Ok, ive had some plans for awhile now.. of fixing up the gs this winter.. paint etc..
BUT, i really want a gixxer6.. or R6 next year.. so things may change. I dont wanna sell my bike after all 'we've' been through though, so i have an idea...
Im thinking about turning her into a stunt bike!! only thinking, so dont knock the idea out completely..
Id put a huge rear sprocket on.. and maybe a slightly smaller front.. etc..
I really like watching it, and id love to learn how.. but on a new bike it would be stupid! Enter the gs... perfect! Light, nimble, with the right gearing it could be wheelie material!
Of course this wont be on public streets etc.. im not a squid..
Id want to learn on private property.. aka a friends lot etc.. but itd be cool to maybe make some vids and get a crew together..
any input?
Sounds dangerous. If you do, be careful...
***She pauses and tucks her maternal instinct away***
;)
great addition to the novel, if you do this 1 be careful, 2. send pics!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :cheers:
Quote from: CrisSounds dangerous. If you do, be careful...
***She pauses and tucks her maternal instinct away***
;)
Aww... hunny if you want me to stay home with you, just say the word :mrgreen:
jk cris! :thumb: Anyhow, ill definitely post pics if i do this..
ohh one more thing.. i WILL DEFINITELY sand down the V&H pipes... I know how much you guys hate to see that RUST! :nana:
I cant get my gs to wheelie without clutching it up... so I bought an R6 and it works fine haha... but i understand about not wanting to mess it up. I laid mine down doing a stoppie and it knocked a lil respect into me. Im just happy I was there for it to land on so it dint get scratched or anything. But yeah Id use mine as a stunta if i could actually get it to stunt.
Rash, if you dont mind beating the shinola out of the GS, then go for it, stock up on handlebars,levers,master cyl, for get about body work and the gastank, heh the gas tank will only hold about 3.5 gal once worn in. your gonna be doing LOTS of oil changes as the air cooled engine boils the oil from no air flow, no 20 mph doesnt do it(water cooled works better it has fans) make sure you have good case savers on the sides. Non folding pegs with beefed up frame work would help alot. and a shorty exhaust system. lets not forget lots of clutch plates,brake pads,and fork seals. but yes its fun, i wheelie alittle here and there,, and a few rolling endo's here and there, was getting good till i put on this very crappy tire, @ 20 mph if i snatch the fron brake it will slide.
lol.. wow, this is gonna be a project..
Maybe i wont do this afterall.. :cheers:
WOO HOOO :)
i won't be the only one stunting the gs
i say go for it :thumb:
and good luck :cheers:
STUNT IT
thats what im going to do
get case gards
as for sprockets in going -1 +10
good luck and be safe
Tricked500
How do you feel about stitches, plaster casts, and high insurance premiums?
Need something to do with your time..??..volunteer at a rehab clinic for a while, then decide if you really want to do this.
And you seemed so intelligent....
I saw a guy when I was in California last month... Indian dude with a few missing toes... He blamed his bike.. an EX500 and wanted to not get a bad bike... so he was looking at a GS, $1700 used GS from a wrecking yard....
BTW lemme tell you a bit about Indians (especially the ones that come to US) Mostly software geeks (self included...) And its not a 100% generalisation... there are some exceptions.. but this dude wasn't an exception... and they do it to impress chicks... and they never learn how to do it right, how to understand the bike and know what its capacities and limits are, and never learn fully the laws of physics... if you are going to run hard plastic tires... you have to ride like an old man like me. So anyway... learn how to do it right, learn how the laws of physics are doing when you are stunting, and make sure you learn from your and other mistakes. And dont blame the bike, and dont do it to impress chicks... They usually dont care if they are over 15... women mature fast and the truth is... they dont care much one way or another...
Cool.
Srinath.
And good gear.....
Course that may not save those toes.
Be careful and BE SMART!
You can still have fun boing both of those things!
:thumb:
stunt safely my friend.
and not on public roads (as you said you wouldn't).
Quote from: Rashad
ohh one more thing.. i WILL DEFINITELY sand down the V&H pipes... I know how much you guys hate to see that RUST! :nana:
Sorry, I gave you a hard time about that. I was planning on painting my headers the next weekend and your old avatar kept reminding me. :nana:
Quote from: dmp221How do you feel about stitches, plaster casts, and high insurance premiums?
