Been about 3 weeks now riding on my Daytona 675. While this has all the power you could ever want.. I really really really miss my GS. I love how with the GS i am in control all the time. This new bike i got.. not so much in control.. to many things to think about. My mind is already made up. Within a year or two i am going to buy another GS500F. Its just that damn good of a bike.
I rewatched this video today and just almost had tears on how well that GS ran for me on track day. For those of you who never done track.. Take the GS.. you will love it.
http://www.vholdr.com/video/gs500f-track-day
You Pwned the corners, everybody you passed was saying to themselfz "yeah, that was a GSX-R1000..blue and white, yup that's what it was a Gixxer!" :bowdown:
ill trade you my 05 for your daytona
That's it. I'm going to be on that track next season. :icon_twisted:
What kinds of things do you think distract you on the new bike? too much work trying to control the power in turns, or what do you think?
^^^
was thinking the same thing ;)
so what gives you most trouble??
Within a year or two?
Geeze, by then whatever issues you Think you have you will have resolved.
Michael
Trouble... mainly throttle control and ensuring i dont slide during turns due to poor throttle control. Slowing myself down..this baby can go 40-90 with just a twist on any gear. i am just being paranoid as its my first SS bike. So probably more mental than anything that i am having trouble with. It goes away with time.
My GS was more forgiving.. thank god. :kiss3:
Yeah. Throttle control not like this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4Zxsf5ic0
I don't know if I'd be laughing if that happened to my bike, though.
Michael
I've got a super sports but I always enjoy jumping back on the GS. Its so light, nimble and raw. It flexes, squirms and exilerates
Quote from: galahs on November 25, 2009, 05:24:41 AM
I've got a super sports but I always enjoy jumping back on the GS. Its so light, nimble and raw. It flexes, squirms and exilerates
Sounds more like a woman.
You should try going for rides and just always stay one gear higher than you think you should be in. My last bike was a triumph, thought it was only 600cc and an inline4, but I definitely don't ever remember thinking "hmm... I wish I was on a GS500" when I was mid corner. I think you'll definitely get used to it. It takes a little bit for that speed rush to wear off.
I'm getting sentimental and teary eyed thinking about my old bike now though.... I swore I'd never own a Triumph again, but I so totally would.
Certain bikes just feel "right." And that bike varies from person to person. While you may get used to your current bike there is always one bike you will miss. For me it is 1996 CBR 600 F3. No bike I have owned since has felt that good to me. Now I'm sure there is someone out there that hates the way that bike feels. Like I said, we are all different. For Bluehaze that bike might always be his GS500. I still really like riding GS500's. In fact, I prefer them to the SV650 I currently use as my main bike. Last month I was out with PachmanP and rode his GS while he rode my SV. While there is a power deficit, the handling on a light GS is more fun to me on the backroads. Now if Danny would change his clutch adjustment to my preference he might get a lot more SV seat time.... ;)
-Jessie
Hey galahs,
you got a gixr1000 right ?. How did you find the transition mate. Just curious as im looking at a second bike. Does the switchable power modes help with getting a feel for the bike. At present im prolly leaning toward a 750 but would appreciate your input.
Im sure there are others wondering which way to go.
Mate I got a k8 gixxer 1000
I test rode the 600, 750 and 1000
The 600 fast fast. Way fast compared to the GS500f
The 750 was way fast too but felt torquier down low and probably what I'd go for if I wanted a track bike
and the 1000 was whoo!
After test riding the 1000 I was a little scared. I don't need a bike this quick. It can do 160km/h in first. WTF!
So I bought it :icon_twisted: and you know the best thing about the modern EFI gixxers. They have such smooth throttle progression on them, you can put around all day if you want and the bike doesn't care. Or you can ring its neck and it doesn't care.
If you have a high powered car they are usually dogs down low, real lumpy and gruff, but these modern super sports bikes are smooth from idle to redline.
So the transition was easy. I just started off being very gentle with my throttle control until my confidence increased.
I would not recommend a 1thou as someone's first bike. But would have no hesitation recommending it as someones second bike if they have experience and common-sense on their side.
Ryan..going fast on a small bike (GS500) is always more fun than going fast on a fast bike, give me a fun bike any day, bigger is not always better...unless you are compensating for something? :whisper:
You are in your "getting back on the horse" phase after your crash that totaled the 500, you will rock the Daytona with time :cheers:
Quote from: galahs on November 25, 2009, 06:10:17 PM
After test riding the 1000 I was a little scared. I don't need a bike this quick. It can do 160km/h in first. WTF!
