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Is that 09 GSXR front able to just bolt onto a pre 2001 GS500? or do you have to mod the frame?
Not frame mod, stem mod. I have been researching options. Either a new stem, or press out the gs one and put it in the GSXR triples and add a big washer, or......... Lots of options just need to see which is most $ effective.
OMG I have that magazine in my basement!
O.C.D. Quote:
And for fun, I bought the comparison test from Cycle World in '92. I got lucky on Ebay and found it. Great article, but the GS came in last, lol. Seca II, Bandit, and EX500 whooped on it. But, they said that no matter what, the GS kept up in the turns. What hurt it was the weak engine which we are all aware of:
I remember buying that magazine off of the rack at the local 7-11 in Monterey California. I had just bought my 90GSE the year before brand new from the Monterey Suzuki dealer and was hungry for information. If I remember correctly they said that the GS was more then capable on the twisties and was the most comfortable to ride. And that was the year the Bandit came out with 4 small cylinders and a 14-15K red line? Wow I will have to dig that magazine out. You have brought back many memories with that obscure reference to Cycleworld.
Anyway cool start to the project and that front end is going to look awesome on there!
This was 92, I believe there was a 94-95 one which tested seca, ex, GS and something else ... not B4 or B6. I have that one.
Cool.
Buddha.
that rear end is going to be sexy hawt
:cheers:
I wish I could fast forward to April-ish to see the finished product. But then I would miss all the fun.
I am stumbling over myself to get things going too. I will be watching this build for sure. Your parts all look great!
j,kmn
white wheel with 320mm rotor....nice nice
the rivets are designed to allow for expansion when it heats up. however if theres a noticable wobble side to side... chuck them and get new rotors.
Quote from: psyber_0ptix on October 21, 2009, 02:00:10 PM
white wheel with 320mm rotor....nice nice
the rivets are designed to allow for expansion when it heats up. however if theres a noticable wobble side to side... chuck them and get new rotors.
agreed!
very nice project, keep us posted!
it will be gorgeous bike after you're done modding!
I have been so jealous, everytime I see that Monster seat.
why not just trade someone for a white wheel? or buy a white wheel. Cost to powdercoat might not be as economical than picking up a wheel already that color.....
mine was white :dunno_black:
though i DID have to get my rear powdercoated white, as i couldnt find any and wasn't aware of any year katana/SV that had white rear
You're project looks totally cool, I'm just surprised that you are so excited about the white wheels. I have just about the same bike as you (Red 92 GS) and I had white wheels and painted them black. I love the new color, I think black wheels go great with our black engine.
Just my $0.02.
Still, can't wait to see how your bike turns out!
Quote from: nakedGS on October 21, 2009, 08:12:30 PM
You're project looks totally cool, I'm just surprised that you are so excited about the white wheels. I have just about the same bike as you (Red 92 GS) and I had white wheels and painted them black. I love the new color, I think black wheels go great with our black engine.
:2guns:
white wheels black engines forever!
jk jk
to each their own, i was debating for the longest time my next wheel color. I think although white shows brake dust like crazy; it looks nice on a bike and helps define the awesome brakes/front end better while being a common neutral color
Quote from: psyber_0ptix on October 22, 2009, 04:23:34 AM
Quote from: nakedGS on October 21, 2009, 08:12:30 PM
You're project looks totally cool, I'm just surprised that you are so excited about the white wheels. I have just about the same bike as you (Red 92 GS) and I had white wheels and painted them black. I love the new color, I think black wheels go great with our black engine.
:2guns:
white wheels black engines forever!
jk jk
to each their own, i was debating for the longest time my next wheel color. I think although white shows brake dust like crazy; it looks nice on a bike and helps define the awesome brakes/front end better while being a common neutral color
I am a white freak. I love white in most applications as it show off the machine or part better - I think.
i was looking over the front wheel last night and it is immaculate. I am sad to think it is going to have to be changed. But, I am not sad as that is what I want. I think making it look stock will only make it look better. Only people who know or care about these bikes will know what I have done. Plus, as Psyber said, the white will show off the front end well. I gotta be able to show it off ya know, lol.
I called around locally and found a place that will media blast the wheels and prep/powder them for $50 a wheel. Another place was $25 if I brought them ready. Since I don't have a blaster all I could do is strip. Add the costs and time of the chemicals and my effort and I think $50 per wheel is a good deal. Now I have to ruin 4 bearings to get them done. :cookoo:
Tywash - the Ducati seat was the first part I bought. I actually bought two as there are different latching mechanisms. When I decided to get a whole rear sub-frame I had to have the right seat. I believe that it was off an '06 with a few thousand miles so it is pretty damn near perfect.
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i have a spare set of gsxr rotors; one is garbage, the other seems alright. It's a gold center. Perhaps the good one isn't as warped as yours are? havent mounted and turned them, but they seem flat on a table
Yes, but can there be any wobble or do they need/have to be spot on flat with no wobble?
Will they set and straighten out when mounted and used?
OCD:
Any reason you want powder coated instead of painted?
Psyber:
How have the powder coated stood up to use? No chips or anything?
Michael
Quote from: O.C.D. on October 30, 2009, 11:12:22 AM
Yes, but can there be any wobble or do they need/have to be spot on flat with no wobble?
Will they set and straighten out when mounted and used?
If there not straight, as the wheel rotates the rotor will press harder and harder against the brake pad in the warped area. (ex. if sitting on a table, the left side of the rotor is bent up, when mounted the left part that was facing up will push hard against the pad when it rotates around, then lessen once its past, then hard again, then .... you get the idea.
Alright, screw it, I am buying new ones. This crap I have been finding on the internet is all warped even when they say it isn't. So i am going to have to either buy OEM which is way too much money, or the nifty looking kind that pysber has. Guess I will do gold though as that is what I am after anyway.
Mister: For $100 I can have the wheels prepped and powdered together. But, then I need new bearings all around and I just priced them at AllBalls. For all new wheel bearings it will be $50.00.
Or, I can buy stripper, paint and add all my time but keep the current bearings. This would be a little more.
Who knows. I think the powder would be better as it is more durable and 100% of the job is not done by me, lol.
werthyj
Are you starting to get excited? I was like a little kid when it came time to hack up the subframe.
The bike is gonna look good when you're done. Can't wait to see it.
How did you manage to find a Ducati owner willing to chop the rear of the frame off? I can only dream of that...
Quote from: mitch.lax on November 03, 2009, 04:35:29 PM
Are you starting to get excited? I was like a little kid when it came time to hack up the subframe.
The bike is gonna look good when you're done. Can't wait to see it.
Excited is an understatement. I get the welder today as well as the angle grinder. Then it really begins......
Quote from: mullethunter3 on November 05, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
How did you manage to find a Ducati owner willing to chop the rear of the frame off? I can only dream of that...
I pm'd you about it. Just gotta dig deep enough..
kjh
oi.u,m
Thats lookin VERY cool man :thumb:
:cheers:
so are you going to use a shotgun type exhaust or pipes on each side? (yes you have to use 2 pipes in the spirit of the monster)
say now, that looks real good. I was wondering, what is the duck tail for? like why do ducatis have em if they stick so far out past the rear fender?
so purty
Thanks for the comments guys.
I was thinking of getting another V&H for the left side but don't want to hurt performance at all. I think it would look awesome though. I will not change that aspect unless I can be told it will perform the same or better.
The "Duck Tail" is there so you can attach the "Beer Tray". The 4 holes in the tail mount a hideous plastic tray that hangs over the rear tire as a fender. Remove the tray, and you have the exposed ugly tail. So I am killing them both before hand. Makes it look way more clean as well.
Damn that's sexy....
In your opinion, since you can see it better, do you think that seat is going to fit around the tank without any modification?
Quote from: O.C.D. on November 10, 2009, 10:34:49 AM
Thanks for the comments guys.
I was thinking of getting another V&H for the left side but don't want to hurt performance at all. I think it would look awesome though. I will not change that aspect unless I can be told it will perform the same or better.
The "Duck Tail" is there so you can attach the "Beer Tray". The 4 holes in the tail mount a hideous plastic tray that hangs over the rear tire as a fender. Remove the tray, and you have the exposed ugly tail. So I am killing them both before hand. Makes it look way more clean as well.
the gs puts out 40hp, just do it
Quote from: mullethunter3 on November 11, 2009, 01:38:57 PM
In your opinion, since you can see it better, do you think that seat is going to fit around the tank without any modification?
Well, not really perfect, but close enough for me. I could either modify the seat or add something to the tank. But I am not worried,.............................yet, lol.
Quote from: aaronjosephward on November 12, 2009, 09:24:47 AM
the gs puts out 40hp, just do it
Damn, now you have me thinking about this.
I have read many times on here about duals. Read more bad than good. Anyone know if I am going to lose out by adding another V&H if I have an "X" pipe to equalize the cylinders? As I wrote above, it does not affect the power on the negative side I will do it.
like previously mentioned....the bikes only got 40hp. if dual exhaust is the look you're going for, do it! I'd personally sacrafice a few HP to have a sweet exhaust setup.
def
I gotta eat, lol. Be back in a few with the cool pics. :thumb:
sfg
jfnhx
looking very nice so far.. can't wait to see it finished.. oh yeah.. genius idea for the torque arm.
Your bike is gonna look very good. I'm assuming you're a tall one??
The newer tank had a better shape to it. You should keep an eye out for a used one and swap it out for yours, I think it would make the bike look even better.
Wow,
I like that brake torque arm idea :thumb: My main concern would be buckling, but that looks pretty solid. I doubt you'll be putting much of a load on it anyway.
Looking good!
Yup, fuel tank aint fitting right so I to was thinking about swapping it out.
As for the brake arm, that is not going anywhere, lol. It is basically solid now as it burned through on every cut when I welded it up. Spent about half a spool on it. It is never moving.
Thats looking sweet.
By the way,
That brake arm is 100% cool. good idea.
Well, I guess this is going to completely be a different bike so why not get a new tank?!?! Just bought this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300357347682&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
2004 tank in darn nice condition. Now I need to sell more, lol. Hopefully sending out stem to Bob B. this week to have the spacer made as well. I might finish this thing before December at the rate I am going.
is the difference in the shape of the tank that dramatic between the pre 01 and he 04+?