Need something to do with your time..??..volunteer at a rehab clinic for a while, then decide if you really want to do this.
And you seemed so intelligent....
I guess theres a bad apple on every tree huh?
I 'seemed' so intelligent..
lemme ask you something @$$hole, did you read my post before spouting off with your oral diarhea, or are you just catching the title of the F**king thread?!
I wanna learn how to stunt, on PRIVATE PROPERTY.. hmm guess i wont be needing insurance as i can get pretty much any part for this bike IF i break it, for dirt cheap AND ill have a new bike as a daily (NON-STUNTING) rider...
Hmm ok lets see what else.. Ive had more than my share of friends, aquaintances and relatives not make it back from rides.. so dont tell me to go volunteer at a clinic like im some immature naive rides-to-be-cool squid. DONT TRY TO JUDGE AND predict MY THOUGHT PROCESSS, INSURANCE FUTURE, AND MATURITY LEVEL BECAUSE OF A POST ON A MESSAGE BOARD ABOUT THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING.. just because you dont want me too. If you dont, then post that..
I HATE when poeple throw down a few lines during a post, which NO ONE will benefit from.. and i bet you felt like you did me a favor huh?
:nana: YOU.
As for everyone else, thank you for your input.
never been so pissed on this board before... :x
Easy Rashad, its just one guys opinion.
yeah sure i say stunt it. but please be careful. im all for it. if i was 20 or over had my own place and had my gs and something else i would. so i support your idea. :thumb:
Rashad is plenty intelligent..thing is, he's plenty vengeful too. You see, he's secretly on a mission to exact revenge on his GS for all the emotional trauma it caused him a while back. Come on admit it..we all know that's the REAL reason you want to take up stunting. :P
I think it's a cool idea, wish I could have a play bike too. Just be safe, and give us tips when you learn new tricks. :thumb:
Have fun, and don't be too hard on her....I'm sure it wasn't personal. :cheers:
John
Quote from: JohnNSRashad is plenty intelligent..thing is, he's plenty vengeful too. You see, he's secretly on a mission to exact revenge on his GS for all the emotional trauma it caused him a while back. Come on admit it..we all know that's the REAL reason you want to take up stunting. :P
I think it's a cool idea, wish I could have a play bike too. Just be safe, and give us tips when you learn new tricks. :thumb:
Have fun, and don't be too hard on her....I'm sure it wasn't personal. :cheers:
John
her? hmmm now i feel bad. But still it did make me mad about the 'seemed intelligent' remark.. that stuff shouldnt be said.
Anyhow John, thats not what i want..lol.. im not talking stunting like 60mph wheelies.. i mean like slow stuff.. endoes, wheelies, and basically circles... doing cool stuff in a parking lot or something.. nothing really serious.. maybe i sent the wrong idea out...
Sorry for the outburst, ive been at work all day.. and that remark sent me over. :cheers:
Trade your GS for a good dirt bike and practice on dirt , dirts alittle softer and dirt bikes are easier to repair.
Quote from: Rashad
Anyhow John, thats not what i want..lol.. im not talking stunting like 60mph wheelies.. i mean like slow stuff.. endoes, wheelies, and basically circles... doing cool stuff in a parking lot or something.. nothing really serious.. maybe i sent the wrong idea out...
the slow stuff is the hard stuff
Quote from: dmp221high insurance premiums
why the hell would you insure a bike that is just going to be used for stunting
Quoteher? hmmm now i feel bad. But still it did make me mad about the 'seemed intelligent' remark.. that stuff shouldnt be said.
Actually, I was referring to the bike...but anyway :lol:
:cheers:
John
QuoteHow do you feel about stitches, plaster casts, and high insurance premiums?
Need something to do with your time..??..volunteer at a rehab clinic for a while, then decide if you really want to do this.
And you seemed so intelligent....
He did say it wasn't going to be on the streets. As far as the stitches and such...the same could be said about riding period. We'd all be much safer in a big SUV, but we still ride. Why? Cuz it's FUN! :thumb:
John
Quote from: JohnNSHe did say it wasn't going to be on the streets.
