hey im just wondering if there are anymore upgrades for my 2007 gs500f for some more power
i already have-
yoshi tri oval exhaust
rejetted
k&n filter
irridium plugs
i have a 15t front sprocket, i just have to put it on
Also i was wondering if there are any power restrictions on my bike as i have seen in other countries there are.
im in australia by the way
You've pretty much done everything you can to make it faster apart from suspension mods. The only thing left is cracking open the motor and doing headwork, boring out etc which is an expensive exercise.
There's no limiting on the Aus bikes.
At some point, in the quest for more and more power, one needs to ask themself if they should upgrade bikes.
A simple cost benifit anlysis would be prudent before cracking open the engine and dropping serious money on headwork and boring. Also, I believe that the more you modify, especially serious mods, the more you impact the future resale value potential for your bike.
The mods you have made, exhaust, jets, filter, plugs and sprocket are all great mods and desirable on resale. If you need more power I would sell the GS and buy a SS bike. Now can I buy your exhaust :wink:
Do a track day or three. Then ride some more. Then be worried about more power. No matter how much power you've got, if you're not a good enough rider to put it to the ground, it is all worthless.
If you drop the 15T on and lose 15 lbs, it'll outrun a bunch of bikes!
Quote from: Alphamazing on July 21, 2009, 06:45:02 AM
Do a track day or three. Then ride some more. Then be worried about more power. No matter how much power you've got, if you're not a good enough rider to put it to the ground, it is all worthless.
Amen
Vance & Hines modified an early model GS500 with their V & H exhaust, intake and carb mods, and installed a Wiseco 555cc piston kit. These expensive modifications raised the performance of the GS500 to the level of an EX500. If you want EX500 aka Ninja 500R performance just buy the EX500 to start with and go enjoy it as is. Now priced at $400-500 lower list price than the GS500F.
Best upgrade for a bike like the GS500 is learning how to ride it well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/GS500tests.jpg
Quote from: gsJack on July 21, 2009, 07:53:06 AM
Best upgrade for a bike like the GS500 is learning how to ride it well.
As I am learning now. Within the last couple of months I have stopped worrying about the power as I know that it is a GS and not made to outrun anything, lol. I have been enjoying how it handles lately. That is more fun to carve up a road then go 100 mph.
i was looking at a gsxr600 a while back and thinking "that motor would probably fit without too much hammering".
that'd make our bikes get up and go a bit better
If you haven't upgraded your suspension and brakes, start there. If you haven't upgraded the rider, do that next.
Quote from: O.C.D. on July 21, 2009, 08:04:12 AM
Quote from: gsJack on July 21, 2009, 07:53:06 AM
Best upgrade for a bike like the GS500 is learning how to ride it well.
As I am learning now. Within the last couple of months I have stopped worrying about the power as I know that it is a GS and not made to outrun anything, lol. I have been enjoying how it handles lately. That is more fun to carve up a road then go 100 mph.
exactly! :thumb:
someone i know just got his PERMIT (yes, permit only) and is boasting about him getting his bike up to 100mph already. but yet, i'm sure he can't handle hard leaning yet. sheesh. anyone can twist the throttle!
ride smart. stay safe.
cheers,
~drin
Quote from: Dr.Sparkie on July 21, 2009, 08:33:19 AM
i was looking at a gsxr600 a while back and thinking "that motor would probably fit without too much hammering".
Yeah, no.
Oh man, I remember the first time I hit 85mph on my 1983 dual sport when I was 17. I thought I was going to die. I can't even imagine starting out on a 600. Granted, it's easier to go 100+ mph on a 600 sportbike than it is to go 85 on an 83 dual sport, but still, I never would've made it out alive.
You can only get so far with the speed upgrades, at some point you just have to accept that you've got 40hp and there's not much you can do about it. I geared bike down, a lot. It doesn't go over 100mph anymore, but it doesn't need to. I plan on sticking to back roads or riding slowly through town so it works out fine.
1: remove everything but the gas cap.
2: install a 600 inline 4 sportbike under the gascap.
3. done.
Or enjoy it for what it is, which is a nice bike with 40-45 hp at the max. If you want 100 hp, you want a different bike. However, 100 hp does not magically make you a good rider...