Actually there is a major difference in the lower area near the seat. Look at Charlie's build and it will show you.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=34784.300
I'm surprised how well that seat fits on the new tank. Your bike's gonna look awesome when it's done. I was gonna look for one for my bike since the new tail I put on it is so wide, and the newer tanks look wider up front, but I decided to just deal with it. Plus the older tanks are super uncomfortable without that small pad from the front of the seat, and the corners dig into your thighs, so you'll appreciate not having to deal with that.
nfh
sdszstjtr
Looks good.
I like your build very much. I was planing to use monster tail with a cowl in my build too I think it's a masterpiece. Your breake arm is :cheers: it looks nice but (I don't know if I get it right) about the chain issue, you want to solve it with washers and move rear sprocket a bit left ?! :nono: It's not a good idea.
sszsdnzd
Lookin good! It's definitely much better with the new tank and lowered.
I think the issue with shimming out the rear sprocket is leaving the front sprocket in the same place (on a different plane than the rear). You want the sprockets to be aligned so that the chain runs straight, otherwise it can wear much faster along with the sprockets, and possibly worse. 1/8" difference may not seem like much, but it's definitely not the ideal solution.
Having said that, I did it for a while without thinking about it and didn't have any problems. I ended up selling the Kat wheel and putting it back to stock later though.
Looking great so far! :cheers:
can't he shim both rear and front sprocket, so they both go 1/8" to the left?
Looks really good!
I got a question for you:
Does the GS500F tank fit a standard GS500E frame w/o modifications? I'm considering buying a F model tank for '95 GS500E.
R.T.F.T. :2guns:
Quote from: centuryghost on November 25, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
R.T.F.T. :2guns:
:laugh:
The F tank is a drop in for my E. I don't have fairing mounts now though and that is what I wanted. The rubber neck piece fits as do the original mounts.
So, after reading the warnings, is shimming the sprocket not a good idea? I have read of tons of people doing this. Is it
really that big of deal?
Quote from: centuryghost on November 25, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
R.T.F.T. :2guns:
I read the thread, and saw that he had to modify the frame to fit the new tank. That's why I asked!
Quote from: bombjack on November 26, 2009, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: centuryghost on November 25, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
R.T.F.T. :2guns:
I read the thread, and saw that he had to modify the frame to fit the new tank. That's why I asked!
That would be the Ducati part of the frame though, not the GS. ;)
Quote from: bombjack on November 26, 2009, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: centuryghost on November 25, 2009, 02:40:25 PM
R.T.F.T. :2guns:
I read the thread, and saw that he had to modify the frame to fit the new tank. That's why I asked!
Just a bit of the ol' elbow in the ribs :cheers:
The break arm torq trick was very clever! What tire it is? Look phat.
What tire are you using for the rear? It looks huge! haha.
(For a GS, anyways)
That tire came on the rim and I am not using it. The PO did a last ditch burnout on it before taking it off the Katana. It is garbage. But it is a Dunlop Sportmax I believe. I am planning on Metzlers I think. Heck I don't know for sure but what ever fits is the goal. I want a great performing tire though. Need to research first.
What size is it?
I love where your bike is going. So much so, that I was considering doing a Monster subframe swap. But yours looks so good, that I'm not even gonna bother. :thumb:
Quote from: O.C.D. on December 02, 2009, 08:16:02 AM
That tire came on the rim and I am not using it. The PO did a last ditch burnout on it before taking it off the Katana. It is garbage. But it is a Dunlop Sportmax I believe. I am planning on Metzlers I think. Heck I don't know for sure but what ever fits is the goal. I want a great performing tire though. Need to research first.
I made a topic about that if your looking for a wide 160 tire that fit. I recommend you read it before you order a 160 that don't fit (even though using washer). BTW forget about any 160/70.
About the washer, many have done it, some up to 2 washer and no problems were repported. So I would you I would def go for it unless you wan't a scrawny rear tire that doens't need the chain to be shimed out.
I have a shinko raven 160/60. Haven't mounted it yet because my 150/70 is still not dead, but I have been told it's a good tire by legit members here, I took it because it was cheap. The BTO21 (BTO21R) (not BT020) is also big looking (maybe even bigger than the shinko raven) and suppose to be a good tire but it's way more expensive (at least were I live). However, it's has been reported that the shinko raven is a pain in the ass to make fit the bike (2 washer, still tight).
Don't forget to mount a radial on the front too!
What are you going to do about the undertail?
ssrmysry
I have used a bt21r on the katana rear wheel, it has great grip, but is a tight fit, like less than 1/8" with one washer. I now have a 150-70-17 pilot road and it has over 1/4" clearance, and looks just as wide from the rear, and grips just as good
Quote from: gsf500RR on December 02, 2009, 08:53:56 AM
Don't forget to mount a radial on the front too!
a radial rear with a bias front isnt a problem, its a bias rear with a front radial that you dont wanna do. some new bikes are coming factory with radial rear and bias front.
i didn't knew that :thumb:
any new pics?
I just read the whole thread and all I can say is... WOW.
Hats off O.C.D.
:thumb:
Greg - no new pics. It has been around 0* at night here. I need a garage heater.
Mauricio - thanks man. It will look bad-A$$ when done.
Quote from: O.C.D. on December 03, 2009, 09:20:56 AM
Greg - no new pics. It has been around 0* at night here. I need a garage heater.
Alright well what you got so fars is looking good, hope it wamrs up for ya so we can see more sweetness :thumb:
[p'ouiyumkjty
That looks perfect!
Woah someone who actually responded. This site is interesting. I would have thought more people would have said something. Oh well. Maybe I am partial to it all as it is cool to me.
Guess while I am complaining is there anyway that someone with time can shop/chop a rear white wheel with a red tank on there? I forgot the fender when I took the pic, but if someone was able to do that so I could get a look I would REALLY appreciate it.
I noticed that, for some reason, activity on this board during winter months is lower than it is during warmer months...
This may explain why not many people responded ;)
As to why the activity is low, I have a guess:
- People ride their bikes more in the summer and therefore have more stories to tell or more problems to fix.
On the other hand though, if I can't ride during winter I want to, at least, talk about motorcycles until I can ride again :D
PS. Very nice build, and good progress :)
man your bike is looking so good man!!!! im wanting to do a similar swap with the rear and all of this is so helpful to look at seriously. i might be sending you some pms and i get further into the planning of my mods haha. super sweet ideas though. it looks awesome
looks good....planning on some seperable clipons? also on the acewell...use a 1 MOhm resistor on the tach wire (if soldering direct to the CDI or coil as opposed to wrapping it around the spark plug wire.
Hey, it looks very awesome. I would've been much quicker to respond, but most of the time I spend on here is while I'm at work, and pictures never load when I'm there, so threads like this usually get passed over until I'm home and spend some time on here.
I really like the exhaust hanger, it came out really well. Considering you're ability fabricate/weld stuff, you should see about replacing that black plate that goes between the exhaust and the hanger. Those things have always been an eyesore. I spend a while trying to figure out what I wanted to do with mine, but just ended up replacing the hanger and that extra plate with a 1 or 1.5 inch wide strip of aluminum straight from the subframe to the back of the exhaust.
I don't want to go into too much detail because there's another thread on here at the very moment about welding, but what kind of welder do you use for that stuff? I'm looking to pick one up over winter and the biggest project I really need one to handle is being able to do subframes. I don't know much about them yet, so your answer can be basic since any details will be over my head anyway.
This is also one of the only(if not THE only) custom build I've seen out of a new styled GS. I love all the old ones, but that tank really makes this thing look much nicer as far as how the finished project will be, so it's gonna look great. I recently got one of the newer tanks for mine, and it made a world of difference in how well everything flows together.
grezjny
It start to look great. Did you solve the problem regarding lack of clearance between the chain and the tire?
Quote from: O.C.D. on December 19, 2009, 12:52:59 PM
I never really thought about the muffler bracket on the muffler as an issue until you said something, lol. Now I think I am going to modify it or thin it out at least. The majority of the exhaust weight is actually on the manifold I noticed. The hanger is obviously needed but I think it can be changed. I will look into it.
My bike is a '92! Maybe you didn't catch that?! I bought a new tank for the seat fitment issues that are apparent when adding a Ducati seat.
Haha, sorry about that. Maybe if you just find a strip of aluminum or thin steel you could try to wrap it around the exhaust like newer bikes have... (http://www.whitedogbikes.com/ccp51/media/images/product_category/Exhaust_Hanger_sm.jpg)
I didn't see that, I spent more time looking at the pictures than I did reading the posts. My bike is a '92 as well, I still need to find a new seat that will fit the tank better since I cut my old one flat to fit the old tank.
pm me your address, i shoudl have 4 extra resistors sitting around. This is soldered inline on the yellow tach signal wire. It was not included in my acewell packaging...nor even mentioned in the instruction manual. WIthout it your tach would keep flashing as it's way too high a signal it will think you're redlining any other time except idle.
i must say, you do nice work.. this thing is gonna be so sexy when it's done.. i'm a very jealous man right now
Quote from: tt_four on December 19, 2009, 07:44:27 AM
I don't want to go into too much detail because there's another thread on here at the very moment about welding, but what kind of welder do you use for that stuff? I'm looking to pick one up over winter and the biggest project I really need one to handle is being able to do subframes. I don't know much about them yet, so your answer can be basic since any details will be over my head anyway.
Forgot to respond to the welder question.
When I learned to weld it was with stick welding. Stick welding works, but it is messy and a lot of slag to clean up.
When I wanted to get one I knew I would at least get a wire feed and have it MIG capable. Wire feed is still kind of like stick welding but easier and has way more control. There is a little slag and not as bad to clean up. If I attach the MIG setup there should be little to no slag and the welds will be 100% more efficient.
I decided on a Lincoln 3200 Job Pack welder http://content.lincolnelectric.com/pdfs/products/navigator/im/im759.pdf
It is a 110 and can handle 5/16" plate. So far I absolutely love it because A. It is easy, and B. I got it brand new for really cheap.
If you are shopping around for one though do your research and fit your needs. In the end I should have bought a 220 but for now the little 110 is perfect.
jdkmu
Geez Louise. That shore is lookin' fine. I envy your time and skills! The front end looks great and the work you've done on the rear frame shows -- I think you made some good choices along the way. Have you thought ahead to paint scheme? What do you have planned there?
Believe it or not, stock color scheme. I love the look it had before as it screams late 80's/early 90's. I think the scheme is fitting. If you know about GS500's you will know it is not stock. But it is far from it. Either way I could care less if it looks different enough for people to notice. I just wanted to play around and make it better while still looking the same in the end.
