Is the stock exhaust one continues piece all the way up to the engine? I don't see any clamps etc... Looks like the exhuast cannister is welded on, true?
Thanks!
yep. if you plan to modify.. you cut it.
Quote from: Bluehaze on December 23, 2009, 08:05:44 PM
yep. if you plan to modify.. you cut it.
or replace the whole thing, the V&H and Jardine full systems are less expensive and easier to install than most slip ons.
you can get a full system for less then a slip on? i wanna know where your shopping
Ok, Kinda wierd it's all one piece. It's in good shape but I can see some of the back paint coming off already. I may just pull it and repaint with 1200 degree Hi temp paint.
Thanks to all for the answer to my question.
A lot of people on the forum have had good luck with gas grill paint.
-Jessie
Quote from: joshr08 on December 24, 2009, 05:09:02 AM
you can get a full system for less then a slip on? i wanna know where your shopping
search for Vance and Hines or Jardine full systems. on any site the V&H is $280-300, I got mine for $280 from bikebandit.com. The jardine can be had for approximately $320 from starcycle.com. Most slipons are atleast $250 for a cheap one. yoshimura slipons are $350 and require cutting. all slip ons require cutting on the gs. the full systems are very easy to install, the stock system is only held on with 5 bolts, took me 1 hour or so to remove my stock system and install the V&H. The jardine is the same install as the V&H.
FYI slip ons add little-to-no power (on the gs), Full systems add very noticeable power. both require rejets.
personaly i wouldnt waste the money on a new full system or a slip on for the gs.
Quote from: black and silver twin on December 25, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
the full systems are very easy to install, the stock system is only held on with 5 bolts, took me 1 hour or so to remove my stock system and install the V&H. The jardine is the same install as the V&H.
on any site the V&H is $280-300, I got mine for $280 from bikebandit.com. The jardine can be had for approximately $320 from starcycle.com. Most slipons are atleast $250 for a cheap one. yoshimura slipons are $350 and require cutting
ahahah :cookoo: :laugh:
Quote from: gregvhen on January 01, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: black and silver twin on December 25, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
the full systems are very easy to install, the stock system is only held on with 5 bolts, took me 1 hour or so to remove my stock system and install the V&H. The jardine is the same install as the V&H.
on any site the V&H is $280-300, I got mine for $280 from bikebandit.com. The jardine can be had for approximately $320 from starcycle.com. Most slipons are atleast $250 for a cheap one. yoshimura slipons are $350 and require cutting
ahahah :cookoo: :laugh:
Do you not believe me? The stock exhaust is held on with 5 bolts. its a very easy install. I have to remove the exhaust, headers and all, to change my oil (V&H headers go directly in front of oil filter housing, which is WEAK). I usually take 45-55 min to do an oil change, including removing and installing the exhaust. Now I have gotten faster due to experience but the first time took approximately 1 hour, not including the oil change. Why do you think it would take a long time to unbolt 5 bolts? they are easy to get to, i dont even have to remove my fairing.
And if you dont believe me on price, check this out:
http://www.bikebandit.com/1997-suzuki-gs500-full-systems/c/a644017?mg=3614&t=1
The full systems listed above were slightly less expensive when I bought mine about 1 year ago, but they are still cheaper than most good slip ons.
do you change exhaust gaskets everytime you do an oil change?
Quote from: black and silver twin on January 01, 2010, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: gregvhen on January 01, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: black and silver twin on December 25, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
the full systems are very easy to install, the stock system is only held on with 5 bolts, took me 1 hour or so to remove my stock system and install the V&H. The jardine is the same install as the V&H.
on any site the V&H is $280-300, I got mine for $280 from bikebandit.com. The jardine can be had for approximately $320 from starcycle.com. Most slipons are atleast $250 for a cheap one. yoshimura slipons are $350 and require cutting
ahahah :cookoo: :laugh:
Do you not believe me? The stock exhaust is held on with 5 bolts. its a very easy install. I have to remove the exhaust, headers and all, to change my oil (V&H headers go directly in front of oil filter housing, which is WEAK). I usually take 45-55 min to do an oil change, including removing and installing the exhaust. Now I have gotten faster due to experience but the first time took approximately 1 hour, not including the oil change. Why do you think it would take a long time to unbolt 5 bolts? they are easy to get to, i dont even have to remove my fairing.
And if you dont believe me on price, check this out:
http://www.bikebandit.com/1997-suzuki-gs500-full-systems/c/a644017?mg=3614&t=1
The full systems listed above were slightly less expensive when I bought mine about 1 year ago, but they are still cheaper than most good slip ons.
