Last Wednesday i was commuting to work as usual. I was on the left most lane doing 80kms and my lane was empty. Suddenly a car on the right lane that was around 5 meters away from me puts it's left blinker on and merges to my Lane and stops in order to to go into a petrol station. I braked hard, the bike skid a bit but i never lost control and since it was raining and i was tooo close to the car, i hit it straight in the back ... I went flying over the car and landed on my back... :icon_sad:
The good news is that i wasn't hurt, just soft tissue injuries, nothing broken... Thank god for helmets and leather jackets :)
Insurance called today and the bike is a total loss but again no big deal, i have comprehensive insurance :)
The bright side of things, Insurance is replacing it with a brand new one :D
Cheers everyone,ride safe and ALWAYS wear full gear no matter how short your ride is :)
YOU have comprehensive insurance?? What about the guy who pulled infront of you and slammed on his brakes?? How's his insurance? I would expect him to have atleast GSXR750 quality insurance, maybe even z1000 quality insurance....
You are at fault if you hit someone in the rear.
I don't know how the law works where you live but generally if there is a rear end accident you are at fault in the US. Is that the case here?
Quote from: cafeboy on July 17, 2009, 07:15:23 AM
You are at fault if you hit someone in the rear.
I wish this false statement would die, someday. You may have to sue, but you have a very good chance of wining this type of situation. "Swoop and squat" may be what you'll want to google.
Glad you're ok, rider.
Yeah, if you just rear end someone that's your fault, but if someone pulls right infront of you and stomps on their brakes, that's completely their fault. Did you explain the situation to your insurance company, because I'm sure they'd be more than happy to make the other guys insurance pay for the repairs, instead of themselves. On the other hand, if you stood up and said "whoa, sorry man, my fault", then you're probably stuck. He'll probably say he didn't pull anywhere near you, and that you were just going sooooo fast that you didn't have time to react.
If you find this to not be true, I'm going to take my wife's nissan versa out onto the highway, pull 3 inches infront of someone an slam on my brakes, and see how much I can sue them for, so let me know what you find out.
Quote from: ohgood on July 17, 2009, 08:12:33 AM
Quote from: cafeboy on July 17, 2009, 07:15:23 AM
You are at fault if you hit someone in the rear.
I wish this false statement would die, someday. You may have to sue, but you have a very good chance of wining this type of situation. "Swoop and squat" may be what you'll want to google.
Glad you're ok, rider.
No point ever saying any thing here if you are in a thread.
Go back and read the post, the car used signals.
That's all I will say on this thread.
Good bye.
Glad you are ok as well Paulf
If that guy was cited for unsafe lane change, its his fault, otherwise you ahve to make a big federal case of it ...
Hitting his rear quarter panel = his fault for not checking blind spot. Booya ... no question there.
Cool.
Buddha.
I'm just glad you're ok.
-Porkchop
That's the time to swerve into the lane he's vacated rather than braking. The instinct is to brake, ja, but swerving takes much less distance and traction, provided there's an escape path (which, on the street, there almost always is - the shoulder, a gap between cars, etc). That's where training comes in. I'm a big fan of spending time now and then in a parking lot practicing swerving as well as emergency braking, so you can do it without hesitation when the situation demands.
Protect that nice new bike of yours, and glad you're OK!
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 17, 2009, 10:07:01 AM
Protect that nice new bike of yours, and glad you're OK!
+1 :thumb:
rider down threads suck.
Quote from: Dr.Sparkie on July 17, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 17, 2009, 10:07:01 AM
Protect that nice new bike of yours, and glad you're OK!
+1 :thumb:
rider down threads suck.
But we love to hear that the rider walked away threads every time right? :thumb:
Quote from: JB848 on July 17, 2009, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: Dr.Sparkie on July 17, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 17, 2009, 10:07:01 AM
Protect that nice new bike of yours, and glad you're OK!
+1 :thumb:
rider down threads suck.
But we love to hear that the rider walked away threads every time right? :thumb:
yep! :thumb:
glad to hear your ok dude.
PaulF - You're a european driver - UK, or the other end of the globe - Australian (or another country that drives on the left). Guy cut you up and you smacked him in the rear. His fault. You were in the right. f%$k questions about the insurance. You're getting a brand new bike and you're not too badly hurt (I hope :o) - RESULT!! :D :D :D :D
Enjoy your new bike and get over the trauma quick :thumb:
Bassman :)
f%$k, PaulF!!! I just re-read your post and overlooked that you had actually FLOWN OVER THE CAR AND LANDED ON YOUR BACK!!!!.
That is serious shaZam!!!! :o :o :o :o
Sorry, I read it all so fast!!! Glad you're OK and enjoy your new bike!!!!
Bassman :embarrassed:
The good side is you're here posting, and insurance is replacing the bike.
way I see it, the other driver should be considered at fault for whipping right over and slamming on the brakes in front of you. maybe a video camera on your bike isnt a bad idea. its hard to lie when the video says exactly what happened.
Quote from: bobthebiker on July 17, 2009, 02:32:59 PM
The good side is you're here posting, and insurance is replacing the bike.
way I see it, the other driver should be considered at fault for whipping right over and slamming on the brakes in front of you. maybe a video camera on your bike isn't a bad idea. its hard to lie when the video says exactly what happened.