So, I am going to color match the white, aluminum, and marble red. I think it will look great with gold forks and gold rotor centers.
I just need to start stripping the paint on the wheels but I cannot find the right stripper (lol).
Quote from: O.C.D. on December 18, 2009, 12:45:16 PM
Woah someone who actually responded. This site is interesting. I would have thought more people would have said something. Oh well. Maybe I am partial to it all as it is cool to me.
Guess while I am complaining is there anyway that someone with time can shop/chop a rear white wheel with a red tank on there? I forgot the fender when I took the pic, but if someone was able to do that so I could get a look I would REALLY appreciate it.
Sorry dude for not commenting sooner. Your Thread is the first one I look at followed by that guy zeusrekning that is making that awesome Sidewinder.
Anyway I think everything you are doing is on track and awesome! I get depressed looking at the pictures for I have a tiny unheated Garage and no more room 4 a project like yours. I have the 2 bikes now that no matter how much money you paid me I would not touch to do what you are doing as much as I would love to had I 3rd fixer upper and more room. Keep those pictures and idea/questions coming they are greatly appreciated for I live vicariously through both of you guys and your creativity and skills! :thumb:
srtjryksy
I am in love with this build!
Great work man.
That rear end looks real sexy. You're gonna love the brakes :D
Quote from: psyber_0ptix on February 15, 2010, 06:04:25 AM
That rear end looks real sexy. You're gonna love the brakes :D
LOL, I can tell they are going to stop on a dime. Heck, not even a dime, a hair. These things grab!!! There is a bet at work I am going to flip it the first day out, lol. I just might.
Man that's nice :thumb: I just want to get mine running again, haha.
Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FINALLY just won an SV650 headlight and mounting brackets after losing auctions for MONTHS. I am so happy as all that is left are the tires and paint. I don't need paint to ride it so this may be happening fairly soon.
Lame post, but I had to share. Those damn SV heads are $ and rare.
Quote from: O.C.D. on February 16, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FINALLY just won an SV650 headlight and mounting brackets after losing auctions for MONTHS. I am so happy as all that is left are the tires and paint. I don't need paint to ride it so this may be happening fairly soon.
Lame post, but I had to share. Those damn SV heads are $ and rare.
Congrats.. I am giddy to see this thing done.. :cheers:
Nice :thumb: Looking forward to seeing this all together.
I guess I got lucky in getting my SV headlight and brackets cheap. There was some slight rash, but not too noticeable.
Believe me Yev, I am more than giddy too!
How much did you get your SV head for? I got the light and the brackets for $60. I am more than happy. I literally have waited 6 months to get one cause they are rare and usually go for a lot.
I think it might have been due to the damage, but I got mine through the svrider forums for $25 shipped. To be honest, I'd have to say it was a steal...I think $60 is still a good deal.
It actually is! Those things are like gold, lol. Got any pics of yours mounted up?
This is back when I put it on, but it's the best shot I have of the headlight:
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/_badguy_/bike%20stuff/SVheadlight.jpg)
Here's a shot of the whole bike:
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/_badguy_/bike%20stuff/dscn1955.jpg)
Since then I've put the tail section back on, swapped to a naked-type master cylinder, and put the mirror on the left side. I really need to paint it, but that can wait until after I fit the track fairing...
OK, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I'm not real keen on your idea for the driver pegs. Do you plan to carve corners on this bike? I ground the pegs on my GS regularly in the twisties, even while hanging off. Solid mounted rearsets would be create a dangerous lever if you ever lean enough to drag them. I like the idea of the roundstock, but I sincerely hope you consider fabricating some sort of hinge on those things.
I don't want you to think I'm disrespecting your work...it's top-notch. I just wanted to share a concern. Good luck!
Quote from: oramac on February 17, 2010, 07:04:02 PM
OK, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I'm not real keen on your idea for the driver pegs. Do you plan to carve corners on this bike? I ground the pegs on my GS regularly in the twisties, even while hanging off. Solid mounted rearsets would be create a dangerous lever if you ever lean enough to drag them. I like the idea of the roundstock, but I sincerely hope you consider fabricating some sort of hinge on those things.
I don't want you to think I'm disrespecting your work...it's top-notch. I just wanted to share a concern. Good luck!
Thanks for the reminder oramac.
I tried finding it but don't know what to search for, but there is a video on youtube of a guy going around a corner at Deals Gap. He has fixed pegs. As he leans, he hits the pegs. Which slightly lifts the bike. He loses rear wheel traction and low sides.
Nope. Just found it. Happens in the 1st minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLTRf1MU6I
Michael
It's definitely true that fixed pegs can lever a bike's weight off the tires if you lean on them enough. However, nearly all race/track bikes have fixed pegs, the main difference being that they're situated higher to give more cornering clearance. Still, pegs drag on the track from time to time and don't always cause wrecks, you just have to know where your limits are. Once you feel it dragging a little, don't lean any more. It's even possible for hinged pegs to cause a lowside if you have enough weight on them...
(I know it's not that simple, but I'm just saying he's not completely :cookoo:)
I agree with that. However, he's not creating a full on 'race-prep' track bike. If he was, it wouldn't have GS peg locations. They would have to be back and up to allow more clearance. GS pegs in their stock location are easy to drag. That is why I'm concerned. If he had fabbed up some modified rearsets and relocated the pegs, then I wouldn't be quite as alarmed, but these are welded to the stock locations.
Plus, I quantified my argument by asking at the beginning if he planned on corner carving. If he is, then there won't be a lot he can do to adjust his line once he's committed.
If this is more for 'show' than 'go', then I retract my statements. But, c'mon...it's got a GSX-R front end and a Ducati tail...it will have to be able to 'go'.
Good points :cheers:
The pegs, well, I knew what I was doing when I made that choice. In my heart I know I will hit them. But I also know that I have shortened them as well. It is a catch 22 for me as I wanted something more secure than half rubber GS mounts. I also did not want to buy something to hack up and make work. I have a real problem with half-@$$ stuff.
I have thought about the design and what I can change. I do believe that I will be diagonally cutting them to increase clearance. But I will not be too afraid. :thumb:
I guess I will let you all know when I low-side her. :icon_eek:
Quote from: mister on February 17, 2010, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: oramac on February 17, 2010, 07:04:02 PM
OK, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but I'm not real keen on your idea for the driver pegs. Do you plan to carve corners on this bike? I ground the pegs on my GS regularly in the twisties, even while hanging off. Solid mounted rearsets would be create a dangerous lever if you ever lean enough to drag them. I like the idea of the roundstock, but I sincerely hope you consider fabricating some sort of hinge on those things.
I don't want you to think I'm disrespecting your work...it's top-notch. I just wanted to share a concern. Good luck!
Thanks for the reminder oramac.
I tried finding it but don't know what to search for, but there is a video on youtube of a guy going around a corner at Deals Gap. He has fixed pegs. As he leans, he hits the pegs. Which slightly lifts the bike. He loses rear wheel traction and low sides.
Nope. Just found it. Happens in the 1st minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLTRf1MU6I
Michael
Interesting video. I think I will measure the angle before I paint it. If need be, I will hack them off and find something foldable to weld on.
wow random mention from the first page...I've always wanted a Goose 350...and a Yamaha Morpho lol
Good build! You sound a lot like me with your throwing on front ends and wheels worth nearly 3x the value of the completed bike...
That a great idea to hold up the front end of the bike! I have to break out my ladder. Thanks.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/_badguy_/bike%20stuff/SVheadlight.jpg)
Dang OCD, I really need to get going on my project and maybe this summer we can take the 2 out on an outing.
I am just up 83 in Parker, my time has been very limited though so the project has been a little slower than I would like.
yours is looking great.
Mine will be not nearly as nice, gonna be more of a ratfighter budget performer.
it would be neat to compare side by side knowing they started as the same but are completely different.
keep up the good work man.
Hells yes we should meet up after we are both finished and take some pics. That would be cool. Not many GS's around here, especially modded ones.
Carb teardown, lol. This is too easy. Pics to come............... :whisper:
Quote from: seamax on February 18, 2010, 11:59:48 AM
That a great idea to hold up the front end of the bike! I have to break out my ladder. Thanks.
Haha, glad I could help.
Quote from: O.C.D. on February 18, 2010, 07:24:38 PM
Carb teardown, lol. This is too easy. Pics to come............... :whisper:
mmmm pics :thumb:
antnarmtayrm
saemarymy
First off. This is a sweet build. Thanks for the pics. As for carbs I agree with everything you said; except the fun factor takes a nose dive if they dont work after you button the whole thing up!
:thumb:
Can't wait until I can put mine back together...
This build is amazing. That's all I can say.
Great work.
.i,umnbgdf
:bowdown: them rotors sure are purty!
jealous am I.
cant wait to see this thing completed.
nice pics. the 4th pic down...what is that part?
Damn man! Your bike is looking awesome!
Quote from: kylegod on February 23, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
nice pics. the 4th pic down...what is that part?
That is the needle assembly according to Bike Bandit. I am not the man to ask, lol. But I looked it up.
#33 http://www.bikebandit.com/showschematic/m6052sch244817
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on February 24, 2010, 10:56:20 AM
Damn man! Your bike is looking awesome!
Thanks man, it has been a fun build. Lots of time and money. Speaking of, when are we going to see your's?
Hey if you want to play around with crazy carb stuff talk to Jesse at Kientech racing about different DR350 carbs. They're the same carb as the GS but theres a couple different models including some crazy mechanical advance stuff on the 97+SE models AND he knows some cool tricks for milking the last bit of HP out of them. He's considered one of the gods of the DR350. Imagine if he and Buhda made some bastard child... it'd be like the Chuck Norris of carbs!
BTW: Your bike (and PsyberOptix's) is one of the most beautiful lightly modified GS500's I've ever seen. It gives me wood man, I swear! Lol, seriously your bike was one of the deciding factors on my build. I can post pix if you wanna see.
Quote from: MXFun86 on February 25, 2010, 02:20:39 AM
[...] I can post pix if you wanna see.[...]
what you mean IF we want to see?? Didn't you learn by now that we ALWAYS, want to see pics ;)
oliykujtyrhrf
If those rotors stop as good as they look you're going over the handlebars ;)
Quote from: O.C.D. on February 19, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
Well, I guess I was scared for no reason. I have had the carbs sitting on the bench n the hobby room for months cause I was hesitant to tear into them. After doing it now though, I don't know why I waited. I had more fun learning about the carbs than I have had building the bike. They are really easy when you get down to the brass tacks, or brass jets, lol.
