http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1267724844.html
I wonder if it runs...
Does anyone know if PA. does lein sales for new titles?
i know in NJ it is a long drawn out process to get a title for a bike without one. If i recall correctly it will end up costing a few hundred dollars in certified mail and other fees from the state to go through the process and will easily take a month before getting a title if everything goes smoothly. Bike would most likely be better for a parts bike and just scrap the frame. Tempted to drive down to philly now.
I'm still trying to figure out how to cut off the kryptonite lock :technical:
fuk it..... I got in touch with the guy.... taking the sawzall up tonight after work...... think it will work?!
i got a sawsall with a rescue blade that will cut the lock off
Here is the pic for Krypto35 for those of you that hate links like me :mad:
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/rtarpley/4sale.jpg)
Not sure I know those damn things are tuff! Cut through the rim if you have to :thumb:
from looking at the picture you should be able to cut the lock using a sawsall without a problem just have a good metal cutting blade. You could probably even use a decent pair of bolt cutters if i am seeing the picture correctly.
Two people should be able to pick up the rear and get it to the street. Now getting it in the back of a truck...three + minimum unless Chanse comes. LMAO
you should just be able to roll it to the street with no problem. Getting it up on to a truck could prob be done with just 2 people. I am curious to find out what happens with this bike.
I'm not sure what lock you posted, but I have a couple kryptonie U locks and they're all hardened steel, so have fun with that.
Does it have a normal key hole, or is it one of the old barrel style keys? if it's the latter you're in luck, because you can pull the end out of a bic pen and use it as the key, there's videos on youtube about it somewhere.
I guess we will have to wait and see what Krypto35 does? And I wouldn't be telling people how to break locks on a motorcycle forum. We have enough scum bag bike theives out there as it is!
Just a thought tt_four
If someone has to come here to read on how to pick a lock then i have a feeling they won't be a very successful theif.
Liquid nitrogen and POW! with a BFH?
are they selling a stolen bike?
First of all thats BS.. there is a document you can get from the registration or dmv for abandoned vehicles over a certain amount of time you can legally own it. I dont trust it. Just because he says its not stolen EF THAT!! It's just not right!!! IMO
the VIN number is posted......
what can you do to look it up? Carfax???
Good question! I wonder if Buddha or one of the Moderators know?
Everyone is suggesting the big guns yet I have never seen a lock that can survive a dremel wheel or two.
OK I am all for the Dremel but you are assuming there is power available there qwertydude
Take a furniture dolly or a skateboard and bungie it to the back wheel- Leave it in gear. It'll roll well enough for you to move it.
Take help for the truck part and just muscle it....
$300 for a non titled bike is a little high. Get a Bill of Sale to CYA...
Buy a titled frame ( after you get it running and sure its all good..) and swap it over if you can't get a title.
Look up abandoned vehicle titles for your state....Here in MD it has to be 6 months ( I THINK )... You fill out a form with the dmv...send a registered letter to the last known registered owner...wait til it come s back undelivered ( or they reply )...if no reply you post an add about the bike in local paper (doesn't state which paper...so you can be creative...IE in papers that maybe not alot of people read..) for so many days...
If no reply I think you get it signed off to you.... Each state varies...
You may also ( if you know any Law Enforcement officers ) just get someone to run the vin for you and get the last know info and try to contact them...
Tell em they owe storage on the bike or in lieu of that - get a title to you. Or some variation of that....
Quote from: krypto35 on July 13, 2009, 01:18:16 PM
the VIN number is posted......
what can you do to look it up? Carfax???
I know in Ohio you can look up the vin on the bmv's website. You might want to check your states site.
I'd recommend taking the VIN to the local PD and asking them if it's stolen.
I wouldn't touch it, period. I got screwed over by an almost identical situation years ago. I bought an abandoned bike from landlord/friend that told me the bike had been left by a former tenant several months prior. Fast forward 2 months after I spent quite a bit of time working to get the bike roadworthy and about to go get it licensed and my so called friend calls me up to say the bikes former owner had showed up to pick up his bike, when he found it missing he called the police. I said that I had a bill of sale issued by the landlord for an abandoned vehicle, landlord denied it as he had been getting money from former owner for storing the bike. Needless to say it was my word against his, the police gave me the benefit of the doubt and did not press charges but I was out the price of the bike AND the repairs I made. Since the bike was all fixed up the owner would not consider selling it to me either. :mad:
Quote from: annguyen1981 on July 13, 2009, 05:11:47 PM
I'd recommend taking the VIN to the local PD and asking them if it's stolen.
Thank you ... voice of reason!!! I thought i was the only one here who thought this thread went the WRONG direction 300 bucks for a bike. seriously!! If there is nothing wrong with the bike... any smart person would legally own it by abandonment.... sell the bike for more that a measly 300 bucks!!! Now if I ever wanted to steal a bike WHICH I WOULD NEVER DO... i sure as "not heaven" would know where to come if I needed to know how!!!
Just because he says it's not stolen... that's like a woman saying she came everytime she had sex with you... and we know that .... well take that how you want to!!!!
Quote from: rydethis on July 13, 2009, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on July 13, 2009, 05:11:47 PM
I'd recommend taking the VIN to the local PD and asking them if it's stolen.
Thank you ... voice of reason!!! I thought i was the only one here who thought this thread went the WRONG direction 300 bucks for a bike. seriously!! If there is nothing wrong with the bike... any smart person would legally own it by abandonment.... sell the bike for more that a measly 300 bucks!!! Now if I ever wanted to steal a bike WHICH I WOULD NEVER DO... i sure as "not heaven" would know where to come if I needed to know how!!!
