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I've noticed some new helmets no longer have the 5 ticks sticker on the back but they have a different sticker that claims they pass AS/NZS 1698:2006
I found out that the 5 ticks isn't the Australian Standards logo, its SAI Global (a testing companies) trademark and that the rules are now now changing and no longer do helmet manufacturers have to have their helmet tested by SAI Global to get certification, hence the new stickers.
Be aware, if you get one of these new helmets and go to a track day, un-educated scrutineers may reject your application to race.
I'll try to find more info and a link to confirm these new changes.
I took the liberty of copying that pic and threw it up on another forum (two wheels forum), when I get some info I'll pass it on here. It's not just scrutineers you'd have to worry about, a copper is likely to give you a ticket for it.
this is where I first noticed it.
Some interestoing discussion
http://www.ksrc-au.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27667&sid=03a6f654e283631820e55571227d3564
but no soilid answer yet. I want to find a legal document I can quote
The info I received was that there are 7 companies that can issue certification stickers, as long as the helmet has the sticker saying that it complies to as/nzs you'll be right.
Just seems some race track organisers don't know this, so having a copy of the legislation would be handy.
Wow reading forums on the net, there seems to be alot of confusion over the sticker with many thinking the 5 ticks is a government label not a companies trade mark.
Really what is needed is a government apporval sticker.
This is interesting. I also asked my sister who is a police officer to look into it(she rides bikes too). Ill let you know what I find out.
I just purchased a Shark RSI also with the same sticker. It better be legal cause I had to buy another helmet due to my Shoei not having the sticker on it.
How do you find your Shark helmet Galahs?
Hey Guys,
I know for a fact that helmets must have either:
Snell DOT sticker on it, and/or the 5 tick AS standard.
One of either is legal. Had the argument with a officer the other day, when he tried to book me for no AS sticker on my KBC.
I am pretty sure the Snell DOT thing is the American standards? I don't think it has anything to do with Australia. My Shoei helmet is DOT Snell certified but is classed as illegal as it has no AS1698 sticker on it.
All helmets in Australia need to have an Australian/NZ 1698 sticker attached to your helmet. If it does not you can be booked for not actually wearing a helmet which is 3 demerit points and $320 fine. I also think this can affect your insurance claim if you crash.
http://www.motorcyclesafety.qld.gov.au/pdf/riders_guide_4_rider_protection.pdf
I think a few companies are doing the tests now hence the different stickers you can get on newer helmets.
Did you end up getting booked or did you get away with it? If you did I would say you were very lucky.
ok snell and dot are American and European and a helmet must have Australian Standards sticker to be worn on our roads, race tracks look for snell and dot
there is no standard AS sticker any more and most company's/importer's have their own
as long as the helmet has been tested and has a sticker your good to go
You don't need a sticker on the outside of the helmet, only a tag sewn to the lining of the helmet.
Depends on the state. The standard only requires the lining tag for it to be standards compliant, but a couple of states I believe specify that it must also have the sticker to be legal.
queensland popo are doing or 5 sticker checks on motorbikes they pull over iam told (4 people have had this done to them in the last few weeks, well thats what they say)
1)rego sticker
2)mod compliance plate (most places are using aluminium stickers)
3)licence renewal/change of address sticker
4)AS sticker on helmet
5)lams <-- this i dont get cause its on the rego sticker, but if they check rego then licence i would let them get away with it
Quote from: XLAR8 on November 10, 2010, 01:54:39 AM
queensland popo are doing or 5 sticker checks on motorbikes they pull over iam told (4 people have had this done to them in the last few weeks, well thats what they say)
1)rego sticker
2)mod compliance plate (most places are using aluminium stickers)
3)licence renewal/change of address sticker
4)AS sticker on helmet
5)lams <-- this i dont get cause its on the rego sticker, but if they check rego then licence i would let them get away with it
That's just revenue raising and harassment of motorcyclists.
Well if I am doing the right thing I expect everyone else too be. I think it is a good thing.
How is harrassment of motorcyclists for things like stickers on helmets, fender eliminators, or a slightly loud pipe, and licence 'checks' a good thing?
I just think your use of the word harassment is a bit dramatic is all. He never mentioned loud pipes or fender eliminators. It is just a few simple roadside checks according to XLAR8.
If you are doing the right thing you have nothing to worry about do you if you do get pulled over. 5 minutes while they check you over and you will be on your way.