First bowl.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/001-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/004-1.jpg)
O-rings were crunchy, lol.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/002-1.jpg)
New rings.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/003-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/005-1.jpg)
All clean.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/006-1.jpg)
New main, the previous owner had a 140 in there. So the 150 is in now.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/007-1.jpg)
It was with this picture that I realized how every manufacturer did/does carbs on a parallel engine. They simply make 2 or 4 and put em together, that is it, lol. (I am joking)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/010.jpg)
The throttle bodies were pretty clean I thought.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/008-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/009.jpg)
Looks like a little exhaust blow back.
Cleaned both the choke slides.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/011.jpg)
The other bowl was even cleaner?!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/012.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/013.jpg)
Thee o-rings were toast though.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/014.jpg)
Ready for a carb cleaning bath.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/015.jpg)
Random pic.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/016.jpg)
All the goods. The diaphragms were very soft still and no tears either.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/017.jpg)
All clean.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/018.jpg)
All cleaned, re-jetted, buttoned up and ready for new fuel lines.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/019.jpg)
So, what I learned, do your own carbs people. It really is that easy. I had fun learning about the way they work.
Laters,
Jon
Dude, I have to say TY. The attention to detail of the photos and description of what you are doing! I wish Buddha had a bank of pictures like this to refer to when he explains things.
Quote from: JB848 on February 26, 2010, 07:51:59 PM
Dude, I have to say TY. The attention to detail of the photos and description of what you are doing! I wish Buddha had a bank of pictures like this to refer to when he explains things.
I agree, but quoting 19 pictures in a thread is pretty annoying. :technical:
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on February 28, 2010, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: JB848 on February 26, 2010, 07:51:59 PM
Dude, I have to say TY. The attention to detail of the photos and description of what you are doing! I wish Buddha had a bank of pictures like this to refer to when he explains things.
I agree, but quoting 19 pictures in a thread is pretty annoying. :technical:
Especially while reading on a portable phone, lol.
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 01, 2010, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on February 28, 2010, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: JB848 on February 26, 2010, 07:51:59 PM
Dude, I have to say TY. The attention to detail of the photos and description of what you are doing! I wish Buddha had a bank of pictures like this to refer to when he explains things.
I agree, but quoting 19 pictures in a thread is pretty annoying. :technical:
Especially while reading on a portable phone, lol.
A portable phone! Man you're lucky...try it on a home phone :icon_eek:
Sorry, I'm just mad because I came in here expecting an update, haha.
Well, in the next day or so Colorado is finally hitting the 40's for highs. So, I will be playing in the garage. :thumb: Damn cold winter so far.....................
Hey, what kind of tool are you using you to cut the curved ends on your round bars before you weld them together? Once I get the hang of welding I'm probably just going to stick to square rods for a while because they only have to be cut straight, but things made out of round bars always looks so nice. The parts I'm referring to are the ends on the left side of this picture....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/018jpg-4.jpg)
4-1/2" Angle grinder and some swearing. Welding this tube is hard so it burns through easily. Making it pretty before hand is a moot point, lol.
That's cool, I didn't know if you had some kind of special tool that will cut different sized curves into the end of pipes, like a reamer or some kind of router.
What kind of welder are you using for all of this? Learning is one of my short term goals, but I definitely have no plans of being able to rebuild a subframe for fear of it falling off while I'm riding, but someday I'm gonna be looking to do some of that stuff.
iuytr
Hell yeah! Looking good 8)
That Acewell looks like it'll fit great up there on the triple.
looks good! hope you didn't do too much damage to your thumb!
That's a lot of pictures! Damn work firewalls. Can't wait to get home to check it out!
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on February 28, 2010, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: JB848 on February 26, 2010, 07:51:59 PM
Dude, I have to say TY. The attention to detail of the photos and description of what you are doing! I wish Buddha had a bank of pictures like this to refer to when he explains things.
I agree, but quoting 19 pictures in a thread is pretty annoying. :technical:
I was just trying to make a point (http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/121/937/1833649-worthless.gif)
So if I want your opinion I will ask for it! What's more annoying is people posting large pictures or people thread jacking and not talking about the subject at hand like I just did to address your comment. But you can say what you want that's why I like this forum and sorry to others that had to scroll through all the pics on smart phones.
Hey, I will look at my own pics any day, lol. :cheers:
You are a mad man! I love this build so much!
Also, where did you get those side covers and how much?
Thanks,
Yev
Hi looking good but in the photo looking at the rear of the subframe it looks like its about an inch more to the left.
Quote from: Yev on March 06, 2010, 12:19:05 PM
You are a mad man! I love this build so much!
Also, where did you get those side covers and how much?
Thanks,
Yev
http://www.bikebandit.com/2006-suzuki-motorcycle-gs500f/o/m9752
13: EMBLEM,CONTACT 2922152-001 Enter 0-99 $12.52
Quote from: JAY W on March 06, 2010, 02:05:54 PM
Hi looking good but in the photo looking at the rear of the subframe it looks like its about an inch more to the left.
Oh crap, I built it crooked?!?!?! LMAO In the picture I was not in the middle of the frame while standing behind it. :kiss3:
looking real good! I'd love to do an sv headlight someday; i just took my bike out of hibernation.
did I ever send that resistor to you? I forgot, i had a lot going on over this winter.
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Nope, in fact I was going to pm you about it as I forgot which one I needed. Can you maybe tell me which one and I can go to the shack to buy a few?
you need a 1 megaohm 1/4 watt resistor wired inline on the yellow tach wire. Sorry i dropped the ball on that, i am staring at 5 of them right in front of me. It's up to you, if you want to run out and get, or if you can wait till i buy stamps lol.
:icon_lol:
HAHAHAHAHAHA I did the same thing with a high speed cutoff wheel. Kinda burns the flesh away instead of cut... It was all hard and crusty, and looked more like it melted the skin....
rwefcwc
I like the wheel stripes!
RED FTW!
Red it has been, lol. Did them all up last Saturday. Clenaed the rear sprocket carrier, axles, mounts, ground the swing arm for the R6 shock, mounted the rear tire, mounted sv headlight, and many other things. It is back on two wheels.
I am about done sanding the tank of any blue from before, lol. Pics tonight.
Got two of these coming so I don't eat it when getting low.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/Untitled.jpg)
good idea :thumb:
Those footpegs look like they pivot backwards, not up. What's the deal with that??
I've made it my life's goal to find these in a size big enough to fit around a fork tube...
(http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images/strapshangers/strapshangers.gif)
I know they exist because I've seen people use them as headlight bracket straps, but they're so much harder to find than you'd ever imagine.
Quote from: tt_four on March 16, 2010, 02:42:34 PM
Those footpegs look like they pivot backwards, not up. What's the deal with that??
I've made it my life's goal to find these in a size big enough to fit around a fork tube...
(http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images/strapshangers/strapshangers.gif)
I know they exist because I've seen people use them as headlight bracket straps, but they're so much harder to find than you'd ever imagine.
The pegs pivot up and back. If you're going around a corner at 30 mph and touch a peg to the ground, you want some aft flexibility as well - not just upward. They look like the stock GSXR pegs...at least that's what they do.
As for the strap hanger, you didn't like the ones at McMaster-Carr? (that's where the image is from...did you get it from a google search or did you know they sold them?)
The GS forks are about 1.5" in diameter, and McMaster has some that should fit: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/1497/=68x6an (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/1497/=68x6an). It looks like they come in packs of 10 and you get to choose zinc plated steel or stainless, and EPDM rubber or silicone insulators. The part numbers I found were 3225T9 ($5.78), 3225T49 ($7.78), 3225T29 ($7.98), 3225T69 ($9.96).
They have those straps at the local ace hardware. Not sure if they have metric sized but possibly close enough to clamp down on a fork tube.
No more ace hardwares around here. That link to McMaster Carr does look like it would work. I tried looking for them when I was on there, but I'm new to that website and couldn't find them on there. I'll have to dig around more to see what I can find.
Since you're obviously better at searching than I am, do you see any like the Rubber cushioned loop clamps where the ends meet in the middle, and not the side of the loop? So when I put them on the fork with the tabs facing forward they'd be right in the center of the forks? I'm sure I could just bend the normal "P" shaped ones. I wonder what I could find just to make some of those with.
I know pegs need to come back as well as up, the picture made it look like they would only flex backwards. Must have been the angle of the picture.
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 11, 2010, 08:14:38 AM
Sweet rubber! Metzeler Sportec M3's. 120/70 Front and 160/60 Rear. These things are straight up nice! I have never felt stickier rubber, lol.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/055jpg.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/056jpg.jpg)
Yeah, you will like. I had M1 and M3. Only got about 3000 miles on the rears. Now I have Roadriders. There are no twisties here in SE Georgia, but I can tell the difference. But maybe I'll get 6000 miles +.
Quote from: tt_four on March 16, 2010, 05:56:37 PM
No more ace hardwares around here. That link to McMaster Carr does look like it would work. I tried looking for them when I was on there, but I'm new to that website and couldn't find them on there. I'll have to dig around more to see what I can find.
Since you're obviously better at searching than I am, do you see any like the Rubber cushioned loop clamps where the ends meet in the middle, and not the side of the loop? So when I put them on the fork with the tabs facing forward they'd be right in the center of the forks? I'm sure I could just bend the normal "P" shaped ones. I wonder what I could find just to make some of those with.
I'm not sure they make ones that meet in the middle, but you should be able to bend them to fit like you said. The part numbers I listed should pull up the right size straps if you put them in the search box on McMaster's site. They're the four different choices (zinc-plated or stainless and type of insulator).
Quote from: tt_four on March 16, 2010, 05:56:37 PM
I know pegs need to come back as well as up, the picture made it look like they would only flex backwards. Must have been the angle of the picture.
Haha sorry, I came off like an ass. I wasn't trying to make you look dumb...I guess I'm just a little too blunt sometimes.
uiyjtyr
red tank, red cowl, black front fender
Looks great man! I need a seat cowl bad! Where did you find your license plate bracket?
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 18, 2010, 12:11:10 PM
Looks great man! I need a seat cowl bad! Where did you find your license plate bracket?
