I am going to attempt to put an sv650 tail on my bike to go along with my sv rear rim. I have the rear seat, all the plastics, and the entire rear support structure ( cant remember what its called ) I plan to make a custom sized-shaped front seat to get it to look-fit right. if it dont work out, or looks retarded, then I will scrap the project and give my friend his parts back.
Take pictures!
I had to fix up a seat when I did my tail swap. It was either an R6 or an R1 seat, can't remember, but I had to uncover the front, and cut it up a little so it fit the tank right, but it wasn't too hard.
What year are you using? I got an 07 GS500F and now I'm going to call it a GS500R LOL I just did a tail swap but i didn't have the subframe off the donor bike i had to fab my own. I used an 07 GSXR 600 tail and seats on mine the front seat went on pretty close so i didn't modify it. I desgined my own subframe for it. I like the look of the SV650 tai llight the two paralell vertical tail lights. Post some pics. Make sure you have your welds tig welded they are better and stronger welds. check out mine.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50363.0
servus,
here a pic from sv650 tail on a gs with the original, modified seat:
(http://gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/11027/umbau7.jpg)
sounds like a cool project.. i love the look of the sv650 rear end.. can't wait to see what it looks like on the gs.
Which tail are you using? I pictured the newer one in my head when you said it, but the older one in the picture looks very good too.
its gonna be off an 01, still haven't actually went and got the stuff yet, but hopefully will tomoro, I plan on using the stock sv subframe, but that pic jim posted looks to be using a stock subframe, I just have some measuring to do, will post pics as I go!
dunno about the 01, but the 03-09 will work well with the GSXR 1000 seats. I just have to get mine together now.
Quote from: Kevin81ski on October 22, 2009, 06:41:39 AM
What year are you using? I got an 07 GS500F and now I'm going to call it a GS500R LOL I just did a tail swap but i didn't have the subframe off the donor bike i had to fab my own. I used an 07 GSXR 600 tail and seats on mine the front seat went on pretty close so i didn't modify it. I desgined my own subframe for it. I like the look of the SV650 tai llight the two paralell vertical tail lights. Post some pics. Make sure you have your welds tig welded they are better and stronger welds. check out mine.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50363.0
Those are all TIG welds? they look mig to me. maybe its just the small picture. :dunno_white:
I got a little bit accomplished this weekend, should be mostly finished tomoro here are a few progress and mockup pics
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jeremy_nash/gs500/sv%20tail%20swap/
Very nice! Is that a mockup or are you going to move the gs support bars in or the SV supports out?
that was a mockup. they wont be perfectly inline, but will be very very close.
on a side note, if anyone has any of the metal sleeves that go in the rubber isolators between the upper 2 triples, I need another set. I am using them to reinforce where the bolts will go through the stock frame.
still no front seat pan, will get to that as soon as I get a hold of a heat gun. didn't stop me from putting about 20 miles on it today though!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jeremy_nash/Mobile%20Uploads/103009_174300.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jeremy_nash/Mobile%20Uploads/103009_174400.jpg)
good work! I like it! :thumb:
thank you, it needs a little finish welding to pretty it up, but that will wait for its winter teardown, when I plan to maybe powdercoat the frame and paint the plastics
cstilt may recognize that sign, but then again, maybe not as it isn't raining!!
seat pan roughed in, need to get ahold of heat gun to mold to right shape. it's almost finished!!
Quote from: gregvhen on October 22, 2009, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin81ski on October 22, 2009, 06:41:39 AM
What year are you using? I got an 07 GS500F and now I'm going to call it a GS500R LOL I just did a tail swap but i didn't have the subframe off the donor bike i had to fab my own. I used an 07 GSXR 600 tail and seats on mine the front seat went on pretty close so i didn't modify it. I desgined my own subframe for it. I like the look of the SV650 tai llight the two paralell vertical tail lights. Post some pics. Make sure you have your welds tig welded they are better and stronger welds. check out mine.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50363.0
Those are all TIG welds? they look mig to me. maybe its just the small picture. :dunno_white:
I don't know which pics you looked at, I fabbed it up with a mig just to get it held in place then I took it to my friends house and let him doing all the tigging and I ground all the mig welds off and replaced them with tig welds after he went over it. I'll be posting more pics in the light this week and you'll be able to see the tig welds better.
seat pan is fitting perfect, I tried an sv seat too, it fits perfect, but doesnt look as good as my modified gs seat. now if I get around to covering it back up, It'll be semi-finished :thumb:
Can't wait to see how it turns out with the modified gs seat. It looks bloody good as is.
What colour are you gonna paint it?
I'm thinking flat black, but dont wanna pull away from the lines, with there being no contrast. my other thought is powder-coat the frame black, and stay with the green thats on the tank now. but I also like the factory blue on the tail. to be honest, I dont really have a clue what color yet. if I go with blue, I will need to sell my green leds, and buy some blue ones, but thats not really a big deal either
just dont do a black gold and blue theme. i called it.
servus,
i think, the rear end is too long!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jeremy_nash/gs500/sv%20tail%20swap/DSC00997.jpg)
shorter is looking better. my opinion.
it is about an inch closer to tank than in that mockup pic. it is actually the exact same length from gas tank to tail as an sv, as a stock sv seat fits it perfectly
I have the same probem. Tank to tail is the same as the SV650 (03-09), but f%&ked if it doesn't look way longer.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/matarael/022.jpg?t=1257388485)
I'v got a shot on my phone of my 04 tail, and it looks really long like that too, it must be the angle. no passengers for you? I ride passengers frequently, thats the reason I went with the sv subframe
very purty jeremy
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. Nah, no passangers for me, but I have the provision to mount up the passanger seat if I need to (no pegs though).
is it possible to do this swap without changing the subframe?
If someone is planning on doing the second gen tail swap they all look the same but they're not.
03 was the only year that used a steel subframe. The 04+ is aluminum. Figured it might help anyone who was hoping to weld an entire 2nd gen SV subframe onto a GS500. You'd have to get it all from the same bike because some mounting points for things like the seat are different as well.
If you already knew this, than sorry for stating the obvious. :D
you would have to weld up new mounts for the seat and such. I actually bolted the subframe onto my bike. you could get away without any welding at all.
stock 1st gen subframe is steel. I slightly bent my upper supports in so that it matched up properly
have about 200 miles on the swap, half of that without any seat foam, and I must say I love it!