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Title: FML (Updates
Post by: ver4 on August 31, 2009, 10:01:38 AM
I thought I was I done with all the problems from my bike, but it doesn't seem that way.  Tomorrow I go for my motorcycle license and I take my bike up the road today just to get more practice in and to work on the maneuvers that need to be done for the test.

Well aren't I the lucky guy. :bs:  The freaking bike is running on one cylinder, so I'm assuming it's a carb problem, it won't hold idle and whenever I do a quick stop the stupid thing stalls.

Ugh, it's really hard not to curse this bike to hell.

Oh yeah, when I disengage the choke the RPM's don't fall back down and it stays idling at 5K RPM.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: jeremy_nash on August 31, 2009, 10:43:47 AM
check the vacuum line on your left carb to the petcock.  a vacuum  leak will cause a horrible idle, while your at it, check the plugs, should be a bright blue spark
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on August 31, 2009, 10:57:29 AM
I think it's the vacuum b/c we disconnected it and put a cap on it as a temporary solution.  I need to head out and get spark plugs and it hopefully it will be running better. 

Also, I just went out on the street and it seems to be running fine and on both cylinders.  :dunno_white:  I must have gremlins.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: BaltimoreGS on August 31, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
It's always an easy test to swap spark plugs side to side when you are running on one cylinder to see if it's a plug issue.

My personal experience has always been clogged carbs when I run on one cylinder.  Did you add a fuel filter last time you had it apart?

Good luck!

-Jessie
Title: Re: FML
Post by: tt_four on August 31, 2009, 01:00:10 PM
Motorcycle tests make me hate life. I have my license so it shouldn't ever be an issue again, but when I took the MSF course and passed with a perfect score, it didn't count because I didn't have my permit for 6 months and was under 18. Anyway, we took the course, the test, then we goofed around and they taught us things like figure 8s.

Next I went to the DMV for my test, got it scheduled, showed up, and realized I forgot my check book. It's a check/money order only deal there, so I went to the desk to have the guy tell me how much the test cost so I could run and get a money order since I still had a couple minutes. The guy refused to answer any questions, and said I had to take a number and wait in line. Well assuming DMVs in the rest of the country are the same as PA, you know that's a joke considering my license test was scheduled in 15-20 minutes. My next idea was pretty genius. I hopped on my bike, rode to mcdonalds to use the pay phone, I figured I'd call, ask them how much it was, since they couldn't make me take a number over the phone, then go to get the money order. No phone book at the pay phone. Couldn't find another pay phone, so I rode 20 minutes home, got my check book, rode back, 20 minutes late at this point. The guy looks at me and says "you're late, you missed your test", I said "I had to run home and get my check book", and he answered with "For what? the test is free." THE TEST IS FREE?!?! THE TEST IS FREE?! YOU TRIED TO MAKE ME TAKE A NUMBER AND SIT IN LIKE FOR AN HOUR ISNTEAD OF TAKING 2 SECONDS TO TELL ME THE TEST WAS FREE?!!

Anyway, attempt 2, I show up on time, know it's free, and can't do figure 8s inside a coned off parking space. My fault for assuming that the DMV test would be the same thing as the MSF test, but seriously, why would they give you two different tests, and why would MSF only teach you figure 8s as a free time activity if it's something the rest of the cycling community is required to know? it's like the parrallel parking of the motorcycle world.

Finally the next time I pass find and have my license, but still, what a hassle.

My wife did the same thing with the MSF class. She got her permit, and signed up for the classes to learn how to ride, but because she was under 18 and hadn't had it for 6 months, she didn't get her license, even though she passed the test, so now she doesn't even have a permit anymore.

What exactly is the point of a 6 month limit on your permit before you can pass that test for your license? Are they trying to encourage people to ride around like a jerk with no clue how to ride safely for 6 months before it's worth signing up for the course? The other option is to get your permit, sit on it for 6 months, and then sign up for the class so you can get your license? although at that point, what was the point of having your permit for 6 months if you weren't supposed to use it anyway. The Penn DOT employee in charge of common sense needs fired.

Sorry for the threadjacking, but I saw a license test complaint and my brain just jumped on it.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on August 31, 2009, 01:29:21 PM
ttfour: Well I wasn't really complaining about the licensing process b/c here in MD you only need your permit for 2 weeks and then you can schedule a test, but that sucks for you.  A lot of hassle for missed opportunities.