Seat cowl on Ebay was $50 I got lucky! They are usually a lot more.
Fender Eliminator - http://secure.compwerkes.com/Detail.bok?no=299
I also go that on Ebay for $15 cheaper.
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 18, 2010, 01:23:16 PM
Seat cowl on Ebay was $50 I got lucky! They are usually a lot more.
Fender Eliminator - http://secure.compwerkes.com/Detail.bok?no=299
I also go that on Ebay for $15 cheaper.
Wow, you did get lucky! I look almost every day for a cowl.
That fender eliminator is a little pricy for me, I found this one today. I'll probably use it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230444899419&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Your bike is looking awesome! I agree with the color schemes..... if you can find matching red paint I'd paint the tank red, if not just paint the tank and cowl black. The headlight brackets look like an easy fix. I'd either get some rubber or nylon spacers(I used some leftover fuel line as spacers to go between my tail and the subframe, works great), or else I'd just bend the brackets so they point out a little bit, and then twist the hole setup inward.
that does look awesome. you should have put some anti corrosive under the primer though. primer would work on a prt like the gas tank though. you should have sanded and primed the seat cover too. get rid of any scratches and paint it all. or did you plan on keeping the red?
uytre
Guys, the primer was to prevent surface rust!!! I am not leaving ti that way at all.
I am going to match the cowl and tank after I properly prep both. I wouldn't make it this far to not paint it right?! :cookoo:
DAMN!
I agree with gregvhen - try red cowl and tank with a black fender.
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 18, 2010, 02:30:50 PM
Holy change Batman. Look at the difference. I am very happy now after seeing this. :cheers:
Good idea! Here is my comparison pic.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/Comparecopy.jpg
Great work man. I love the subframe and....hell I love it all! :cheers:
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 18, 2010, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 18, 2010, 02:30:50 PM
Holy change Batman. Look at the difference. I am very happy now after seeing this. :cheers:
Good idea! Here is my comparison pic.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/Comparecopy.jpg
Great work man. I love the subframe and....hell I love it all! :cheers:
I say :cheers: :woohoo: :bowdown: to you, Psyber, and I for being the dumbest smart people on this site with GSXR FE's, lol.
Quote from: tt_four on March 18, 2010, 02:03:50 PM
The headlight brackets look like an easy fix. I'd either get some rubber or nylon spacers(I used some leftover fuel line as spacers to go between my tail and the subframe, works great), or else I'd just bend the brackets so they point out a little bit, and then twist the hole setup inward.
I need to retract that previous statement. I thought the gap you were talking about was in the 2nd picture where the headlight wasn't reaching the other mounting bracket. Now that I look at them better I see you're talking about the sv headlight fitting inside that chrome outer ring, and not the other part. I'm confused though, did you just but the SV light and are trying to fit in into the GS body?? Why didn't you just pick up the whole gs headlight? Looks great either way though.
i am very much in like with your tail end. lmk how you like the clipons, i get fatigued after a while because of it's placement. I might order SWATT 1" risers.
If you're only lifting them one inch, I've seen plenty of guys just flip their clipons. Put the left on the right side, and the right on the left side, and angle them upwards. It gives you a slightly more dirtbike bar feel. It's free to try at least.
u,ymntbr
Red Tank :cheers:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTank.jpg)
Tank was super easy to change the color. Fender was a little harder.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTankFender.jpg)
Thanks man! I wish those dang rings weren't glowing so I wasn't so distracted visually.
What about a black frame on either of those?
Maybe black frame and cowl/tank/fender too?
Thanks again!
I'll give it a try.
I could go either way. I really like it both ways with the red or black fender. I know black always looks good, but I feel like with how much work you put into it, you should stick with red instead of black. No one's even going to tell it doesn't look like a GS anymore if it's all black, or they'll just assume that it's a ducati because it'll all blend in. If you do paint it black, you should paint the frame and swingarm black as well.
I really dig this color combo!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTankBlackFramecopy.jpg)
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 19, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
I really dig this color combo!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTankBlackFramecopy.jpg)
Yup, that one gets my vote. Of course, we all know the blue ones are faster! :icon_razz:
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 19, 2010, 07:56:05 AM
I thought you already got the Swatt risers?! I am sure I will not like the Gixxer clips. But I will accept it as an opportunity cost for the swap, lol.
I had SWATT 2,5" and they were too tall for the brake line. I didn't have enough money to buy some new braided lines so I just went back to stock gsxr.
i think keep the fender red.. to match evrything else and the frame black is :thumb:
BLACK FENDER
RED FENDER
RED FENDER
RED FENDER
Quote from: gregvhen on March 20, 2010, 06:01:58 PM
BLACK FENDER
Definitely +1 on the BLACK FENDER! this whole project is looking pretty amazing :thumb:
Quote from: remo2k9 on March 20, 2010, 06:28:37 PM
RED FENDER
+1 TO THE RED FENDER GOOD IDEA REMO! :) :thumb:
Black fender...with red stripes down the center.
Black frame
Black fender
Red tank
Red cowl
:thumb:
black frame
red tank
red fender
red cowl
Quote from: remo2k9 on March 20, 2010, 08:41:46 PM
black frame
red tank
red fender
red cowl
no matter how many times you post red fender it wont make the red fender look any better or nearly as good as the black fender will/does look ;)
have you ever thought of puttin in a mudgauard ur bike will look 10x awesomer wit that
Charlie - thank you soooooo much for the color options.
The more and more I look at it I cannot decide. I am really liking that black frame though. Damn I am sad though as it is looking nothing like I wanted when I started the project. But I guess that is the point, right?! Make it unique and different.
I dunno guys and gals, looks like the fender is gonna be black so far. I might do a gun metal frame or something. Might need to break up the colors.
I can do more than solid colors to. heck I can even airbrush cheesy skulls on it or something?! :woohoo:
Ok, how bout:
Silver frame
Black cowl
Black tank
Black fender
White Suzuki decal (the name, not symbol) on the tank
Can you do this last one for me Charlie?
thanks again.
Jon
If you airbrush skulls on this bike I'll personally ride out to CO and kick you square in the nuts...I've always wanted to ride around CO, haha.
I don't know, in general skulls are pretty cheesy, but I saw this bike on craigslist earlier and the right side picture is pretty bad-assed.
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/mcy/1653441102.html
(http://images.craigslist.org/3k83od3l05Y25U65Pba3kaad7dcbee6f3116a.jpg)
Sorry to everyone who tries to look at this post in 2 weeks, because it's on craigslist and obviously isn't going to be there too long before it turns into a red x in a box
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 21, 2010, 09:16:24 AM
Ok, how bout:
Silver frame
Black cowl
Black tank
Black fender
White Suzuki decal (the name, not symbol) on the tank
Can you do this last one for me Charlie?
thanks again.
Jon
Sure.
Guys, if I paint skulls on this bike I will grow a "Speed Mullet", tear up my old Def Leppard T-Shirts, rip more holes in my old acid washed jeans, and then run in traffic. (Yes, I was young in the 80's, but I have it all!!!) :whisper:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDBlack.jpg)
Now I am just frustrated. I wish I could just do the damn white wheels with red cowl/tank/fender and leave the frame the same color.
I think I might just scrap the black wheel idea. :mad:
Def Leppard sucks
Color is a hard choice. I would go with silver frame, red tank and cowl, black fender, black wheels.
If I ever repaint mine I think I will go with a british racing green. I think it would look awesome with my gold wheels. Similar to this color.
(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery/Ducati%20998%20Matrix%20%201.jpg)
Quote from: tt_four on March 22, 2010, 09:06:56 AM
Def Leppard sucks
And now Mr. Bond you shall die!!!!
white wheels with red cowl/tank/fender
This will be my last one Charlie
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 22, 2010, 09:07:53 AM
If I ever repaint mine I think I will go with a british racing green. I think it would look awesome with my gold wheels.
Aww, haha, your gs could match my moped...
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4446328569_ee7ea76a0e.jpg)
Cool moped!
I failed miseriably at changing the color of the wheels.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTankFenderwhite.jpg)
get this
http://www.motodynamic.com/product_info.php?cPath=17_18&products_id=181
(http://www.motodynamic.com/images/D-MST-S-1-L.jpg)
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 22, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
Cool moped!
I failed miseriably at changing the color of the wheels.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTankFenderwhite.jpg)
The damn shiny rim stripes, lol. On a black wheel they are awesome but on a white wheel not so much.
Overall though, this is what I think I should do.
Thanks again Charlie.
Quote from: aaronjosephward on March 22, 2010, 12:46:43 PM
get this
http://www.motodynamic.com/product_info.php?cPath=17_18&products_id=181
(http://www.motodynamic.com/images/D-MST-S-1-L.jpg)
Thought about it but I am not sure yet. I think if I do red cowl I want a red light still. That was the original idea at least.
black wheels look better keep the clour red... it looks awesome,... red tank red cowl Black fender , black wheels! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: ULL REGRET CHANGING IT! IT LOOKS GOOD NOW!
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 22, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
Cool moped!
Thanks, once the last package shows up in a day or two I should have anything needed to get it cruising at 50mph, and hopefully pulling some wheelies.
As far as the paint job, I've studied all the pictures so far, and the decision is....
-If the tank and tail are going to be red, the fender needs to be red.
-If you want to paint it red, but don't want to repaint the frame, the wheels need to be painted white
-If you want to paint it red, but want to leave the wheels black, you need to paint the frame black
-Black tank and black wheels looks really slick. I usually try to encourage color, but black always looks the coolest, even with the silver frame. The only combination we haven't seen is black paint, black wheels, and black frame, so it's hard to tell if that would look better than the silver frame or not. Maybe glossy body work and matte frame?
-No black fender with a red tank and cowl
-No silver frame with red paint and black wheels
-Even though I think the wheels look better white than they do black with the silver frame, it keeps the bike looking a little early 90's GSish, and you've worked too hard for that.
thanku TTFOUR =] RED FENDER WINS :thumb: :thumb:
eh the white wheels would look nicer then black IF ther was no red rim tape.. but i say keep the black wheels cause the red rime tape looks awesmoe jst repaint ur frame black.... :)
Quote from: tt_four on March 22, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 22, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
Cool moped!