A variation on Dodis suggestion......
1) Remove GS500 from the license plate.
2) Fit a 600cc in-line 4 sportbike of personal choice to the plate.
3) Job done :thumb:
Speed/power and kicks are seperate entities. Looking back my fave bike was a 1978 XL125....all 9hp of it.
Quote from: DoD#i on July 21, 2009, 10:52:01 AM
Or enjoy it for what it is, which is a nice bike with 40-45 hp at the max. If you want 100 hp, you want a different bike. However, 100 hp does not magically make you a good rider...
Just because you appear to not be following the other thread which is somewhat similar to this one....
100hp doesn't make you a better rider, but it does attract babes, and that's what's important.
I would say chicks dig fairings more so than horsepower. if it LOOKS fast, they are impressed.
so my reccomendation is to take 600cc inline 4 sportbike FAIRINGS of your choice and duct tape to gs500. Tell the ladies you'll "take it easy" for them ;)
Quote from: Dr.Sparkie on July 21, 2009, 12:34:45 PM
I would say chicks dig fairings more so than horsepower. if it LOOKS fast, they are impressed.
so my reccomendation is to take 600cc inline 4 sportbike FAIRINGS of your choice and duct tape to gs500. Tell the ladies you'll "take it easy" for them ;)
Let me tell you... girls can tell the difference between a GS500 and a GSX-R. The GS500F looks funny and awkward. It's pretending to be something it's not, and it's painfully obvious.
Motorcycles - they are only about looking cool. :icon_rolleyes:
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Let me tell you... girls can tell the difference between a GS500 and a GSX-R. The GS500F looks funny and awkward. It's pretending to be something it's not, and it's painfully obvious.
Motorcycles - they are only about looking cool. :icon_rolleyes:
Disagree -- GS500F does not look funny or awkward.. it is focking beautiful when modded correctly. I have gotten lots of "nice bike..what is that.." comment. Even though it blatantly says GS500F on my fairing... i still have to tell them its a suzuki GS500F.
Quote from: Alphamazing on July 21, 2009, 01:51:25 PMLet me tell you... girls can tell the difference between a GS500 and a GSX-R.
And they can tell the difference between a competent rider on an underpowered bike and a doofus on an I-4 race replica. :icon_lol: :flipoff:
(http://bosshossmotorcycle.com/bikepics/02-boss-hoss-1_big.jpg)
Just buy one of these. Seems like the next logical upgrade to a GS500 to me...
you have a yoshi pipe? theres your problem. get like me
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/redhen2/SSPX0480.jpg)
itll give you at least .5 hp over the yoshi and it looks badass.
did i mention it shoots flames?
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 21, 2009, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: Alphamazing on July 21, 2009, 01:51:25 PMLet me tell you... girls can tell the difference between a GS500 and a GSX-R.
And they can tell the difference between a competent rider on an underpowered bike and a doofus on an I-4 race replica. :icon_lol: :flipoff:
I don't know, the girls tend to come running when the trash from down the street pulls up on his R6 wearing shorts, a wife beater, and timberlands, and I bet he can't ride one bit.
On the other hand, if you're after girls, what's the point in being a competent rider? you'll hit a couple twisty turns and never see them again.... It really is more useful to be able to speed past them going 125 every redlight, and just have them pull back up next to you in time for the light to turn green again.
I already know the answer to my question but here goes anyway. (Rhetorical)
What purpose does it serve to go above 70 on any street or highway? I can understand power when passing on a highway but.........really? :dunno_white:
I dunno on my daily commute on the Almighty Hwy 264 East to Greenville and back, if you ain't runnin' 80 you are causing a problem. Then there is stoplight to stoplight vs. your local Mustang GT crowd. (Yes the GS will spank a stock Mustang GT.....badly)
Whoa! Wait! What? I'm not riding a Gixxer? But the sales man said...... I really don't need a chick magnent for obvious reasons! I dunno I guess I'm not upgrading until I can get everything I possibly can out of Flick. Weather that is another six months or three years. Hopefully the later when it is paid off!