I heard the zx10r when it first came out would do something like 115mph in first.
I know the general.... 'all supersports are way above normal people's riding level' which you hear any time you talk about getting a bigger bike, but I'm still trying to figure out what I want for a next bike. After my last bike being a 600 I definitely would like to get something bigger than that. I'll be super satisfied if I can find a gsxr750 I like, but if I'm having a hard time finding one, I'll have to decide if I want more power than I need with a 1000cc, or less than I want with a 600. How's that 1000 working for you on the street? If I still rode as hard as I used to I'd be perfectly fine with a 600cc, because there's plenty of power at 12k rpm, but I'm looking to take it easy this time, and really want something with some pull closer to 6krpm, which the thousand would be great for, but I feel like any time I did feel like moving fast the front wheel would be all over the place. They need to make more bikes with massive middle range and less top end. My triumph was 'tuned for midrange', but it was still an inline 4, so you were still over 10k any time you wanted to move anywhere.
Quote from: tt_four on November 27, 2009, 08:53:21 AMThey need to make more bikes with massive middle range and less top end. My triumph was 'tuned for midrange', but it was still an inline 4, so you were still over 10k any time you wanted to move anywhere.
You just described a Suzuki GSX650F, tuned for bottom and mid, 55 Mpg, low 12's in the quarter and a top speed of 139 Mph in 6th and an upright rider with enough weight for a good ride..I love mine and I also am keeping the GS500F too.
(http://home.comcast.net/~stykers/gsx05.jpg)
The SV1K is a pretty nice low and mid range bike. Yea it will go 40-90 in any gear just twist, but well it redlines at 11K and that makes for a bike that in all effects feels like a bigger GS ... literally. However I feel it vibrates and sends weird pulses through the frame/body at all the wrong speed's and rpm's. Yea the 650 I havd back in 05/06 was that same way too. 3-5K vibrations sorta get annoying. The 1K is in fact less than that 650 was.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on November 27, 2009, 11:06:16 AM
You just described a Suzuki GSX650F, tuned for bottom and mid, 55 Mpg, low 12's in the quarter and a top speed of 139 Mph in 6th and an upright rider with enough weight for a good ride..I love mine and I also am keeping the GS500F too.
Yeah, but they're still 70lbs heavier than a gsxr1000, and just because the way the market in this country is, anything aside from supersports gets built up as a budget commuter. I want something as light, strong, and well put together as a supersport, I just want it to not be covered in plastic and have more of a focus on midrange. I just need to move to Europe to get my hands on some of the naked bikes we can't get here. I'm gonna end up finding a gsxr, pulling the plastic off, and putting riser bars on it, and having to get a bike that's stronger than I need just so I have the leftover midrange to pull me around without revving the engine like crazy.
Quote from: tt_four on November 27, 2009, 12:30:23 PMYeah, but they're still 70lbs heavier than a gsxr1000
True...but weight/mass is required for a good ride on the road, a 1500 Lb Cadillac would ride like compost. Are you going to race it or ride it in the real world?
Quote from: tt_four on November 27, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Yeah, but they're still 70lbs heavier than a gsxr1000, and just because the way the market in this country is, anything aside from supersports gets built up as a budget commuter. I want something as light, strong, and well put together as a supersport, I just want it to not be covered in plastic and have more of a focus on midrange. I just need to move to Europe to get my hands on some of the naked bikes we can't get here. I'm gonna end up finding a gsxr, pulling the plastic off, and putting riser bars on it, and having to get a bike that's stronger than I need just so I have the leftover midrange to pull me around without revving the engine like crazy.
+1
I'd love to get my hands on a GSR600 http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsr600_b-king%2006.htm
-Jessie
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on November 27, 2009, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: tt_four on November 27, 2009, 12:30:23 PMYeah, but they're still 70lbs heavier than a gsxr1000
True...but weight/mass is required for a good ride on the road, a 1500 Lb Cadillac would ride like compost. Are you going to race it or ride it in the real world?
