Yea... now who wants to guess what it was... No one had hit it so far. So....guess on...
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what did you do to get gino's bike up.. .
i think it was the damn valve adjustment..may have been too tight or something..
fuel?
clogged air filter?
Airbox clogged? Fuel valve on the auxilliary tank turned off? Banana in the tailpipe?
Remembered to turn on the kill switch? :nana:
Quote from: glenn9171Remembered to turn on the kill switch? :nana:
I was gonna say that it was shorting.
Ooh, ooh, was it the alternator!? Or the regulator/recifier!? Allowing a big blue Alternating Current spark across the sparkplug electrode!?
Nope... It had an IV supplying fuel to carbs, and no filter and the bike was cranking so no kill switch or clutch switch or side stand issues... nd not the trigger plate or black box either.
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the flux compacitor!!! i knew it!!!
:lol:
The spark plugs giving off that blue spark?? :mrgreen:
fuse?
The sparkies were new and shiny... Tossed them, put some shitty old plugs in and fired right up...
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Quote from: seshadri_srinathThe sparkies were new and shiny... Tossed them, put some shitty old plugs in and fired right up...
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I love bein right :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumb:
WTF... You close??? never mind, Anyway the right guess would have been new sparkies were still bad... Yea whatever.
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Quote from: seshadri_srinathWTF... You close??? never mind, Anyway the right guess would have been new sparkies were still bad... Yea whatever.
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Hey I said the spark plugs, I was just using what you said about them giving off a blue spark in your post about the bike not starting. 8) But anyway glad you got it working. :cheers:
You were close... but who could have guessed shiny new plugs with blue spark was bad and dirty worn plugs that make brown spark is good... :? ...
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look down into those "new" plugs, i bet there is a crack in the insulation, near the base of center electrode, once compression hits the plug, the insulator moves a tad allowing the crack to open giving the spark a shorter gap to jump. thats one of the reasons i wont use autolite, had that happen 2 x once with pontiac, once with plymouth valare. drove me nuts for 3 days trying to find the reason for the miss, one may joke about Rotating sparkplugs, but i found that was the problem. laying there connected to the wire, the insulator is tight and not exposing enough of a gap for spark to jump. so it jumps the Normal gap and looks fine. Yes, put this one down in the rare section of the notebook.
the jiggamoflatz of the whatchamacallit!? :? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I bet those weren't NGK plugs!? I never put anything but NGK, or Bosch for my German friend, in a motorcycle. Too many problems in the past with others.
They were shiny new NGK's... and we rotated the plugs a 100 times... In fact we (Gino and me) pulled the plugs over a dozen times just on sunday to see, clean and re install... never struck me that the crudded up plugs I have lying about would do the job... Ok Here after people you should donate your old crappy plugs to Gino.. cos his bike is very serious about getting a dirty brown spark. So Bluknyt...what is the defect rate in plugs.. 1 in a million...1 in 10 million...and we have 2 in the same motor, a motor that only has 2 plugs... what are the odds... 1 in a 100 trillion... The mind wobbles... :?
And absolutely Moose... Glad its alive and thanks to all y'all and really glad I didn't roll the Mofo into that ravine in front of my house. BTW Gino rode it today... Rain... I dont worry about no steenking rain... Its terribly lean down low (idle and up to 1/8 throttle) and good from there on UP... but it has stock pipes, it also is right revving, and has some issues locking the steering. Did the bike always have lock trouble. I'll put the pipe on tonight and see what it does tommorow.
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Wow, guess NGK isn't infallible either. Very strange to get two screwed new plugs.
Glad you got it running!
I doubt the plugs were the problem... rather I dont think I got 2 bad plugs. See new and shiny plugs have the gas sprayed on them with the choke on when we try to start it, and whenever we pulled the plugs out they looked wet to us. Now I belive that was killing the spark. The older plugs are also probablr getting sprayed with gas, but they have more surface area, and a more absorbent material (carbon) on that surface. That makes the gas less effective in snuffing out the spark. Now the gaps in the older plugs were also probably less due to crabon and crap on it and that was helping the spark jump a smaller gap. All these things let the bike start up just a bit easier, and once it starts it will self clean better, gas enters and evaporates better even with choke due to the heat etc. I am going to try 1 plug at a time in my other bike and see. So it will run on 1 cyl and soon the other will pick up I hope. if not... well guess what... 2 bad sparkies in a product that has a 1 in a million or less defect rate... Lemme see... glad the whole thing is behind me...and glad to be on it even in the miserable rain...
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Congratulations! I'm glad it all worked out. And so :guns: SIMPLY, too!
I am glad to have MR. Guru of ALL GS Shrinath to work on my bike. I had confidence in him but spend the whole SUN switching stuff around. But I ma glad my mistress(like my future ex-wife will call it) is running again.
Thanks to all for showing interest, you're a great bunch of people!!!!!!!!!!
GRACIAS!!!!!!!!!
Gino
I bet if you had sprayed some starting fluid in, it might have helped..
When we first fired the new motor up... it wouldnt start. We cranked and cranked..
I went and bought some starting fluid.. sprayed it into the airbox.. and VAVAVOOOOM!
Weird how that happens.. :thumb: My plugs were new as well.. but see, the brand new plugs have absolutely NO gas on them.. and maybe something about the older ones having enough to break in that never-run-before motor... i dunno
Yeah, I'd swear my GS doesn't start quite as easily after I changed the plugs (put in NKG, same as old). The old ones were out of spec (a little too wide gap, but not burned electrode). Maybe I should put the old ones back in and see if there was really a difference. I had assumed that it was my imagination.
what is the defect rate in plugs.. 1 in a million...1 in 10 million...and we have 2
How about this, I have gotten 2 plugs from 2 differnt stores but same manufacture date, Both with NO threads cut into the bodies. both were champian
Quote from: Blueknytwhat is the defect rate in plugs.. 1 in a million...1 in 10 million...and we have 2
How about this, I have gotten 2 plugs from 2 differnt stores but same manufacture date, Both with NO threads cut into the bodies. both were champian
Not suprised. Same date, same batch.
Well those plugs were bad... on my 91... pretty much killed the thing too... Should try it in a hot motor next. Again same batch and consecutive pieces to roll off the line so maybe they both bad...
Anyway staring fluid might have helped but this was a bike that started and ran fine... We had no idea what could have been wrong.
Gino - the bike has been called Miss. Firing due to some beauties it gave out during the course of the whole ordeal...
I was "fixing it" for a whole 2 weeks before that Sunday. That sunday we just swapped everything. 2 more steps and we'd have swapped the whole motor.
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Well Mrs. Firing it is. My new companion in life.!!!!!!!! I love your Mrs. Firing.
Gino
Its Miss not Mrs... That sounds like an 80 year old crone...
Miss. Firing , she's hot, she's temperemental, she's gorgeous, she's sweet... never mind are we even talking about a bike...
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