Honestly, I haven't found anything I "have" to have yet. Although, the FXr6 (I think) that I sat on today was nice. Or the the GS650F would seem like a logical step up. I mean it was really nice when I went to a bike meet a little over a week ago to have the only GS there. Now there were 8 gixxers and 9 Busas with 3 almost completely identical. I mean who wants to be like the Sheeple :whisper: ?
Mary
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 21, 2009, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: Alphamazing on July 21, 2009, 01:51:25 PMLet me tell you... girls can tell the difference between a GS500 and a GSX-R.
And they can tell the difference between a competent rider on an underpowered bike and a doofus on an I-4 race replica. :icon_lol: :flipoff:
What about a hoon on a supermoto? Do chicks dig that?
...
Maybe that's why I'm single.
Damn.
Quote from: tt_four on July 21, 2009, 06:38:04 PMI don't know, the girls tend to come running when the trash from down the street pulls up on his R6 wearing shorts, a wife beater, and timberlands, and I bet he can't ride one bit.
And are those the kind of girl you want to impress? If you just want poon, any bike will do; if you want high-maintenance poon, I-4 race replica; if you want someone to ride with and have fun with, riding skills are a big plus.
Quote from: Alphamazing on July 21, 2009, 07:32:46 PMWhat about a hoon on a supermoto? Do chicks dig that?
I married a hoon on a supermoto. Sliding the rear and hopping curbs is hawt. :)
(http://www.roadstergal.info/6_15_08/2825.jpg)
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
And are those the kind of girl you want to impress? If you just want poon, any bike will do; if you want high-maintenance poon, I-4 race replica; if you want someone to ride with and have fun with, riding skills are a big plus.
haha, not me, they're all 16 years old and half are pushing strollers already. They terrify me.
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
Sliding the rear and hopping curbs is hawt. :)
Sliding out the rear is hot, huh?
Didn't think that one through fully, didja?
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
And are those the kind of girl you want to impress? If you just want poon, any bike will do; if you want high-maintenance poon, I-4 race replica; if you want someone to ride with and have fun with, riding skills are a big plus.
I dated high-maintenance poon once. It was fun for awhile though. Fortunately, Uncle Sam saw fit to send me elsewhere before I could lose my mind and marry her...
Quote from: Alphamazing on July 22, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
Sliding the rear and hopping curbs is hawt. :)
Sliding out the rear is hot, huh?
Didn't think that one through fully, didja?
Did it occur to you that she
completely thought that one through? :o
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
Sliding the rear and hopping curbs is hawt. :)
Honestly, terribly awesome puns aside, my backwheel tried to get ahead of my front wheel yesterday. I was going way too fast for the freshly wet roads, and the guy in front of me's tail lights weren't working. As I noticed he was slowing, I really had to bring my speed down, and I locked up my rear brake in the process. Next thing I know, my rear wheel starts swinging out to my right. Wah, not a fun feeling. I still have no clue how I kept my balance. Anyway, luckily my MSF training kicked in immediately and I let off, and let the wheel go back behind me. I did the same thing again. Eh, I just have a tendency to use too much rear brake.
Uh, as for becoming a more experienced rider, I was blowing off some steam after work today in some twisties and I realized I went into the very last bend with way too much speed. Luckily, counter-steering works no matter how idiotic the driver is, and I lowered the bike lower than I ever thought I could. I sailed right through the turn perfectly, but I scared the hell out of myself in the process. As I got home and checked the chicken strips out, my left-side strip is probably half as wide as my right side, haha.
So basically I'm just trying to validate what everyone's saying here. Increase in HP doesn't mean an increase in driver skill. When you've comfortable scraping pegs and controlling every aspect of the bike, then try for an upgrade.
Personally, I wasn't too happy with the look of the GS500E when I bought it, but I think I've grown attached to it. I mean, it really looks like nothing else out there. Girls my age just seem to know that it's a motorcycle, hah. I mean, I've taken a few passengers for little rides around the block and whatnot, and I don't think I'm much of a fan of passengers. It's much more enjoyable when you're able to flick it around yourself, without worrying whether she fell off or not, haha.
Sorry for the short post...