Five minutes??? you are kidding aren't you? Most cops I've dealt with will keep you there for as long as they can.
I once got breathoed, then the car saerched, me and the missus searched, licence checked twice, an attempt at defecting the car, then drug tested all on the one stop.
I did nothing wrong, I didn't speed, be abusive. He just didn't like the look of my car, one very battered kingswood at the time. Well fricking sorry for not having an BMW or Merc >:(
Quote from: Aussie 500 on November 12, 2010, 02:11:22 AM
Five minutes??? you are kidding aren't you? Most cops I've dealt with will keep you there for as long as they can.
I once got breathoed, then the car saerched, me and the missus searched, licence checked twice, an attempt at defecting the car, then drug tested all on the one stop.
I did nothing wrong, I didn't speed, be abusive. He just didn't like the look of my car, one very battered kingswood at the time. Well fricking sorry for not having an BMW or Merc >:(
It wasn't the plasma tvs on the back seat that had them suspicious? :icon_lol:
I have never been kept longer than 5 mins on the bike when pulled over.
i hate when they put 2 rbt's just down the road from one and other..... i get them on milton rd and then on the western fwy.
its like ffs you just made me blow 2 k's down the street and iam clean so now you make me blow again.... what you think i had a drink in this time? :mad: at 5am on residential strip? and to top it off after being held up in 2 lines of traffic for 10 minutes each iam now late for work.
Normally the sole roadsides let bikes go - well, in my experience anyway. I have been pulled up by them though on occassion, during a blitz. Had some pimply-face still-in-the-academy guy as my bloke. Gloves off. Helmet off. Balaclava off (winter). Said to him... you know, if I was drunk I wouldn't be able to balance on the bike to ride it (trying to give him / plant an idea not to pull up bike riders when he graduates wink wink). I know, just doing what I'm told. In the course, he also checked the license. When done I made it a point to put all my gear on slowly, meticulously, to hold up everyone behind me. Cause by then all cars in front where well and truly gone - most had been done and released by the time I got my head gear off - and the cars behind were waiting.
In case you're wondering about those Blitzes... the cops have Breath Test Quotas to meet. And while it could work out to X a day, they don't bother with that. So once a month they grab the bins from the station and head out to some location and get most of their monthly quota in one hit. Alternatively, it's Academy Training.
In a room in that station is a whiteboard with the Quota written at the top and Done / To-Do numbers written below it. So at any time some Senior Sargent, OIC (Officer In Charge) or whatnot from head office or wherever can see how the station's performance is going with RBT.
I am curious though... where about's on Milton Rd were they? Near the park where they normally put the radar trap?
Michael
yeap and the block the road both ways... i must say i have not been stopped on the bike yet as ive only had it a month and only worked two Saturdays in that time (its always Saturday mornings).
Ocassionally, they'll block the Ipswich M'Way at Goodna where it's real wide. They set up Witches Hats up into Gailes. You think it's roadworks. Filter to one lane. Come around the corner and Blammo. Gotcha. Tooo late to take the Gailes Exit.
Also, at Annerly, out front of Annerly Police Station on Ipswich Rd. Round the corner, top the hill and Hello.
The biggest puzzle yet for me is... inbound on Centenary. After the bridge over the Brisbane River and up to the Bus Stop is all 80 zone. From a 100 down to 80 then back to 90. The cops sit at the Bus Stop. No radar visible. And will shoot off into the traffic and get select people. What I don't know is... WHERE is their radar trap for this one?
Michael
yeah i see a motorbike copper standing there just before the bus top (where the road works is atm)
Quote from: Twisted on November 12, 2010, 03:24:55 AM
It wasn't the plasma tvs on the back seat that had them suspicious? :icon_lol:
I have never been kept longer than 5 mins on the bike when pulled over.
I had reciepts for those..............I think :icon_confused:
I was just informed by a member of the Queensland Police Service... "We as cops have never and will never check or question anyone's helmets".
Of course, he Could be talking about Himself and those He knows.
Also, regarding helmets from the EU with the EU standards... "EU will be legal in Australia as of July 1 2011".
But he also advises... if concerned, stick with an AS lid and you cannot go wrong. Well, Duh! :)
Michael
What are the EU standards? Do they come under the DOT/SNELL classification or do they have their own?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_helmet#Laws_and_standards