-If the tank and tail are going to be red, the fender needs to be red. I agree
-If you want to paint it red, but don't want to repaint the frame, the wheels need to be painted white I agree
-If you want to paint it red, but want to leave the wheels black, you need to paint the frame black I agree
-Black tank and black wheels looks really slick. I usually try to encourage color, but black always looks the coolest, even with the silver frame. The only combination we haven't seen is black paint, black wheels, and black frame, so it's hard to tell if that would look better than the silver frame or not. Maybe glossy body work and matte frame? I agree
-No black fender with a red tank and cowl I agree
-No silver frame with red paint and black wheels I agree
-Even though I think the wheels look better white than they do black with the silver frame, it keeps the bike looking a little early 90's GSish, and you've worked too hard for that. I agree
Basically I want my cake and to eat it too. This is all true what you have said and I agree, lol.
I either need to make it a 80's/90's GS like I want or make it look more modern which I have done inadvertently. I never planned to do this but the parts have made it newer and that is not a bad thing just what happened.
I now see it as needing fairing as well?! that is what kills me. I want to add some fairing and then have a really nice amount of stuff to paint. I think I could get all liter-bike creative.
If you build 3 more of them you can have one of each paint scheme. What kind of fairings are you thinking about? just a front one, or full fairing? I'm not sure how the tail would look with a full front fairing. If you really want to paint more, maybe try a bellypan and a flyscreen.
ssfsf
hey OCD,
I was wondering where you bought the engine crash guards? I've been searching around for it, but it's really difficult to find it at a decent price. got any advice for it?
SW-Motech is the brand. They came on the bike. Psyber Optix on here bought some a little while ago so I would ask him. Sorry I can't help more.
Quote from: Anaconda on March 30, 2010, 02:24:19 AM
hey OCD,
I was wondering where you bought the engine crash guards? I've been searching around for it, but it's really difficult to find it at a decent price. got any advice for it?
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Suzuki/GS_500_K4_K5/04-05/picture/Engine_Bars_-_Black/ (http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Suzuki/GS_500_K4_K5/04-05/picture/Engine_Bars_-_Black/)
That's where I ordered my set from. I've ordered stuff from those guys a few times and have always been very pleased. It's a pretty reasonable price too, especially considering that they're in the UK.
Impressive work. Is it me or the GSXR fork is short than the stock GS? (wich mean the bike will be more forward)
They are almost identical to the GS actually. They look alot shorter but they are really spot on. I think the thickness and USD setup makes them look all squaty.
Ordering the last parts right now!!!! GOld EK X-Ring chain and some new EBC HH's for the front. Then I am finished with parts!
Quote from: Anaconda on March 30, 2010, 02:24:19 AM
hey OCD,
I was wondering where you bought the engine crash guards? I've been searching around for it, but it's really difficult to find it at a decent price. got any advice for it?
Another source: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=51044.0
Man this is awesome.
Quote from: Anaconda on March 30, 2010, 02:24:19 AM
hey OCD,
I was wondering where you bought the engine crash guards? I've been searching around for it, but it's really difficult to find it at a decent price. got any advice for it?
I got my SW-Mowtec's from twisted throttle because it's a local shop in Rhode Island.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/1998/479/
vcxadscscda
F*cking awsome I'm jealous :cry:
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 31, 2010, 10:57:25 AM
They are almost identical to the GS actually. They look alot shorter but they are really spot on. I think the thickness and USD setup makes them look all squaty.
Ordering the last parts right now!!!! GOld EK X-Ring chain and some new EBC HH's for the front. Then I am finished with parts!
AH ok, but if they are identical, then why don't you lower the front a bite?? Because stock there is something like 2cm between the upper clamp and the top of the fork :dunno_black:
(http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/uploads/Upgrades/233roadracing.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/Suzati%20Build/002jpg-9.jpg)
freakin beauty full!
very nice work.
unfortunately my GS is nowhere near yours as far as completion.
she got pushed to the side for now and has a new stable mate with an emblem exactly as what is on your rear cowl
:woohoo: for me
:sad: for Project purple rain as she will only be finished to sell, unless my wife is really really nice nice and lets me keep both twins.
Keep it up, cant wait to see it on the road.
I was wondering when you were ever gonna come around.
What Duc did you get?
The wife said next year that I can get a Streetfighter in the fall. Over 3 times the horsepower of the GS, I can't wait!
Oh hell yes :thumb:
One suggestion though now that I can see her in the light: any chance you can trim the bottom of the seat so that it flows with the bottom of the tail? I think that's pretty much the finishing touch (aside from paint).
Quote from: O.C.D. on April 05, 2010, 02:57:54 PM
I was wondering when you were ever gonna come around.
work and life has been crazy
What Duc did you get?
A 1995 916, I was a senior in high school when this bike graced the showroom and went to Laguna seca that year and wet myself over all the 916's on Ducati island.wanted one ever since and after 15 years the price has dropped enough to allow me to afford one.
The wife said next year that I can get a Streetfighter in the fall. Over 3 times the horsepower of the GS, I can't wait!
I dont like you anymore, your gs is way nicer than mine and if you get a streetfighter, well the 916 is a timeless classic but that streetfighter (red S) does to me now what the 916 did to me in '95, jerk! :D
A quick pic then I will unhijack
(http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/th_duc003.jpg) (http://s914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/?action=view¤t=duc003.jpg)
Quote from: brianut on April 06, 2010, 06:08:58 AM
Quote from: O.C.D. on April 05, 2010, 02:57:54 PM
I was wondering when you were ever gonna come around.
work and life has been crazy
What Duc did you get?
A 1995 916, I was a senior in high school when this bike graced the showroom and went to Laguna seca that year and wet myself over all the 916's on Ducati island.wanted one ever since and after 15 years the price has dropped enough to allow me to afford one.
The wife said next year that I can get a Streetfighter in the fall. Over 3 times the horsepower of the GS, I can't wait!
I dont like you anymore, your gs is way nicer than mine and if you get a streetfighter, well the 916 is a timeless classic but that streetfighter (red S) does to me now what the 916 did to me in '95, jerk! :D
A quick pic then I will unhijack
(http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/th_duc003.jpg) (http://s914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/?action=view¤t=duc003.jpg)
I don't mean to be rude but how dare you post a carboned-out, Termi'd exhaust, one of my all time favorite bikes ever- Ducati 916 in my puny little GS500 build thread!?!?!?!?!!? :technical: :technical: :technical: :technical: :technical: :technical: :technical:
Screaming nice bike Brian!!! I almost bought one this last fall but the wife said I should get a newer bike. "but Honey, it is a classic Ducati! Who cares if it is 15 years old, you should hear how it sounds!", I said. Nice grab, seriously. Makes the GS look like a Cracker Jack toy. Thanks for sharing!
The streetfighters look fun but I don't think any bike that Ducati has put out since has anything on the 916/748s, I know they get lighter and faster, but still, no other ducati's would make me jealous if I had a 916.
scscwefwec
Have you put any spacers/washers behind your sprocket yet? I did mine last week and the nuts holding the sprocket on are SO close to the swingarm. I guess there is no problem since they aren't touching.
Rear sprocket?! Not yet. Chain hasn't got here yet. I will though very soon.
What does the return cable on the GSXR do? All the bikes I've ever had only had the one able. I've seen plenty with 2, but never really been sure what it was needed for.
Same principle as opening the throttle, return energy to assure that the throttle closes and the gas intake is cut off.
I know the normal throttle cable comes up from the front and wraps over the top and towards the back of the bike, so when you twist the throttle it pulls the cable, and when you let go the spring from the carb will pull it back. Does this second cable wrap around the same direction doing the same exact thing, or does it come up from the back? I'll have to look it up on wikipedia or something later.
fsevwv
I forgot to mention the orange wire in question, it is in the blue box.
Oh, and what the heck is a sidelight circuit? For fun I put a bulb in it and it worked, :woohoo:
The turn signals being LEDs will definitely do exactly what you're saying. Either replace them with some bulb signals, or wire in the proper resistors or whatever they take. At the moment even if the light up your bike doesn't even think there are bulbs in it.
What's a passing circuit? You mean that button some bikes have that flashes the highbeam? Wouldn't that be on the left side? That's where it was on my last bike, but I guess they could all be different. I didn't think they really put any normal controls on the kill switch box.
I unfortunately don't know anything about starters. Did you try to bump start it just so you can at least try riding it? I know that's not the right answer but I get very impatient with things, and there's no way I'd be able to wait through a wiring fiasco to play on a bike.
Well, the bump start is irrelevant as there is no fuel or tank attached. I am trying to get it wired properly, then attach a separate petcock/small tank of fuel to tune the carbs without the tank on.
If this build has been a war, I have won 97% of the battles. To win the war though, these last three battles have to be finished. This is the part that takes the longest - the push.
I am getting all philosophical because I am so ready to be finished.
What is that other plug input that I added?
Guys, anyone else please?!
Not 100% sure on the LED's. The el cheapos that I bought were wired with the proper resistors on the board inside so there wasn't a need to add one in line as long as I also had an LED module in the rear that matched. I believe I read or found out that if I used an LED up front with a stock light in the rear, then the problem you are seeing was basically what you should see. I believe it has something to do with the proper resistance in the whole circuit and the flasher module can't handle it.
As for not starting, have you bypassed the interlock (Safety) switches at the side stand and clutch control? If not, you might want to consider that. I believe the interlock in the headlight it a white and yellow barrel plug and there is a female / male. You definitely want to try and trace that down but what I have found is that I can connect the female / male inside the headlight and get past the control.
The other connector is down near the solenoid. There is a Green wire? with a black blade style plug. The other end is barrel plug I believe. Anyway, connect those together and that should disable the sidestand.
The other thing is a grounding wire for the whole system but if you are seeing power, then that grounding wire might likely already be attached.
It sounds like you are really close.
I think I remember seeing something online that you plug into your LED turn signals and it gives them the proper resistance. I have no idea where or what it was called, so I'll let you search google for that one. Go ask around at customfighters.com. Someone there will definitely know.
As far as your tuning gas tank, I'll take a picture of the one I made when I was messing with my carbs. It was super easy and works really well, and it'll save you the half hour it took me to search around home depot for parts that'll work.
Jump the starter, make sure it turns, I have fought with what I thought was wiring for hours only to find out the starter its self was bad.
Next check to make sure the hot lead to the starter is in fact hot, and then check the signal wire.
My guess is that one of the safety's is blocking the signal wire from providing the signal to make that starter go. Neutral or clutch or side stand ect...
Would ya believe that neutral, side-stand, and clutch all work?! That is what is killing me.