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 22, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
If you just want poon, any bike will do; if you want high-maintenance poon, I-4 race replica; if you want someone to ride with and have fun with, riding skills are a big plus.
LOL :D That's the most hilarious thing I've heard all day and I laughed a lot today, I'm hoping to fall into the final category.
Quote from: PaviSays on July 22, 2009, 10:36:30 PM
I still have no clue how I kept my balance. Anyway, luckily my MSF training kicked in immediately and I let off, and let the wheel go back behind me. I did the same thing again.
Glad it all worked out for you and I've instinctively had the same reaction in similar situations, but I'm pretty sure the last thing you want when the rear slides is for it to abruptly return to its proper position (Highside anyone?). I'm guess you weren't going at highway speeds when this happened.
Quote from: PaviSays on July 22, 2009, 10:36:30 PM
Personally, I wasn't too happy with the look of the GS500E when I bought it, but I think I've grown attached to it. I mean, it really looks like nothing else out there. Girls my age just seem to know that it's a motorcycle, hah. I mean, I've taken a few passengers for little rides around the block and whatnot, and I don't think I'm much of a fan of passengers. It's much more enjoyable when you're able to flick it around yourself, without worrying whether she fell off or not, haha.
I've always liked the look of the early 90's GSXR 750 and 1100, and the more I look at my bike and see how similar the frame looks, the more I like the way the GS looks. Now I just need to find a Ducati/Mito tail to make it look just right.
Anyway, That used to be my favorite part about having a seat cowl. Even though the rear seat was right under it, I would always just say "I can't take you for a ride, I don't have the back seat". Some of my friends were great at riding on the back, but some people are just awful. I had a couple friends I could take for rides and not even feel them on the back of the bike. Other people just feel like you poorly bungied a couple sacks of potatoes to the back seat.
Quote from: tt_four on July 23, 2009, 04:34:18 AM
Other people just feel like you poorly bungied a couple sacks of potatoes to the back seat.
+1, almost every person I have ever ridden with (male OR female, but it seems to be more of an issue with girls :dunno_white:) INSISTS on leaning in the opposite direction that I do, and it has almost caused several 'incidents'. It's even worse when they try to hang on to the 12-bar instead of me. That REALLY throws the balance off. :mad:
Dirt is the absolute best way to learn bike control. :thumb: Backing it in properly is about coming in hard on the front brake to lighten the rear and easing out the cluch with the downshifts - the rear kicks around and helps the bike turn. Locking the rear is just letting it fishtail.
And ja... the best passengers are good riders, and they're the people who like to ride pillion the least. A pillion seat is a convenience, not a way of life - IMO.
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 23, 2009, 09:25:42 AM
Dirt is the absolute best way to learn bike control. :thumb: Backing it in properly is about coming in hard on the front brake to lighten the rear and easing out the cluch with the downshifts - the rear kicks around and helps the bike turn. Locking the rear is just letting it fishtail.
Haha, you dirtbike folk are crazy. As someone who's always only ridden on pavement, I prefer to keep my back wheel planted on the ground, whether it's the back tire just kicking around or locking it up.
Redhen: Maybe if you put some pavement scratched in that bar they'd keep their hands off of it. With how shiny and spotless that thing is, they can't do anything but assume it's there for their hands.... :flipoff:
Quote from: tt_four on July 23, 2009, 10:50:08 AM
Redhen: Maybe if you put some pavement scratched in that bar they'd keep their hands off of it. With how shiny and spotless that thing is, they can't do anything but assume it's there for their hands.... :flipoff:
OUCH. I see how it is Jackhole. So yeah it doesnt really serve a purpose for now. I'm running on one cylinder, give me a break. But as soon as my 14t front and 45t rear come in I should be able to put it some use. My cbr didnt need new gears to pop 12 o'clock . . . . just sayin . . . .
Haha, I'm not picking on you. I've never picked up a bike that far, and don't intend to. My GS is also geared at 14-47. My tail light has some scratches on it, but they're not from me. I bought the light used, and the kid I got it from must've been dragging it on the ground.
You gotta love the boss hoss.... Nothing like 100mph in first gear, if you need a little more theres only another gear to go. Those things are pretty mean. Im sure it cant beat a turbo busa or even a GSXR1000 but probably still pretty fun to drive...