This is true, but a light bike with a good suspension is still going to be better than a heavier bike with a cheap suspension. I plan to do a little bit of everything with it, but I don't imagine I'll spend much time at all on the highway where a plush heavier bike is comfortable. Weight wouldn't be as much of a concern for me if I wasn't only 145lbs. If I weighed 180+ and was a couple inches taller I don't think I'd ever give it a second thought and just pick up a Z1000, which I think is just about a perfect street bike. They make the Z750 as well, which I'd love to get if kawasaki treated 750s the way suzuki does, but they don't. The z750 is just a z1000 with a smaller bore and cheaper parts. In what kind of world do you sell a 750 copy of a 1000 bike where the 750 weights more?! I know from bike shootouts that it's supposed to be a great bike, but still, if they would've made it faster than the er6n and lighter than the z1000 they'd actually have something, instead of a concept that's just going to drop off the face of the earth and be forgotten.
Yamaha needs to make a light 8-900cc version of their mt-01 to satisfy my love for buells and hatred for anything not as reliable as a japanese bike....
(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Custom%20Bikes/AM%20Racing%20Yamaha%20MT-01%20Turbo.jpg)
or Suzuki should make a naked simple version of their gsxr750 just to be the meanest street bike you could buy....
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr292/Gitzy84/Bandits/Oil%20Cooled/Water%20Cooled/11104.jpg)
and I will be happy
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on November 27, 2009, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: tt_four on November 27, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Yeah, but they're still 70lbs heavier than a gsxr1000, and just because the way the market in this country is, anything aside from supersports gets built up as a budget commuter. I want something as light, strong, and well put together as a supersport, I just want it to not be covered in plastic and have more of a focus on midrange. I just need to move to Europe to get my hands on some of the naked bikes we can't get here. I'm gonna end up finding a gsxr, pulling the plastic off, and putting riser bars on it, and having to get a bike that's stronger than I need just so I have the leftover midrange to pull me around without revving the engine like crazy.
+1
I'd love to get my hands on a GSR600 http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsr600_b-king%2006.htm
-Jessie
Nice +1
Top speed... 216kph. Based on a GSXR6. Fuel economy is up to OhMyGoodness. Small tank (compared to our GS). Twin front brakes. EFI. Yadda yadda GoodStuffYadda
It's biggest downfall... it ain't a GS500. Oddly, down here I can get a Honda CBF900 (Hornet) for less $$$ than the GSR600. But the 600 has the Magic :icon_mrgreen:
Michael
All good points, you clearly know what you want :cheers:
At my age I'm just happy to be able to get out there and twist the grip!
I do really like those honda 919(cbf900)s, but I'm looking for used, and for some reason I don't think I've ever seen one used for less than $4k. I like the FZ1N as well, but you don't really see those in the U.S.
Once I have a new bike I know I won't really care what it is, but I've got all winter to try and figure out what I want to pick up when spring comes around, so I just sit here scrutinizing details on the internet all day.
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on November 27, 2009, 02:17:50 PM
I'd love to get my hands on a GSR600 http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsr600_b-king%2006.htm
-Jessie
They are nice :D but it feels completely different to the GS500.
(http://www.drewbytes.com.au/images/gsr600/new2_640.jpg)
Kick ass track day video. Way to lay it over in the curves! That was awesome!
Quote from: drewbytes on November 28, 2009, 12:55:23 PM
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on November 27, 2009, 02:17:50 PM
I'd love to get my hands on a GSR600 http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsr600_b-king%2006.htm
-Jessie
They are nice :D but it feels completely different to the GS500.
(http://www.drewbytes.com.au/images/gsr600/new2_640.jpg)
Exposed aggregate, paling fence, the style of the buildings, the dry-weather resistant plants.... I said to myself... this has to be in Australia. Look left... Canberra... Australia.
Besides the obvious instant throttle response and more oomph, is it different in other ways?
Michael
Quote from: mister on November 28, 2009, 03:08:11 PM
Besides the obvious instant throttle response and more oomph, is it different in other ways?
Michael
Michael,
It just feels and handles completely different to the GS500 when riding. Seeing as the GS500 was my first bike and I've done 13,500 kms on it - and it's the only bike I've ridden it was a bit strange to hop on to another bike. It may just be that and I need more time to get used to it.
It doesn't have as much steering lock as the GS500 and slow riding u-turns etc I've been practicing as it initially felt harder to ride at slow speed. I'm not a good enough rider or knowledgeable about how these things work to explain properly, but the GS500 also feels to me like it corners easier. Again, probably due to me not having enough experience on ithe GSR600 yet.
