27, 2009, 04:30:24 AM
I have the same problem, only the squeak came after they started to wore down.

What brands do you recommend for the brake pads? Maximum performance for the low coin.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: joshr08 on June 27, 2009, 05:56:17 AM
kat 4.5 rear wheel swap and kat rotor no more squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueaakkking for my bike i never knew how bad it was til it didnt do it anymore.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: gsJack on June 27, 2009, 07:46:12 AM
Read this thread for my opinions, there have been many threads on GS500 rear brake squeal:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=30163.msg327995#msg327995
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: jrsgs5f on June 27, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
2 words.  Lithium grease.  It goes on the back side of the brake pad.  Mine squeaked like hell untill i put that on there.  Haven't made a peep since.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Bridger on June 27, 2009, 05:20:12 PM
Yeah, I always use lithium grease when I do brake jobs on cars.   I guess Suzuki can't afford a 'lil dab of grease on the back of the pads........ :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: mister on June 27, 2009, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Bridger on June 27, 2009, 05:20:12 PM
Yeah, I always use lithium grease when I do brake jobs on cars.   I guess Suzuki can't afford a 'lil dab of grease on the back of the pads........ :icon_sad:

The pad has six sides. A top and a bottom, one that faces to the front of the bike, one to the back, one to the disk and one away from the disk.

When you say - dab of grease on the back of the pads - I picture a dab of grease on the side of the pad which faces the rear of the bike and don't see how that would help anything.

Would you clarify please where this grease it to be placed?

Michael
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on June 27, 2009, 09:24:08 PM
MOLYKOTE® M-77 PASTE or Honda M-77 Assembly Paste (same thing) A little on the back of the pads and that's the opposite side from the lining. I am going on two years with no squealing from one application. It's a paste that's thicker than grease, does not wash away  :thumb:

Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: guitarking135 on June 27, 2009, 09:55:14 PM
take an air hose and pull the plastic cap off the caliper and blow the dust out of there every so often and it takes care of it.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Bridger on June 27, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
Lol. No dust on my bike.  it was in the showroom last week.  I guess I will tear into the brakes and smear some grease on the back of the pads......
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: BaltimoreGS on June 28, 2009, 06:14:09 AM
Not sure what's available in your neck of the woods but the auto dealership I work at here has a product called "Finishing Touch" by Auto Solutions.  It is an aerosol spray that is applied to the rotor, not the pads, so no dis-assembly is required.  When my girlfriend got her GS last year it squeaked really bad.  Tried that stuff on a whim and it hasn't squeaked since.


-JD
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Bridger on June 28, 2009, 09:08:20 AM
Good to know....
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: drincruz on June 28, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: joshr08 on June 27, 2009, 05:56:17 AM
kat 4.5 rear wheel swap and kat rotor no more squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueaakkking for my bike i never knew how bad it was til it didnt do it anymore.

actually yea same here. kat wheel swap and an aftermarket brake rotor and no more squeaking for me either!

must be the brake rotor. i put in my ebc rear brake pads not too long ago. stopped the squeaking for maybe the first 50 or so miles and then it came back to haunt me. just did the katana wheel swap with a new brake rotor and that's it.

so the expensive solution would to look into an aftermarket brake rotor. i'm yet to try any of the grease solutions though. and that would probably be cheaper.   :dunno_white:

g'luck.

cheers,
~drin
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: guitarking135 on June 28, 2009, 05:29:59 PM
I'm no mechanic but it seems to me that putting grease on your brakes would be a bad thing. if its a new bike you just need to wear the pads in mine did that for a couple tanks of gas then it went away.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: Bridger on June 28, 2009, 05:54:26 PM
Grease would go on the back of the pads.  Not a bad thing in any way, that's what normally is done when new pads are installed.  I just posted this because I was unsure if it was the piston or if it was cheap friction material that causes the squeaking.....
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: jrsgs5f on June 29, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: mister on June 27, 2009, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Bridger on June 27, 2009, 05:20:12 PM
Yeah, I always use lithium grease when I do brake jobs on cars.   I guess Suzuki can't afford a 'lil dab of grease on the back of the pads........ :icon_sad:

The pad has six sides. A top and a bottom, one that faces to the front of the bike, one to the back, one to the disk and one away from the disk.

When you say - dab of grease on the back of the pads - I picture a dab of grease on the side of the pad which faces the rear of the bike and don't see how that would help anything.

Would you clarify please where this grease it to be placed?