Just because he says it's not stolen... that's like a woman saying she came everytime she had sex with you... and we know that .... well take that how you want to!!!!
I believe it was Jerry Seinfeld that said something like:
"Here's our (men) take on women faking orgams... we're fine with it"
lmao
Well if that's all you got out of my post... well no wonder they started a thread to try to get you laid!! :thumb:
Quote from: rydethis on July 13, 2009, 07:11:59 PM
Well if that's all you got out of my post... well no wonder they started a thread to try to get you laid!! :thumb:
rotflmfao
:cheers: :cheers: :icon_lol:
ha, nice, guys.
Anyway, decided against wasting my time driving into the city to struggle with this bike. The guy is set on getting $300 for it. I told him I'd come remove it for him for free... didn't think he'd go for it, and he didn't. Too much of a hassle and danger. O well..... I do have MY current GS up for sale though.... fully modded, slightly banged up from learning.... but still a decent ride with many extra parts.... new tires, brakes, oil..... $1700 obo
Quote from: qwertydude on July 13, 2009, 01:32:55 PM
Everyone is suggesting the big guns yet I have never seen a lock that can survive a dremel wheel or two.
$20 angle grinder + $4 worth of abrasive wheel = no more lock. or no more fork. or no more tar. hell, nothing can withstand the powa of angle grinders besides chuck norris.
either way, someone is going to loose a bike soon.
Quote from: qwertydude on July 13, 2009, 01:32:55 PM
Everyone is suggesting the big guns yet I have never seen a lock that can survive a dremel wheel or two.
Ditto. Read of one guy who had Hardened Steel Chain locked his bike to some pedestrian handrails things. In the morning the bike was gone, the handrail was not damaged. There was a pile of grinding metal. Ease as with a portable grinder.
There is also a vid on Youtube of a bike getting stolen in all of 20 seconds. Disk lock on the front. Minivan drives by at 15 seconds in, reverses and pulls up. Guy gets out, walks along the path to the bike. Van drives next to bike, another guy gets out and they lift the front into the van. Second guy then lifts the back in, hops in himself, and off the van drives. Vid goes for 4 minutes - but the actual theft-in-action is all of 20 seconds, the rest is the slow lead up to how the thieves Cased the bike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96QM-lzLM8
But a guy who supposedly Lost the key - and back up key - to a krypton lock. That's red flags raised to me.
Michael
For those of you wondering.. I ran a check on this VIN and it is not valid. So either the person trying to sell it on CL is an dyslexic idiot or the bike is stolen!
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/rtarpley/7-14-200910-58-15AM.jpg)
Run it yourself if you like :thumb:
I'm not experienced with VIN's, but aren't M/C vins different than cage vins? I could be completely wrong tho.
That VIN was missing a character.... seller got back to me with this one :
JS1GM51A2T2100384
anyone wanna pull a report or know where to get a free one? I started the carfax process and got to "There are 2 records for this VIN" and I assumed that's a bad thing.... cuz all my other bike VINs only had 1 record
having a carfax that says it has 2 records doesn't necesarily mean a bad thing. I could have just had 2 owners cause each title transfer i believe is 1 record.
Under that number I found the following:
Vehicle Record Summary VIN: JS1GM51A2T2100384 We found 1 record(s) for this vehicle
Year: 1996 Style/Body: Unspecified
Make: Suzuki Motorcycle Engine: Unspecified
Model: Street Gs500e Country of Assembly: Japan
how are you running the VIN? is there some free service you're using or do you have access through work or something?
I just visited my local PD. They said that in order for me to check to see if a bike is stolen or not, I have to visit the RMV. I would imagine it'd be the same in all the states.
You can run VIN's at several sites like http://www.vinquery.com/
http://www.autobaza.pl/
But in order to find out more info you must pay the scum sucking sites like carfax and autocheck. They can KMA!
It should be of public record and no scum bags should be making money off of it IMHO!
Quote from: JB848 on July 14, 2009, 09:30:55 AM
It should be of public record and no scum bags should be making money off of it IMHO!
I think it is of public record, but since every state has their own way of storing/retrieving the information, it would be difficult for the public to get the data. So Carfax and others do the hard work, and get paid for the work - not the data.
Of course that is just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions....
You make my point exactly! Instead of some inside croney that knows Bubba getting easy access there should be a nationwide free database for all to search! For Free!
Instead of paying some lazy loser to work for the state or Gov and fill out paper work create a data base and force Motor Vehicles of all states to keep it current!
Quote from: JB848 on July 14, 2009, 11:53:32 AM
Instead of paying some lazy loser to work for the state or Gov and fill out paper work create a data base and force Motor Vehicles of all states to keep it current!
Hey! I work for the state! I yell more for calling me a lazy loser, but as you can obviously tell.... it's 3pm and I'm browsing the GStwins forum....
At the same time, I'm pretty much caught up on my work as well, and that's considering we've been on a hiring freeze since October, so we've got twice as much work, and half the amount of workers as we should
OK excluding you then Happy?
Quotethere should be a nationwide free database for all to search! For Free!
Nothing is free. Increased taxes would be required. And I ain't payin'.
Quote from: JB848 on July 14, 2009, 12:08:08 PM
OK excluding you then Happy?
Yes, because there are a LOT of lazy people here, who do nothing and still have a job.
Lazy people working for the State? Say it ain't so!
Robert
did he get it?
I'd be up there in a heartbeat
As far as I know no one wants to touch it cause they don't know if it is stolen legal or otherwise!