Something else I thought of, the oil light is laways on. I think my issue lies in that orange wire that is not connected.
I am heading outside now and will try and take video from this handy dandy droid, lol.
Hey, I took some pictures of the bottle setup. I'm not going to post the actual pictures because I don't want to hog your build thread, so I'll just post links....
First is a picture of the whole setup. It's a water bottle, with a hose on one end and an air valve on the other...
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4555977513_ecb3d4e327_b.jpg
This is the air valve, it looks gross, but it's just gorilla glue. I cut the presta valve out of an old bicycle tube, cut the rubber around it to a smaller circle, screwed the locknut on the outside, then covered that in glue to seal it up.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/4555977211_c9d34cccc7_b.jpg
This picture came out awful, but it's hard to tell looking at the little screen on my camera. It's a 1/4 fitting that I picked up in the air compressor parts second at home depot. They had the same exact thing in the plumbing section but it cost more there. I drilled a hole in the cap, rubber washer, metal washer, and then the fitting.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/4556605778_9ca8b177b2_b.jpg
This is the back of the cap. I couldn't find any good sized nuts that went on it, so I picked up 3/8x1/4 reducer and cut the top threads off, then used it like a nut, again with the rubber washer and metal washer behind it.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3492/4555977371_847056ffa6_b.jpg
These are the fittings I used...
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Air-Compressors-Tools-Accessories/h_d1/N-5yc1vZb8mrZ60lu9/R-100000128/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
and
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Air-Compressors-Tools-Accessories/h_d1/N-5yc1vZb8mrZ60lu9/R-100026474/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
It helps to have a second cap too, so when you're done using it you can just screw a real lid on and seal it. The bicycle tube valve really helped. Without it you would get a vacuum in the bottle and it probably would stop letting gas out. The bicycle valves are really nice because they're made to easily let air in, but not out, so when gas drains and the bottle needs air it'll let some in, but if the bottle accidentally tips upside down or something it won't all spill out. You can press it in with your finger and it'll let air go either way, or you can screw the little nub on the end in and it won't let air in or out. It's nothing fancy but it's soooo much easier than messing with the gas tank. You could even fill this one up with enough gas for a couple trips around the block I'm sure.
That is a great setup - I am going to try her out once the wiring is set. Thanks for sharing. Heck I even say edit yourpost to show the pics. You can never be too helpful I think.
svsvwv
Quote from: O.C.D. on April 26, 2010, 08:35:08 AM
What I do have remaining are a yellow/white (I think), and an orange/red from the right side controls. That would be for the passing circuit. On the clutch side I have a black and white wire and orange remaining.
Is that orange/red really orange/blue? If so, it should go to the sidestand relay. The yellow/white goes to the left side control box, it supplies power to your headlight (both beams)
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That black and white/grey wire combo has a plug. I either lost the other end, or I never had it?! Below in the pic you can see where I added it for an idea.
Since you are using an Acewell gauge, that black/white and gray combo are connected not to a plug, but to a light bulb socket! Which would be for the speedometer and tachometer illumination!
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So, that remaining orange I connected to the black/grey plug part and the starter turned over. And it got really hot so I know that isn't right.
I don't know how that would make the starter turn, but you are correct: That isn't right.
cwewce
That's awesome you got it running!! Was the engine running well before you started your project, or do you still have some tuning to do before it's really ridable??
As far as the paint, do what I did... Just grab a couple cans of spray paint just to get it all one color so you can ride it for a month or two, then paint it for real when you're ready to take a break for a week. Mine will eventaully be repainted, but right now I just wanted to ride it, so I'll deal with making it pretty later. I've actually got a whole list of random things I need to do after I've got a couple hundred miles in.
Good luck on the signals. I tried to look online for the part you need, but I don't know what it's called, so I couldn't find it. I know they make things you can easily wire in with LED signals so your bike still gets enough resisitance and the relay will still flash, you'll just have to find out what it's called.
Quote from: tt_four on April 28, 2010, 08:26:33 AM
Good luck on the signals. I tried to look online for the part you need, but I don't know what it's called, so I couldn't find it. I know they make things you can easily wire in with LED signals so your bike still gets enough resisitance and the relay will still flash, you'll just have to find out what it's called.
These, possibly?
http://www.virtualvillage.com/led-bulb-load-resistors-for-motorbike-turn-signals-002511-043.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shcomp
This is what ya need.
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/16/scID/114/IMID/718
Don't know if you still have the turn signal indicator but this is what you need to get it working properly
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/16/scID/114/IMID/719
You can get them cheaper at other sites these just have the instructions in PDF on the site.
Mary
dccec
Someone just posted the diagrams in that thread about a GS going from 200 miles per tank to 150. I can tell you off the top of my head from just doing it a million times over winter... with everything on the bike, the front hose spot on the tank petcock connects to the frame petcock fitting closest to the rear wheel. The rear hose spot on the tank petcock connects to the frame petcock fitting closest to the front wheel, and closest to the outside of the frame. Those two lines don't cross, they're mounted like an upside down rainbow. The line to the carbs is the spot sticking out of the front of the frame petcock right next to the like to the tank, and the vacuum, well there's only one of those and it's on the back.
You willing to admit how much you've spent rebuilding it??
cdadce
I had to change the total above. I feel weird in putting out a number as it makes me feel like I am bragging which I am in no way doing. Yes, I could have bought a newer and better bike but this was a fun learning project for me. I now know how to wire/weld/build/paint/design/integrate better than before and this time I learned it on a motorcycle. That cannot have a price tag. :cheers:
I noticed you bought a total of 4 M18 x 1.5 plugs. I think you only used one? Is one type better than another for covering the tachometer port? I need one myself :whisper:
2 of the Toyota plugs would not clearance the valve cover and I didn't want to hack it up to make it fit. So I did more research and found the other kind that I used. I always buy 2 of things that I might modify. That way I can mess one up if need be.
Haha, I'll add it up at work tomorrow when I have a real keyboard. There's no way I'm using my computer calculator for that many numbers just with the numbers across the top.
Definitely a worth while project though. I've said before a suspension is really what makes a bike for me anymore, so a GS with a front end like that and a nice rear suspension is definitely worth about the same as some 600s out there. If I keep this bike around long enough I may someday do a front end swap. That combined with cleaning up the tail I have on mine would definitely make for something I was proud of.
Yup, you got it right. I could have bought a 2010 F model for less but it would still ride like a GS. So I have the components of a newer bike now and the only thing old is the engine; that only has 11,000 on it anyway.
Unfortunately I would never get rid of her because the value I have put into her is never what I would get back. So we are stuck for life, lol.
vwvwvwv
I would just get a smaller hose to fit that ducati resivoir if you want to ues it so bad.
This build looks fantastic -- one question though, why are you keeping the rear pegs? It doesn't look like you'll ever have passenger on there, and it would clean up the rear...
just my 2 cents (I'm sure everyone else has their 2 cents ;) ) i'm impressed with all the work that's gone into this so far! :thumb:
Quote from: gregvhen on May 03, 2010, 10:47:07 AM
I would just get a smaller hose to fit that ducati resivoir if you want to ues it so bad.
Any idea on the kind? Can I use fuel tubing or is that too much pressure? I am thinking it is.
psyber_0ptix and OCD I just need to say those are some crazy bikes. I'm just a young hobbiest getting into riding, but I love tinkering.
I got a lot of respect for guys are able to transform there bikes like that.
ccacda
THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND NINE DOLLARS DOT 52 cents LOL :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: u inspire me so much
Thanks for the subtlety Remo, lol. That is why I didn't post a price.
For what it is worth, I sold another hobby and the parts from this bike to buy about 90% of that stuff. My out of pocket has only been about 15-20% That and I bought parts for months so none of it has affected me financially. If I had it all to do again, I sure would! :thumb:
Now, is no one gonna comment on my rear? lol I love the way the sheet metal looks. No wires to show and very street fighter-ish.
The under tail cover looks great! I should have used sheet metal on mine instead of the ABS. I may change it one day, but for now I need to find a headlight and get the bike running again.
thats actually a good price to pay for a bike that floats ur boat in evryway and knowing that uve built it urself and no other has one jst liek that ! Original kind of lol and wats subtlety i tried searching google definitions =[ too many definitions! which one is correct?
Subtlety means not being obvious with something in a manor that doesn't bring attention. It was a joke. I laughed cause you just threw it out there. :woohoo:
Back on track. Charles, I was about to use the plastic idea but then I realized how the big boys use sheet metal on the StreetFighter place, lol. I thought I might as well try it and it worked so well. I am more pleased with the underside than any part so far. Plus, every part is removable for access, replacement.
If you look closely at my custom undertail it is actually this.....our winter boot tray, $3 at the local hardware store. Rigid but soft enough to work with.
(http://images.orgill.com/200x200/9847526.jpg)
http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/37-184-floor-mats/boot-tray-645302.aspx
Haha, I'm glad someone took the time to add it up. I saw all those numbers and got too lazy to do it myself, and forgot about it. That's a fair price for a really nice bike. As far as selling other hobbies, that's the way to go. Especially if you're married like I am, because it's tough to bogart the bank account and say "I'm saving this much of our money every month for a new motorcycle", instead I'm just selling off all the bicycle stuff I have hanging out in my garage and am hoping to pull a minimum of $2k, and from there I won't mind saving the last $1k I plan to spend. July is a 3 pay month so that'll help. Bicycles are a great hobby because if you know what you're doing they'll completely pay for themselves. I can't even tell you how many bikes I've actually gotten paid to ride just because I bought them, rode them for years, and then sold them for more when I was done, and obviously in this case it'll hopefully be worth 2/3rds of a motorcycle, or 100% of a scratched up and cracked one.
Both undertails look good. Sheet metal works great for custom jobs, but plastic looks a lot more 'finished', like it was meant to be that way, so they both work out. I'm hoping to do some work with fiberglass once I make some more progress on my tail. Right now I'm just a little too busy riding to care.
Quote from: O.C.D. on May 04, 2010, 07:19:16 AM
Now, is no one gonna comment on my rear?
"Nice ass. He must work out."
I have been hibernating for 6 months. I just went back and read everything I missed up until this point. All I can say is wow! Your dedication to getting the job done has far surpassed mine. I cleaned out the workspace in the garage and now I need to catch up. Hopefully I will keep the updates coming as quickly as yours have been.