Quote from: XealotX on July 21, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
(http://bosshossmotorcycle.com/bikepics/02-boss-hoss-1_big.jpg)
Just buy one of these. Seems like the next logical upgrade to a GS500 to me...
Quote from: Bluesmudge on July 23, 2009, 12:43:20 AM
Glad it all worked out for you and I've instinctively had the same reaction in similar situations, but I'm pretty sure the last thing you want when the rear slides is for it to abruptly return to its proper position (Highside anyone?). I'm guess you weren't going at highway speeds when this happened.
Probably just below highway speeds, but it wasn't as abrupt as I probably made it seem, hah. Weird sensation though.
Quote from: Chanse on July 23, 2009, 12:01:52 PM
You gotta love the boss hoss.... Nothing like 100mph in first gear, if you need a little more theres only another gear to go. Those things are pretty mean. Im sure it cant beat a turbo busa or even a GSXR1000 but probably still pretty fun to drive...
I'd really like to try one of those Triumph Rocket IIIs, they look like they'd be fun to ride, just not all the time.
I read a review of the new ZX10r that said that bike goes 115mph or more in 1st gear. Never tried it out, as I don't have access to a zx10r, but it's still a pretty crazy thought.
I knew a guy that had two Boss Hoss and used to get real annoyed at kids on sportbikes who would try to give him a hard time on the highway, he'd always have to show them the business. I don't know what I'd do if I flew past some guy on a cruiser, looked in my mirror, and saw him right on my tail not letting go.
Quote from: tt_four on July 23, 2009, 10:50:08 AMHaha, you dirtbike folk are crazy. As someone who's always only ridden on pavement, I prefer to keep my back wheel planted on the ground, whether it's the back tire just kicking around or locking it up.
But that's the thing - sooner or later, you will reach the limits of traction. It may be pushing it around a corner, it may be due to a spill of coolant in the road, it may be a hot tar snake, it may be a freak rainstorm, it may be gravel... there are just too many variables out there for you to be 100% in a safe zone 100% of the time.
If you're in dirt, the bar to traction loss is very, very low. You'll lose traction when you're going slowly, and you'll learn how to deal with it properly - and even more importantly, how to not panic or tense up, and just relax and deal with it - when speeds are low and crashes have little consequence.
There's a reason that many top-tier racers started out in the dirt. If you're going to control a 1000cc superbike or a MotoGP bike at the limits of traction, it really helps if you already know how to control a sliding bike.
And it makes you safer on the street, which is never predictable. :)
Now that I've done my PSA - did someone say Rocket III?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEuzxC4eGc
Quote from: Roadstergal on July 24, 2009, 09:24:31 AM
Now that I've done my PSA - did someone say Rocket III?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEuzxC4eGc
wow that brake test was scary... :D
Quote from: tt_four on July 23, 2009, 01:55:42 PM
I read a review of the new ZX10r that said that bike goes 115mph or more in 1st gear. Never tried it out, as I don't have access to a zx10r, but it's still a pretty crazy thought.
There's a handful of bikes out there that will do 100mph in first but you gotta remember your screamin at 13-14,000 RPM not good in a sustained atmosphere... lol
Quote from: gs500f2007 on July 21, 2009, 02:50:24 AM
hey im just wondering if there are anymore upgrades for my 2007 gs500f for some more power
i already have-
yoshi tri oval exhaust
rejetted
k&n filter
irridium plugs
i have a 15t front sprocket, i just have to put it on
have you really seen a power difference with those mods?
Quote from: spatofy on August 10, 2009, 07:54:07 AM
have you really seen a power difference with those mods?
When I added a lunchbox filter to my '04, I noticed a seat-of-the-pants increase in throttle response and power, albeit it not a lot, but noticeable. When I dynoed it, it had 42.7 to the rear wheel, 1 or 2 HP over your run-of-the-mill stock dyno. Obviously that's not corrected, but there is definitely a few HP to gain out of a rejet, exhaust, and filter change. However, that being said, if he's using the stock air box then the filter unlikely does very much, and nor do the spark plugs or sprocket.