Goin down is goin down...you just avoid being run over if you're off a public street.
As far as the stitches and such...the same could be said about riding period. We'd all be much safer in a big SUV, but we still ride. Why? Cuz it's FUN! :thumb:
Totally agree...and I push riding pretty far sometimes. Riding and stunting are, however, two very different things.
why the hell would you insure a bike that is just going to be used for stunting
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Matt with one t
I was thinking of what an unfortuinate set of events could ultimately do to medical coverage.
This is clearly a personal decision about risk tolerance. There's really no wrong or right, and I do respect all who disagree with me. Stunting just wouldn't be my choice.
Who on the board has the quote that goes something like: "experience is what you get right after you need it"..?? OK. Good luck if you still decide to go for it.
found this link on the svrider site...
http://www.bessels.net/3063jd2.wmv
Just thought it might be relevant... :thumb:
...looks like it hurts... riders and the bikes :o :o :o !!....
watch for the protruding bone :?
i would honestly like to see what a gs could do stunting. i would try, but,,............, my gs for now, only bike, 2., mine arent hairy enough :) :? im sayin' if you are willing to take the consequences, go for it. (on private prop. of course). p.s. still want to see pics. succesful or not, i wish you the best of luck :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I think you should go for it.. I will have to admit that slow tricks and stunts are definately a little harder than fast wheelies and sliding endos, but.. they look a lot cooler, and once you perfect them, that's when you finally learn how to actually stunt ride.
I've got more scars from stupid mistakes, such as pulling a wheelie on a 1981 Yamaha Virago 920RH while going down a side street and not noticing the extrememely large pothole.. And.. I've also flipped my old 1991 GS500e end over end while doing a burnout in a blacktopped parking lot.. the kind that's usually slick enought to do doughnuts in a car in the middle of summertime.. I somehow rolled too far forward and caught a warm spot, that was warm enough to hold the tire and spring the bike right up and over.. Luckily.. the bike did land on me, but ever since then.. I've never put so many keys on my bikes key chain..
Stunting the GS would require not too many mods and they're fairly simple to boot..
Switch to solid pegs, front and rear (you'll like having solid rear pegs for riding wheelies in circles.
Swap to a double disk front end.. (It's a lot easier to do endos, especially where you're at 75 degrees and you're worried about the pads slipping either way)..
But Frame sliders and put 2 on each side with a good set of barrends..
A friend of mine actually drilled holes in his rear fairings and mounted the frame sliders right to the rear subframe right through the farings.. and.. actually they looked pretty trick.
Invest in the engine guards.. well worth every penny..
Eliminate any misc plastic pieces (turn signals, mirros, front fender, tailight, rear plastic inner fender)
Secure the tailpieces with small zip ties with no bolts or screws.. This way if you do take a really nasty spill they will most likely rip off rather than stay on for the slide and destroy themselves..
And also.. have someone beef up the steering locks from turn to turn.. elminate the ignition switch, headlight, left side plastic controls from the handlebars, and if you're really inclined.. invest in a set of dirt bike or atv style handle bars with a cross support.. they hold up better in crashes.. and also.. buy a case saver or make one for the inside of the front sprocket.. just an insurance in case you have the chain fall off..
I highly recommend moving the rear wheel as far forward as possible.. usually you can knock out two links from a stock chain if you adjust it all the way..
Also.. remove the side stand and the centerstand.. Swap to a set of K&N Pod Filter with a remote breather..
Stick with a sealed battery.
Mount a tether kill switch, and if you're really gung ho.. mount a fuel catch can..
Also.. figure out a way to keep the tach mounted, but elimate the speedo.. Just as a safety measure This way you don't go blowing your engine all the time..and also.. install an oil cooler, you wouldn't believe the difference the $60 in parts makes in the color of your oil, and the durability of it...
Now.. I'm not suggesting that you use any or all of this information, but. from my experience in helping my friend hammer the crap out of his 54,000 mile gs.. This is just a posting of info just incase you decide to go that route..
If I ever my digital camera fixed.. I'll take pictures next time I go visit..
Hope that it's something useful.