Jessie:  The thing is that it's running fine now, so I don't know what's going on.  I do need to get the fuel filter, but never had the chance to get to the store before my Dad fixed it.  Do you remember the test b/c online it has the manual which has a test, but there is also a PDF that shows the test, but with less stuff to do?  I also need to buy a socket wrench.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: BaltimoreGS on September 01, 2009, 06:38:22 AM
I took Franklin for his test a few weeks ago and it really hasn't changed much in the 10 years since I got my license.  One positive change is the test is now given by a regular DMV employee instead of a state trooper.  Nothing like a state trooper with a clip board in front of you to make you feel calm...  Let me know when you are free sometime and we can set the test course up in a parking lot to practice.

As far as your bike, my experience has always been the carbs are clogged.  You may have some rust in there clogging up the jets.  Definitely add that fuel filter if you take it apart again.  Later

-Jessie
Title: Re: FML
Post by: Jay_wolf on September 01, 2009, 07:56:39 AM
To be honest ,over here is alot worse , from 16 u have to do CBT which seems like your MSF, costs 80 pounds , that last for 2 years ,  u are aloud 125cc or 13 bhp then u can take your motorbike test at 18 , thats 150 pounds just for the test , for the 3 day course its something like 600-700 pounds , u pass , your then restricted to 33 bhp , u have to wait 2 years before u can even ride something powerful , a GS unrestricted is to powerful if your under 21 , over 21 u take the same test but u can ride anything ,
Title: Re: FML
Post by: dohabee on September 01, 2009, 08:14:02 AM
man that sucks, I took a written test and then a driving test and they were free.

My driving test consisted of going down an access road for 2 miles then u-turn and come back to the DMV.

Title: Re: FML
Post by: joker79507 on September 01, 2009, 09:12:44 AM
damn, all I did was take the MSF course and that cancelled  out the driving portion of my test, then I just took the written test and paid for a new license.  easy as pie.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: BaltimoreGS on September 01, 2009, 09:38:25 AM
tt_four:  Maryland doesn't do the figure 8's like PA requires, you just have to turn in and out of box.  A friend of mine has a kid that is a phenominal rider.  He was a better motocross rider at 12 than I ever was.  He cleared everything on an 80 that I could on my 250.  He got into street bikes and stunt riding once he turned 18 and is every bit as impressive on the street.  He could not do PA's figure 8's on his Ninja though, it was impossible with it's turning radius.  He ended up having to borrow one of my bikes to pass his test.

-Jessie
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 01, 2009, 02:31:31 PM
Well I passed the test.  :woohoo:  It was easy....no points marked against me.

Now, the bad news.  After waiting at the MVA for an hour I get my license and head out to my bike.  Guess what?  Speedometer doesn't work,  so now I have to drive home without any indication of speed.  I just went with the flow of traffic.  The bike was also stuttering on the highway and so I pulled off and then it stalled when I engaged the clutch.  I know now that the carbs will need to be cleaned yet again (third times the charm, right?).  I also thinks there's a vacuum leak. What's the petcock most people use off the Honda? I don't understand how crud can get through the filter in tank.  :dunno_white:

This sucks.... every time I have something good going, there's always bad news.

Title: Re: FML
Post by: BaltimoreGS on September 02, 2009, 07:13:02 AM
Congratulations Victor!  Let me know if you want some help with the carbs, I have no real plans this weekend.  Later

-Jessie
Title: Re: FML
Post by: jeremy_nash on September 02, 2009, 08:26:35 AM
I'm using a petcock of an 06 on mine, I dont have any problems with it, and I like that I dont NEED to turn it to off when Im done riding for the day
Title: Re: FML
Post by: Porkchop on September 02, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
Congrats on passing the test.  Now you won't have to wait for Jessie to pick you up for our next Meet & Greet.  :thumb:

QuoteI know now that the carbs will need to be cleaned yet again (third times the charm, right?). 

What does the inside of your tank look like? Rusty? Clean? Black goop at the bottom?

-Porkchop
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 02, 2009, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: Porkchop on September 02, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
Congrats on passing the test.  Now you won't have to wait for Jessie to pick you up for our next Meet & Greet.  :thumb:

QuoteI know now that the carbs will need to be cleaned yet again (third times the charm, right?). 

What does the inside of your tank look like? Rusty? Clean? Black goop at the bottom?