You are so close to the goal I can almost smell the exhaust! Keep it up man.
Ok, I have video to prove it, but the Custom Led Electronic Flasher Relay works!!! I hardwired the new relay into the old relay lines and it works. NO crossover needed, no Kurykan diode either! I simply spliced it in and voila!
Guys, if you go all LED buy this!
http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm
Wish I would have known that two years ago. Probably would have saved alot of chest pains! :2guns:
BTW nice a$$
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on May 05, 2010, 10:02:09 AM
Wish I would have known that two years ago. Probably would have saved alot of chest pains! :2guns:
BTW nice a$$
Mary
Sweet, Mary likes my butt, lol.
As for the LED flasher, I was so happy it did what it was described as being able to do. Not many things in this world work like that for me.
Well, I have found failure to work exactly how I expect it. Along with disappointment coming in at a suprisingly close second. It also achieved at a ratio of almost 4 to 1 (failure/success) and sometimes greater. It's never too late to try. Get some failure today! ;)
Quote from: cosmiccharlie on March 19, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
I really dig this color combo!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/bugpower72/Suzuki%20GS500/OCDRedTankBlackFramecopy.jpg)
Hey Charles. I know you are busy, but can you do me a chop on this. Make the frame more charcoal and include the rear sub as well. Make the red a more deep italian red.
Almost the same so to speak but with more definite colors:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/audilaser.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bluej/hyundai.jpg)
The colors are not spot on, but you get it.
I'll see what I can do this weekend. :thumb:
Thank you sir!
Oh, and I will have the arm ready to ship tomorrow before I go to Cali for the week. :thumb:
cswcewec
acaca
Congrats man! Glad to hear it all came together and your able to ride it. It took me 700 days to get my first ride on my project (bought with a siezed engine) so I know what that first ride feels like!
Hey, looks fantastic. Can't wait to see it all painted up and ready to go, but it still looks great as it is.
Glad you finally got it on the road. You sure your clutch isn't just adjusted a little too tight? Everything flows together really nice. The duct tape on the engine is a nice touch too. Just paint it ducati red and no one will notice.
Someday when you get bored you should angle that exhaust up a bit. Partly because I want to angle mine up and it'd be easier to see how it looks if you do it first. :thumb:
You guys do make me really want the new front end, but I just don't know. I need to wait until I find another bike and see how much I still feel up to messing with the GS.
Gonna have to agree, about angling the exhaust.
Other than that, that's a damn nice GS. I'm super jealous of your skills, haha. Can't wait to see it all painted up.
just for the record, we don't mean to say the exhaust looks bad. It actually blends in well with the swingarm and wheel, I just think it would even better angled up.
acacad
Quote from: tt_four on May 27, 2010, 04:45:28 AM
just for the record, we don't mean to say the exhaust looks bad. It actually blends in well with the swingarm and wheel, I just think it would even better angled up.
I agree, I like the old exhaust. But it's time to ride.
Indeed Seamax - i just got back from a 15 mile "test" ride. The bike handles like a dream. Bumps are no issue and the suspension is perfect for my weight. The R6 shock is fantastic as well.
What is really hard to take is the aggressive riding stance. My palms are literally pounding/aching. I am hoping that I just need to get used to it like I did with the GS clip-ons last year. If not, I will be buying raised clip-ons.
Other than that, she starts better, warms up quicker, and back fires more :2guns:. I think the carb cleaning and 150 mains was a great addition. I can tell the difference over the 140's
At McDonalds today one of the staff (cute younger girl actually) asked what I ride. I pointed to it and she said "what is that?!", lol. I started to explain and she glossed over like a deer in the headlights. :dunno_black:
You'll get used to the bars. My hands were sore after the first day I rode mine. I didn't actually notice until I tried to tie my shoes the next morning and just couldn't squeeze my shoe laces. After that you just get used to it. You'll get used to squeezing with your knees and trying to hold yourself up with your core.
This is so awesome! I am glad another project can be moved over into the done column. Congrats for sticking with it. Hopefully I won't be far behind you.
The LSL riser kit for GSXR's is pretty sweet man. But it's priced out of the stratosphere. Do crunches every morning and get that core into shape or start saving $$$
Congrats!!
I can't tell from your post about adjusting the clutch whether you fixed the slipping issue or not, but I'd have to agree with tt_four about the lever/cable adjustment. That's the first thing I'd check.
Either way, great job! It'll be nice to see it painted :thumb:
Quote from: badguy on May 27, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
Congrats!!
I can't tell from your post about adjusting the clutch whether you fixed the slipping issue or not,
I wasn't sure about that either.
You're skills are good enough that if you want to go to other bars, you should just but some risers and drill your current top triple, and brace the back of it. Some people also flip their clipons over so they angle up instead of down, which I've heard does good things.
So how is the breaking net to the stock one? Lol. :D
I got the clutch figured out. I have these moments where my brain forgets common knowledge. I turn the adjuster the wrong way. I fixed it at lunch yesterday and have been riding since.
After work I decided to try some twisties near my house and definitely exceeded the speed limit. She is fantastic in the corners, even better that the usual GS goodness in stock form.
The brakes? That is a whole nother beast. I had to get on them the first day and grabbed like I used to for the single stock rotor. I almost did a stoppie without being prepared. They are almost seated and rotors are almost completely scuffed in. The whole setup seems to be working very nicely. I am more and more pleased every day.
Very cool. I am looking forward to getting the tire changed on that wheel. I am going to attempt to install the 110 and see if it spreads too far or if it provides a narrow footprint like the gs front. I realize it's a wider rim so probably a bit more spread on the tread.
O.C.D - I have a couple of questions?
How are you adjusting to the bars?
What length are your front brake lines? I am looking to get the "build your own" style from ebay and wondering what the lengths and ends look like.
Thanks,
CB
Chris, the bars are hard to get used to. But I only have ridden it 4 times. I think it will get better.
I am out of town for work til Saturday. When I get back I will measure for you. I thought about stainless lines but this bike has more than enough stopping power.
The 120 I have up front feels great! Either I don't remember what it used to feel like or I forgot on purpose. I love the feel with the extra weight up front.
Thanks Jon. For now, I may just get some ebay "take-offs" to get it up and running again then decide if I really want anything different.
munytb
I didn't take the time to look up monster balls, but I'm assuming your junk is getting crushed with the new setup. That's due to the clip ons, not the monster seat. I get the same thing on my bike now that I switched to the low clipons on my bike, and I can fully, fully appreciate how comfortable I was with the old bars. You just have to make sure you get everything properly situated before you start moving and you'll be set.
Amazing work! Thanks for sharing! :bowdown:
Any updates on the paint job?
Quote from: bombjack on July 17, 2010, 07:48:43 AM
Amazing work! Thanks for sharing! :bowdown:
Any updates on the paint job?
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wheres the "like" button?
I think I speak for everyone who followed this incredible build...
LET'S SEE SOME NEW PICS!
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er license plate showing page 15? :technical:
cwcwe
Just wanted to say that I just read through this whole log and it was awesome seeing all of your hard work fly by. Terribly impressed. Can't wait to see it when it's all painted up as well.
If you were in CT I would buy that off you in a heart beat.
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Quote from: Yev on January 12, 2011, 08:57:35 AM
If you were in CT I would buy that off you in a heart beat.
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Talk to me, lol.
How much are you asking for her if unpainted and if you decide to part out I would be interested in the GSXR FE.
I would love to see your bike with a gsxr fe!
Quote from: O.C.D. on January 12, 2011, 09:39:28 AM
Quote from: Yev on January 12, 2011, 08:57:35 AM
If you were in CT I would buy that off you in a heart beat.
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Talk to me, lol.
Where are you located?
And what $$$ range you looking?
Read all of this start to finish and I must say excelent work sir and it
looks awsome. Can't wait to see it done.
Project thread please? :D
For sale $1500 firm in Colorado Springs If she doesn't sell I will part out. But I don't want to part it out as the bike is awesome and handles great!!!
pm me if interested.
Jon
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/mcy/3139130793.html
#5067
Reason for selling???
That bike --- you have to like the style. It is more of a bike you ride to try to impress people. It is not a commuter and looks pretty uncomfortable for any ride longer than to the store and back. It is very different. Also it is a "project bike". It is a lot of different things put together as a project. and what was the purpose of it? A project... so a new owner would really have to be a mechanic. I doubt anyone could afford repairs at a shop because they would charge so much just to figure out what was there. There is no service manual for it. No instructions.
It is going to be a very hard sell.
I think in listing all of the things you spent money on - you should have included $14 to put the right side timing cover emblem back on. That scraped up cover with the open hole is an immediate turn off. It yells "I have been dropped and bandaged back together".
Primer gray makes it look unfinished. Stressing "no warranty implied..." seems like "I put this thing together and good luck when you get it home". Any buyer would feel uncomfortable buying a home made bike with no warranty and it implies no after sale help. That's not the same as buying a stock bike in "as is" condition - for there you know what you're getting and can get parts, read a service manual, etc.
My neighbor bought a bike for a good price (CBR600) that had been raced and modded a little. returned to street status. That owner stands behind the bike. He's gone back a couple times with questions.
...and why do so many people sell a bike and only show pictures of one side? Makes you wonder about the other side.
Why does your posting say $1700 firm and the CL listing is $1500?
So I can buy a bike with no working speedometer, needs painting and who knows what else for $1500. OR a working GS500 for $1500-$2000 ready to go or even a GSXR for $2000-$3000. Hmmmm. An unfinished bike is even harder to sell. So why not finished? Don't like it? Not comfortable to ride? Project didn't work out as planned?
Wow, why did you even bother to post that bull Sh!t?! Coming on my thread and bashing my build, my taste, my reason for selling and the way I sell it!!! Go find somewhere else to inflate your ego.
I am not going to defend anything as I do not need to. I just wanted to waste my time acknowledging your desire to be an a$$hat.
Now leave and go buy a factory bike that does more than "go to the store!"
Changed price to match - thanks for keeping me in line. :bowdown:
I think it's great except for the awful gray paint. If it was red and matched, it would be hot. That is a hell of a list of parts but it doesn't look that different to me. I mean obviously it is and much much respect for putting the work into it and accomplishing what you did.
Good luck to you and hope someone picks it up who will appreciate it as you have.
Ok I'd still like to see you finish it, I admit it.
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nevermind
nevermind
SOLD!!!
Took less than 24 hours to
Well done! O0