No im laughing cause you full systems are less expensive then said all these prices - slip on -250- and all the other prices you said were above 250 and the other part im laughin is not cause i think it would take
longer to remove 5 bolts, its cause it take me like 15 minuetes to remove the exhaust and change oil, and an extra 5 min. when i sometimes remove the oil pan to clean it which i dont do every time but when i do no where near 1 hour) i thought you were joking about the 1 hour part, my bad man
Quote from: gregvhen on January 02, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: black and silver twin on January 01, 2010, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: gregvhen on January 01, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: black and silver twin on December 25, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
the full systems are very easy to install, the stock system is only held on with 5 bolts, took me 1 hour or so to remove my stock system and install the V&H. The jardine is the same install as the V&H.
on any site the V&H is $280-300, I got mine for $280 from bikebandit.com. The jardine can be had for approximately $320 from starcycle.com. Most slipons are atleast $250 for a cheap one. yoshimura slipons are $350 and require cutting
ahahah :cookoo: :laugh:
Do you not believe me? The stock exhaust is held on with 5 bolts. its a very easy install. I have to remove the exhaust, headers and all, to change my oil (V&H headers go directly in front of oil filter housing, which is WEAK). I usually take 45-55 min to do an oil change, including removing and installing the exhaust. Now I have gotten faster due to experience but the first time took approximately 1 hour, not including the oil change. Why do you think it would take a long time to unbolt 5 bolts? they are easy to get to, i dont even have to remove my fairing.
And if you dont believe me on price, check this out:
http://www.bikebandit.com/1997-suzuki-gs500-full-systems/c/a644017?mg=3614&t=1
The full systems listed above were slightly less expensive when I bought mine about 1 year ago, but they are still cheaper than most good slip ons.
No im laughing cause you full systems are less expensive then said all these prices - slip on -250- and all the other prices you said were above 250 and the other part im laughin is not cause i think it would take longer to remove 5 bolts, its cause it take me like 15 minuetes to remove the exhaust and change oil, and an extra 5 min. when i sometimes remove the oil pan to clean it which i dont do every time but when i do no where near 1 hour) i thought you were joking about the 1 hour part, my bad man
for sure you can get a slip on for like 250 or less but most name brands (Yoshimura, twobros, akropovic, ect.) are vastly more expensive and all slip ons require cutting (on the gs anyway).
as for the exhaust removal, yeah I thought you were sayin I was sooo fast, but you were in-fact sayin I was sooo slow! Ha! :D
I hope I can get it down like you (seriously) I freakin hate havin to remove the thing just to change the oil, with out removing the exhaust it would only take like 15min to change oil. I think it takes me a grip to remove the exhaust because I dont remove the fairing :oops:
We cool :cheers:
Quote from: joshr08 on January 02, 2010, 09:19:04 AM
do you change exhaust gaskets everytime you do an oil change?
anyone goin to answer this one?
Not sure about the if it will work on the V & H but on the Yoshimura full exhaust you can unbolt the exhaust from the frame mount near the can and push down lightly. The exhaust pipes flex just enough to get the oil filter out.
-Jessie
Quote from: joshr08 on January 03, 2010, 06:25:22 AM
Quote from: joshr08 on January 02, 2010, 09:19:04 AM
do you change exhaust gaskets everytime you do an oil change?
anyone goin to answer this one?
Why does that really matter? I've probably removed and switched around headers 5-10 times on my GS since I've had 3 different exhausts on there and my current setup requires removal for a lot of maintenance. I've only replaced the exhaust gaskets once and it didn't make a difference as far as I can tell. I think they are totally reusable.
i dont even have gaskets cause i guess the P.O. didnt realize that hes retarded and shouldnt touch motorcycles. oh well stupid people with bikes present cheap opportunities for me :D
I never changed the gaskets in the 4 times ive removed my exhaust, although I did buy new ones with the V&H system. I couldnt figure out how to get the stock ones out without damaging them, they looked fine any way and they dont leak sooo... :dunno_black: but I do have a set for if they do ever leak
you can change the oil with a jardine exhaustg system still inplace!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I've changed the oil with my V&H a couple times and I never remove the exhaust. I don't remember having any trouble getting the filter out. Oil does run out on that one part of my exhaust, but that doesn't bother me much. You could cover that part of the pipe with aluminum foil or something while you're changing the oil if it bothers you too much.
I have replaced gaskets when I've taken it off, so I usually try my best to not take it off so I don't have to replace them. Knowing that other people here haven't changed theirs, I'll probably leave mine be next time.
Quote from: tt_four on January 04, 2010, 07:27:43 AM
I've changed the oil with my V&H a couple times and I never remove the exhaust. I don't remember having any trouble getting the filter out. Oil does run out on that one part of my exhaust, but that doesn't bother me much. You could cover that part of the pipe with aluminum foil or something while you're changing the oil if it bothers you too much.
I have replaced gaskets when I've taken it off, so I usually try my best to not take it off so I don't have to replace them. Knowing that other people here haven't changed theirs, I'll probably leave mine be next time.
I cant physically get the old filter out or the new one in with out removing the headers, I tried! where are you getting the filter through? what year is your gs?
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on December 24, 2009, 06:21:54 PM
A lot of people on the forum have had good luck with gas grill paint.
-Jessie
+1 I've repainted mine twice with BBQ paint and it looks mint. Doesn't last as long as powder coating though...