OH My god if all bikes had cameras there would be no drivers of 4 wheelers left. They would get so many tickets. I had this idiot lady yesterday at a light turn left right in front of me and gave me a dirty look as she did it. It was all I could do to down shift apply max front brake while swerving to miss her! Luckily there wasn't another idiot trying to do the same thing I would have had no where to go!
Any hoo just glad to hear he is OK and alive to ride another day. It's us against them it always has been. The thing is we're smarter and better looking no matter what country you ride in :thumb:
Cheers everyone and thanks for your concern :)
The police said that initially i am not at fault since she cut my lane and braked just meters in front of me.
@Cafeboy, a car driver using his signals and not checking his mirrors means he is at fault mate. If that lady checked one of her 3 mirrors she would have seen me :icon_sad:
A Camera is a good idea i think!! I'm gonna look into this ASAP!!!
My bike is already in an auction, i'm gonna try and get it back :D
Again, thanks for you concern guys and ride safe.
Well my friend, You need to edit your first post before someone see that you stated " I was too close"
That's from the post mate "Suddenly a car on the right lane that was around 5 meters away from me puts it's left blinker on and merges to my Lane and stop" ...
5 meters away... :icon_confused:
What I am saying is this is a public forum and from a legal standpoint, it CAN be said that you admitted fault by saying "I was too close to the car"
I was just saying you should edit that out.
Any way, glad you are ok.
:cheers:
Well i also stated that my lane was empty so it should be fine ;) and point definitely taken , cheers and thanks for that :cheers:
An insurance company could never really prove it's really him on the forum anyhow.
Uhm, yeah they can. Just trace the ISP!
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on July 20, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
Uhm, yeah they can. Just trace the ISP!
Mary
Unless he has a trace buster.
of course they might have the trace buster buster.
Quote from: PaulF on July 20, 2009, 03:44:26 PM
My bike is already in an auction, i'm gonna try and get it back :D
I need to find some of these locally when I'm ready to buy a new bike. I pass an impound lot on the way home and aften stop to check out the bikes through the fence.
I remember all the sheriff's auctions on foreclosed houses when i was looking to buy a house, and was pretty discusted by it all. I would never be able to buy a house off of a bank that took it back from the people they gave a loan to when they knew they couldn't afford it in the first place, even if they were selling $100,000 houses for $3,000. A motorcycle on the other hand.... I'd have no guilt in taking some guys ride if he got it impounded for riding around without insurance and an inspection, or even just a second hand insurance bike that was already paid out.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on July 20, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
Uhm, yeah they can. Just trace the ISP!
Mary
And they would have to get it from gstwin. And they would have to get documents from the ISP. And then prove he did it, what if he has wireless internet? Someone could be posting as him. He also could be on a proxy or VPN.
And whats that thing that you can't prove yourself guilty?
Quote from: Skeets on July 21, 2009, 09:30:25 AMAnd whats that thing that you can't prove yourself guilty?
That thing like the Fifth Amendment?
QuoteNo person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
You're not required to testify against yourself, but if you volunteer the information, that's your choice. I don't know if the US constitution is relevant here, though. :icon_razz:
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 21, 2009, 09:46:13 AM
Quote from: Skeets on July 21, 2009, 09:30:25 AMAnd whats that thing that you can't prove yourself guilty?
That thing like the Fifth Amendment?
QuoteNo person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
You're not required to testify against yourself, but if you volunteer the information, that's your choice. I don't know if the US constitution is relevant here, though. :icon_razz:
Nothing he said could be proven he said it. And it would cost thousands of dollars to prove he said it. They would have to go to court and get a subpoena for this site to give the IP address, then they would have to get another subpoena for his ISP and most ISP's charge thousands of dollars to give logs of internet usage. I know Comcast charges law enforcement agencies $1500 for logs if they ask for them. Then they must prove that he typed it, which they really can't do unless then they get notice from a judge to seize his computer, which still doesn't prove he typed it :)
Quote from: Skeets on July 21, 2009, 09:30:25 AM
And they would have to get it from gstwin. And they would have to get documents from the ISP. And then prove he did it, what if he has wireless internet? Someone could be posting as him. He also could be on a proxy or VPN.
And whats that thing that you can't prove yourself guilty?
He left the GStwin page up and he was still logged in.
I typed it all. :thumb:
Quote from: tt_four on July 21, 2009, 10:12:31 AM
Quote from: Skeets on July 21, 2009, 09:30:25 AM
And they would have to get it from gstwin. And they would have to get documents from the ISP. And then prove he did it, what if he has wireless internet? Someone could be posting as him. He also could be on a proxy or VPN.
And whats that thing that you can't prove yourself guilty?
He left the GStwin page up and he was still logged in. I typed it all. :thumb:
There you go ;)
You must be nieve to think that lawyers won't spend $1,000 to save $500!
I get about three letters a week from a collection agency and a phone call everyday for a $3.45 bill. This has been going on for about 4 years now. Imagine how much money they have put into trying to make $4!
Mary