Michael


By the back of the pad i meant the side that the piston pushes against.  get it? 
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: bill14224 on June 29, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: drincruz on June 28, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: joshr08 on June 27, 2009, 05:56:17 AM
kat 4.5 rear wheel swap and kat rotor no more squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueaakkking for my bike i never knew how bad it was til it didnt do it anymore.

actually yea same here. kat wheel swap and an aftermarket brake rotor and no more squeaking for me either!

must be the brake rotor. i put in my ebc rear brake pads not too long ago. stopped the squeaking for maybe the first 50 or so miles and then it came back to haunt me. just did the katana wheel swap with a new brake rotor and that's it.

so the expensive solution would to look into an aftermarket brake rotor. i'm yet to try any of the grease solutions though. and that would probably be cheaper.   :dunno_white:

g'luck.

cheers,
~drin

How can it be the rotor when both rotors are the same and it's only the rear that squeaks?  If it ain't confusing enough already, on my Yamaha only the front squeaks.  :dunno_white:

Grease helps for awhile but eventually washes away.
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: drincruz on June 29, 2009, 07:28:30 PM
Quote from: bill14224 on June 29, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: drincruz on June 28, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: joshr08 on June 27, 2009, 05:56:17 AM
kat 4.5 rear wheel swap and kat rotor no more squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueaakkking for my bike i never knew how bad it was til it didnt do it anymore.

actually yea same here. kat wheel swap and an aftermarket brake rotor and no more squeaking for me either!

must be the brake rotor. i put in my ebc rear brake pads not too long ago. stopped the squeaking for maybe the first 50 or so miles and then it came back to haunt me. just did the katana wheel swap with a new brake rotor and that's it.

so the expensive solution would to look into an aftermarket brake rotor. i'm yet to try any of the grease solutions though. and that would probably be cheaper.   :dunno_white:

g'luck.

cheers,
~drin

How can it be the rotor when both rotors are the same and it's only the rear that squeaks?  If it ain't confusing enough already, on my Yamaha only the front squeaks.  :dunno_white:

Grease helps for awhile but eventually washes away.

i was just guessing since even with new brake pads it  still squeaked after 50 or so miles. and it stopped after the kat swap.  :dunno_white:

if it comes back, then well the GS is just haunted! hehe

cheers,
~drin
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: gsJack on June 29, 2009, 07:33:17 PM
Quote from: bill14224 on June 29, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: drincruz on June 28, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: joshr08 on June 27, 2009, 05:56:17 AM
kat 4.5 rear wheel swap and kat rotor no more squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueaakkking for my bike i never knew how bad it was til it didnt do it anymore.

actually yea same here. kat wheel swap and an aftermarket brake rotor and no more squeaking for me either!

must be the brake rotor. i put in my ebc rear brake pads not too long ago. stopped the squeaking for maybe the first 50 or so miles and then it came back to haunt me. just did the katana wheel swap with a new brake rotor and that's it.

so the expensive solution would to look into an aftermarket brake rotor. i'm yet to try any of the grease solutions though. and that would probably be cheaper.   :dunno_white:

g'luck.

cheers,
~drin

How can it be the rotor when both rotors are the same and it's only the rear that squeaks?  If it ain't confusing enough already, on my Yamaha only the front squeaks.  :dunno_white:

Grease helps for awhile but eventually washes away.

I agree, that's why I favor getting the squeak out by getting the rear wheel and caliper aligned properly.  Changing the rear wheel in the above cases probably resulted in better wheel/caliper alignment and eliminated the squeak.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=30163.msg327995#msg327995
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: mister on June 29, 2009, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: jrsgs5f on June 29, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: mister on June 27, 2009, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Bridger on June 27, 2009, 05:20:12 PM
Yeah, I always use lithium grease when I do brake jobs on cars.   I guess Suzuki can't afford a 'lil dab of grease on the back of the pads........ :icon_sad:

The pad has six sides. A top and a bottom, one that faces to the front of the bike, one to the back, one to the disk and one away from the disk.

When you say - dab of grease on the back of the pads - I picture a dab of grease on the side of the pad which faces the rear of the bike and don't see how that would help anything.

Would you clarify please where this grease it to be placed?

Michael


By the back of the pad i meant the side that the piston pushes against.  get it? 

Yes, thank you.

Michael
Title: Re: Rear brake squuuuueaakkk
Post by: drincruz on June 29, 2009, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: gsJack on June 29, 2009, 07:33:17 PM
Quote from: bill14224 on June 29, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: drincruz on June 28, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: joshr08 on June 27, 2009, 05:56:17 AM
kat 4.5 rear wheel swap and kat rotor no more squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueaakkking for my bike i never knew how bad it was til it didnt do it anymore.

actually yea same here. kat wheel swap and an aftermarket brake rotor and no more squeaking for me either!

must be the brake rotor. i put in my ebc rear brake pads not too long ago. stopped the squeaking for maybe the first 50 or so miles and then it came back to haunt me. just did the katana wheel swap with a new brake rotor and that's it.

so the expensive solution would to look into an aftermarket brake rotor. i'm yet to try any of the grease solutions though. and that would probably be cheaper.   :dunno_white:

g'luck.

cheers,
~drin

How can it be the rotor when both rotors are the same and it's only the rear that squeaks?  If it ain't confusing enough already, on my Yamaha only the front squeaks.  :dunno_white:

Grease helps for awhile but eventually washes away.

I agree, that's why I favor getting the squeak out by getting the rear wheel and caliper aligned properly.  Changing the rear wheel in the above cases probably resulted in better wheel/caliper alignment and eliminated the squeak.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=30163.msg327995#msg327995

interesting. i have been enlightened. thank you gsJack!  :thumb:

cheers,
~drin