-Porkchop

It's been lined recently, and by recently I mean last month.

Thanks Jessie.  I have nothing to do either, so maybe I'll give you a call.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: BaltimoreGS on September 02, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
I picked up an extra fuel filter today, let me know if you need it.  I may be working Saturday until 4 but otherwise no set plans.  Later

-Jessie
Title: Re: FML
Post by: gsJack on September 02, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: ver4 on September 01, 2009, 02:31:31 PM
........................After waiting at the MVA for an hour I get my license and head out to my bike.  Guess what?  Speedometer doesn't work,  so now I have to drive home without any indication of speed.......................... 

Use the tach if it's working to aproximate your speed when your speedometer isn't working.  In 5th gear with standard sprockets and rear tire the tach is close to the speed, 4k on tach at 40 mph, 5k on tach 50 mph, etc.   Not exact but close enough to get by.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 02, 2009, 04:37:41 PM
Thanks all and Jessie I'll call you tomorrow or something.

I made a dumb move.  I installed a windshield w/o thinking about the speedometer, so now I'm going to have to take that off when I fix this speedometer.  I bought a speedo cable and it comes with the speed hub.  I'm assuming I can just take the cable off the new one and put it on the hub that's already on my bike.....is it as simple as I seem to make it or is there more work?
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 02, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
Well here are pictures with the windshield:
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/100_0132.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/100_0133.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/100_0134.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/100_0135.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/100_0136.jpg)
Title: Re: FML
Post by: Porkchop on September 02, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Nice wind screen.

-Porkchop
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 02, 2009, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: Porkchop on September 02, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Nice wind screen.

-Porkchop
Thank you.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: BaltimoreGS on September 03, 2009, 06:08:42 AM
Don't have a GS to look at at the moment but I thought the speedo cable has a screw/bolt that holds it in the front hub and a screw on mount like a garden hose at the speedometer end.

-Jessie
Title: Re: FML
Post by: tt_four on September 03, 2009, 06:27:46 AM
Yeah it just screws in both ends. You should just be able to pull the one cable off and screw the new one in.

Check first, your speedo might have just stopped working if the cable worked its way loose from the back of the speedometer. Otherwise test both ends. Unscrew it from the wheel end, and spin it with your fingers, does the speedometer needle move? then screw it back into the wheel and remove it from the speedo, put the bike on the center stand, and awkwardly find a way to lift the front end, spin the wheel, and see if the other end of the cable spins. If both of those go OK then you could try the new cable, but if one or the other doesn't work, then the actual problem is with your speedometer or the hub.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 03, 2009, 07:25:51 AM
After I received my license and got home I did pull the cable out and checked it out.  I tightened the part that hooks into the speedometer, but it still didn't work, but I didn't check where it connects to the speedo hub.  I should be receiving the speedo stuff soon and then I'll be able to do more work on it.
Title: Re: FML
Post by: tt_four on September 03, 2009, 09:42:45 AM
The first time I put my bike back together I wasn't paying attention. I took the bike outside and got it running. I was trying to set the idle as it was warming up and thought my tach wasn't working, even though the cable was tight. Then I started wondering why my bike was idling at 15mph. haha
Title: Re: FML
Post by: ver4 on September 03, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: tt_four on September 03, 2009, 09:42:45 AM
The first time I put my bike back together I wasn't paying attention. I took the bike outside and got it running. I was trying to set the idle as it was warming up and thought my tach wasn't working, even though the cable was tight. Then I started wondering why my bike was idling at 15mph. haha
Ha, that's funny. That sounds like something I would do.
Title: Re: FML (Updates
Post by: ver4 on September 04, 2009, 01:44:48 PM
Alright....I got the speedo cable and hub today in the mail, so that's good news.  The old speedo wire broke off at the hub.  Well I had the bike on the center stand and guess what happened when I was installing the wire.  The freaking bike decided it wanted to lay down.  I had to pick the bike up and it doesn't look like any damage.  After I put the newer cable on I decided to start it up.  Guess what?!  The throttle is now sticking.  This bike has been the biggest pain  in the rear and I want to drive it off a bridge.  :2guns:
Title: Re: FML (Updates
Post by: ver4 on September 04, 2009, 02:07:31 PM
Haha, I fixed the problem!  The bar end was causing the throttle to stick up against the throttle cable housing (or whatever it's called).  I'm going to take it and see how it does.