Bill
P.S. another thing highly recommended.. if you're planning on doing a lot of endos, make sure you stick with really sticky rubber up front..
Don't stunt it. Race it. Or at least do track days with it, since pretty much the only place you can race 'em is in Minnesota, and it looks like our days are numbered here.
But the GS makes a fun track bike.
j
Quote from: lookmanohandsTrade your GS for a good dirt bike and practice on dirt , dirts alittle softer and dirt bikes are easier to repair.
Thats how i learned how to ride bro,..
In fact, i have a CR125.. but its a totally different animal.. Different powerbands by far.. and different geometry etc.. VERY OPPOSITE the gs.. but i did think about using it to practice a bit..
Do track days witht he GS. Stunting is cool, but there arnt the same kind of thrills that you can get by carving up a track... at least thats my opinion.
The GS can be made into such a great track bike, relativley easily. Go beat down some big bikes through the twisties. :cheers:
Quote from: BillWheelerJrI think you should go for it.. I will have to admit that slow tricks and stunts are definately a little harder than fast wheelies and sliding endos, but.. they look a lot cooler, and once you perfect them, that's when you finally learn how to actually stunt ride.
I've got more scars from stupid mistakes, such as pulling a wheelie on a 1981 Yamaha Virago 920RH while going down a side street and not noticing the extrememely large pothole.. And.. I've also flipped my old 1991 GS500e end over end while doing a burnout in a blacktopped parking lot.. the kind that's usually slick enought to do doughnuts in a car in the middle of summertime.. I somehow rolled too far forward and caught a warm spot, that was warm enough to hold the tire and spring the bike right up and over.. Luckily.. the bike did land on me, but ever since then.. I've never put so many keys on my bikes key chain..
Stunting the GS would require not too many mods and they're fairly simple to boot..
Switch to solid pegs, front and rear (you'll like having solid rear pegs for riding wheelies in circles.
Swap to a double disk front end.. (It's a lot easier to do endos, especially where you're at 75 degrees and you're worried about the pads slipping either way)..
But Frame sliders and put 2 on each side with a good set of barrends..
A friend of mine actually drilled holes in his rear fairings and mounted the frame sliders right to the rear subframe right through the farings.. and.. actually they looked pretty trick.
Invest in the engine guards.. well worth every penny..
Eliminate any misc plastic pieces (turn signals, mirros, front fender, tailight, rear plastic inner fender)
Secure the tailpieces with small zip ties with no bolts or screws.. This way if you do take a really nasty spill they will most likely rip off rather than stay on for the slide and destroy themselves..
And also.. have someone beef up the steering locks from turn to turn.. elminate the ignition switch, headlight, left side plastic controls from the handlebars, and if you're really inclined.. invest in a set of dirt bike or atv style handle bars with a cross support.. they hold up better in crashes.. and also.. buy a case saver or make one for the inside of the front sprocket.. just an insurance in case you have the chain fall off..
I highly recommend moving the rear wheel as far forward as possible.. usually you can knock out two links from a stock chain if you adjust it all the way..
Also.. remove the side stand and the centerstand.. Swap to a set of K&N Pod Filter with a remote breather..
Stick with a sealed battery.
Mount a tether kill switch, and if you're really gung ho.. mount a fuel catch can..
Also.. figure out a way to keep the tach mounted, but elimate the speedo.. Just as a safety measure This way you don't go blowing your engine all the time..and also.. install an oil cooler, you wouldn't believe the difference the $60 in parts makes in the color of your oil, and the durability of it...
Now.. I'm not suggesting that you use any or all of this information, but. from my experience in helping my friend hammer the crap out of his 54,000 mile gs.. This is just a posting of info just incase you decide to go that route..
If I ever my digital camera fixed.. I'll take pictures next time I go visit..
Hope that it's something useful.
Bill
P.S. another thing highly recommended.. if you're planning on doing a lot of endos, make sure you stick with really sticky rubber up front..
WOW! :thumb: Thanks bro! lots of good info here!
BillWheelerJr makes one hell of an argument. I retract my earlier stament regarding track days. Stunt that thing.
Wondering what ever happened with your GS.. did you end up stunting it or just modding it for track days..
Let me know.
Bill
BUMP! so what happened???