Riding position feels very similar to the GS500 but you seem to be further forward.
Oh, but the power... :icon_twisted: and I've already got radiator cover, Banditmania exhaust and PUIG screen on it.
Just because I've got some time to spare, our selection of 600-750 upgrades, naked because that's what I like. Not necessarily all available in the US.......
Triumph Street Triple
(http://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/produit/nouveautes2008/Echappement_Zard_Triumph_Street_Triple_st2pz.jpg)
(http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/ekmps/shops/squaredealsmot/resources/Image/StreetTriple-675.jpg)
Honda Hornet
(http://www.redline.co.za/pics/Honda%20CB600F%20Hornet%2060.jpg)
Kawasaki z750
(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Various/EICMA_2006/KawasakiZ750_EICMA_2006-003.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Kawasaki_z750.JPG/500px-Kawasaki_z750.JPG)
Yamaha FZ6
(http://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/comparo_600_07/Yamaha_FZ6_stpz.jpg)
Ducati Monster
(http://blog.motorandagio.it/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/ducati-monster-696-rear.jpg)
(http://motoprofi.com/bikephoto/4393/ducati_monster_600_2001_2.jpg)
Suzuki sv650
(http://www.motorcycledaily.com/sv1.jpg)
(http://obchod.motografix.cz/catalog/images/2000_SV650_black_side_450.jpg)
(http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/attachments/general-bike-related/15589d1245737196-touring-the-sv650-standard-vs-sv650s-other-sport-bike-p5110242.jpg)
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL16/628080/18798375/349746511.jpg)
Suzuki Gladius
(http://www.her-motorcycle.com/images/2009-suzuki-gladius-sfv650-21135623.jpg)
Kawasaki er6n
(http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200903/kawasaki-er6-rr-by-h_460x0w.jpg)
(http://www.motorrad-testbericht.at/magazin/kawasaki/naked/er6n/kawasaki_er6n_2009_20.jpg)
Suzuki Bandit
(http://motoride.sk/motodb/pic/Suzuki-Bandit600N-04.jpg)
Triumph Speed Four
(http://motoprofi.com/imgs/a/a/k/w/z/triumph_speed_four_2006_1_lgw.jpg)
(http://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Shoot-Out/Static_Triumph.jpg)
.....and if you can afford it, my all time favorite, Brutale 750
(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20%20A/MV%20Agusta%20F4%20Brutale%20Gladio%20%201.jpg)
(http://www.motoracingvalentino.com/Foto/Special/MV%20Brutale%20750/MV%20Brutale%20750_2.jpg)
You guys may think of more, but those are the main ones....
As far as how they feel different, I don't really know how to describe it either. The bikes are bigger, stiffer, and handling feels completely different when you've got that much torque behind the wheel pushing your bike. You definitely get used to it though. You have to be a little more forceful in turns, but the bikes usually feel completely solid when you're doing it.
Quote from: tt_four on November 27, 2009, 08:53:21 AM
How's that 1000 working for you on the street?
Really Good
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on November 25, 2009, 06:52:14 PM
Ryan..going fast on a small bike (GS500) is always more fun than going fast on a fast bike, give me a fun bike any day, bigger is not always better...unless you are compensating for something? :whisper:
You are in your "getting back on the horse" phase after your crash that totaled the 500, you will rock the Daytona with time :cheers:
I don't agree with that statement at all.
They are both fun, for different reasons.
What you think is fast on a GS500 doesn't even raise an eyebrow to a supersports.
Quote from: galahs on November 29, 2009, 06:06:32 PM
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on November 25, 2009, 06:52:14 PM
Ryan..going fast on a small bike (GS500) is always more fun than going fast on a fast bike, give me a fun bike any day, bigger is not always better...unless you are compensating for something? :whisper:
You are in your "getting back on the horse" phase after your crash that totaled the 500, you will rock the Daytona with time :cheers:
I don't agree with that statement at all.
They are both fun, for different reasons.
What you think is fast on a GS500 doesn't even raise an eyebrow to a supersports.
I thought the saying was "it's more fun to go fast on a slow bike than slow on a fast bike". no where in there does it mention going fast on a fast bike, which is clearly the most fun option.
lol, that saying makes more sense and I agree :thumb: