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Title: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 11, 2010, 10:16:14 AM
I am trying to yank one of of a chrysler minivan and stuff it into my chrysler lebaron.

I have a compatibility list, but is there anything else I need, like the wiring and color codes off the donor car, or anything else, like an adapter kit etc.
Also the one I have that is dead only has tape and radio, I am looking for CD and radio or tape CD and radio. The opening in the dash is humongous cos that radio is huge. So plenty of room to stuff in something newer.

OK so I have the list of cars, but seeing as I am yanking one off a junkyard car, wouold always help if I could get more cars like chrysler is same as mitsu and nissan, honda, toyota can fit with color swap of red to blue for example.

Any ideas will help, I know some how the same stereo fits a 1000 different model cars with adapter wiring and cover plates (to cover the hole in the dash).

Thanks I know there is atleast a few experts on this subject here.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: kyle_99_gtp on January 11, 2010, 10:42:14 AM
If youre looking to replace the stereo Chrysler to Chrysler, you should have no big issues because the wires are most likely the same colors in both vehicles. I cant speak much for japanese cars because i havent worked on any, but all of the GM cars ive done radios in were corrected coordinated by colors. However if thats not the case, or if you wanted to go with an aftermarket deck/receiver, crutchfield would have any adaptor you might need, and you could get the model number there and probably find it even cheaper on ebay.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 11, 2010, 10:49:49 AM
If you go with an aftermarket stereo you can get a wire harness adapter and mounting kit to make it fit the Lebarons dash and plug right into the factory wire harness.  Walmart has a fair selection.  If you try swapping in a factory stereo from another vehicle at a junk yard I would take your old stereo with you to make sure the mounting brackets will fit and that the wire harness will plug up.  I know Chrysler has different connetors/wiring on the "Infinity" sound systems vs. the standard system.  If you are working with an Infinity system you will need to run a wire to signal the amps to turn on.  If you get into retrofitting a new wire harness connector you will need the wiring diagram for your car and the donor car you pulled the connector from to figure out your wire colors.  There is a standard convention for wire colors that most aftermarket stereo head units follow but most auto manufacturers use their own system.  Good luck!

-Jessie
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: scottpA_GS on January 11, 2010, 11:10:09 AM

+ 1 to buying and aftermarket CD player w/ harness adapter and dash kit.. you could buy a good radio that plays MP3s w/ wiring and all for like $100 at walmart
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 11, 2010, 11:22:32 AM
100 bucks what you think I'm made of $$$ ... pull a part sell radio for 5 bucks. I am going to mangle something and work it.

Anyway chrysler radio is what it has, not infinity. Now I am planning to get one that has a CD in it.

I hope I get a decent chrysler one. But if not, I guess an aftermarket one also form pull a part and adapter kit. I guess.

I fould this one - installdr.com but the stupid thing's PDF isn't loading ... but I believe they have a wiring codes list - like Right rear speaker - Blue with white stripe that type. I should load that page and check what ford, GM, Toyota, honda and what ever are. That would let me run loose at pull a part and get the thing.

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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 11, 2010, 11:53:44 AM
OK got that link and PDF pulled up. Its easy, I ahve a list of chrysler cars and am gonna try and find one that's not got water in it.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 11, 2010, 11:56:53 AM
I got a 6 disc changer I pulled out of a trade in vehicle that is taking up space in the garage.  It's a Pioneer model CDX-P650.  You'd have to find an FM modulator to run it though.

-Jessie
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 11, 2010, 01:24:36 PM
Ooooo yea ... my truck has a dead 6 cd changer ... so what would it be to swap it. The thing drops into the rear side of the cabin. Right behind the driver. The lebaron dont have the room to run it - atleast not wihtout major hacking up ... I am hoping to find a drop in some or other out of a newer minivan. Have my eye on a 2003 one tha twas lying there last month ...
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Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 11, 2010, 05:47:42 PM
OK pulled one out of a 98 chrysler concorde. Fit in the car and it works ... sorta, some lights on the little sliders etc dont come on all the time, volume control is well ... non existent.

However it works ...

Then here I get greedy ... OK, it has a round 6-7 wire plug on the back. It also has a 1-5 disk controls, so it had a CD player.

I located a minivan with a infinity speaker system, I am pulling them all off and dropping it in this car ... whooo hooo.

However I am unable to find a 5 cd anywhere in the donor car - the 98 concorde.

So ... where will the CD changer thing be on a 98 chrysler concorde ?

Then how do I wire it. Also it doesn't say infinity on the unit I pulled, but that car also had infinity stuff. Just that most of the speakers were cannibalised, the speaker covers say infinity on them ... so I know it had infinity. But were the receivers also infinity or just the speakers.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 11, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
The "Infinity" sound system used cheap speakers (not like aftermarket Infinity speakers) with separate amplifiers and crossovers from the head unit.  To work properly you'd need the amplifiers too.  If I remember correctly on my '99 Dakota there was an amp in the door and an amp in the rear side panel.  Toyota does the same thing with the company JBL Audio.  Pretty much the car company pays to put the well known audio company's name on their cheap factory speakers. 

Not sure where you find the disc changer in the Concord but I would guess in the trunk or glove box.  The wire to operate the CD changer should be in the car if it had one.  Toyotas come with stereos capable of operating a CD changer but the changer itself is an option that the customer has to pay extra for.  If Chrysler operates the same way then there may have never been a CD changer in that car.  If there was no wire plugged in the CD changer connector when you pulled the stereo I would assume that there wasn't one in the car.

-Jessie
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 11, 2010, 07:17:58 PM
Oh yea that horse shoe shaped crap hanging off the magnet was the in speaker amp I guess then ... OK cool. However it looked like it has mylar graphite diaphragms ... but I aint looking for an amp and cross over set in the bloody car ... not that I'd recognize it if it sat up and bit me ...

I found out some thing else. Its not an infinity unit that I bought. Its a 28046 supplier code, 26777 is infinity, but this guy has 5 band equaliser and some nifty doo hickeys some of which even work.

BUT ... its like this on this pic 3/4 way down on this page.
http://www.allpar.com/stereo/infinity-IV.html - and that is an infinity page wiht infinity BS

Except it doesn't have the CD slot.

OK tommorow I pitch the bugger in favor of something that has an inbuilt CD slot. Yea the bloody car had no wire running out of the big 6-7 wire round plug out the back, neither did it have the 2 pin white connection hooked up to anything.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 12, 2010, 08:30:09 PM
OK I give up. The crazy people @ chrysler didn't put a CD player in any thing till 2003 AFAIK ... unless of course you bought some super duper option package. As a related point I know why chrysler is owned by the taxpayer now.

And I found out 28046 is infinity and wiht the 1 more hour of use that I have subjected it to, most of the stuff started to work. volume is still a bit iffy to control but else its all cool

That is it, 7 bucks down and I am good.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 12, 2010, 08:37:57 PM
So now I'm curious, what music does the Buddha rock out to???

-Jessie
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 13, 2010, 07:57:05 AM
Ah ha ... if I was into music wouldn't I have sprung for something that does MP3 and HD radio types ... 100 bones still a bit rich ... but I'd have atleast throught about it. The kind of music that sounds the same with a crackly 1 speaker dealio or with the mother of all 7.2's ... AKA NPR.

BTW the thing suddenly conked out today ... all channels delivered crisp static ... the thing scanned and scanned ... then all of a sudden back on ... nice.

BTW how do you put somehting in memory. I have some presets but they are set wrong.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 13, 2010, 08:08:52 AM
So are you one of the passionate and/or crazy ranters that call into talk radio stations???  Been a while since I had my old Dodge but I believe you first tune the radio to the channel you want to program and then hold in the preset button you want that station to be on.  Good luck!

-Jessie
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 13, 2010, 08:15:43 AM
Talk - no I dont listen to talk radio ... That is usually well ... lets just say 1 sided tripe ... NPR is actually very neutral - atleast where the major issues are concerned.

The thing is - this this seems to not have the set or nothing do much of anything. Though I can just leave it in the station and turning it off doesn't kill it ... the other hting is ... after 1-2 hours of use so far after god knows how many years of lying in the junkyard, it is begningin to work better and better. It took over 10 mins to even turn on a tune in when I first plugged it in. I'll use it for 1-2 weeks before fiddling wiht it.

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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 14, 2010, 09:01:15 AM
OK guys ready to get stumped ... OK here goes.

The radio works great ... for 2 mins from a cold start. Then I lose FM. It stays out for 15-20 mins. Now it will cycle through the whole range and pick up nothing but static. It will seek and scan and scroll 1 at a time and still nothing but static. Then 20 mins in, it starts working and works like nothing went wrong.

Here is the kicker. The entire time AM works. 100% clear works perfect.

So ... what is going on.

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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 14, 2010, 11:15:25 AM
OK I believe I fixed it. It was a bad antenna connection, but how does AM work ... cos when I pulled it out AM also quit. Maybe AM can with a partial conenction. Whatever.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: kyle_99_gtp on January 19, 2010, 10:42:53 PM
AM radio waves and FM radio waves behave very differently, am will come in even when the signal is very weak.

it's all really confusing because they can broadcast in all different wavelengths and it still don't have my head wrapped around it. a site like howstuffworks would be your best bet to read up on, you know, save it for a rainy day.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 20, 2010, 09:35:36 AM
Its acting weird again.
I may have to put some tin foil in the conenction.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on January 21, 2010, 11:57:12 PM
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Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 22, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
OK so what do I do about an FM antenna problem ?

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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: kyle_99_gtp on January 25, 2010, 05:14:18 PM
is the antenna plug the same size on the new HU as it was on the old HU? you can get an adapter if theres any difference between the plugs.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: jeremy_nash on January 25, 2010, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on January 22, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
OK so what do I do about an FM antenna problem ?

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Buddha.

you could quit being so cheap and spend 20 bucks at a pawnshop and have a working radio :thumb:
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 25, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
Same plug and if I pull it and bend it a little it works for a few hours after which the plug straightens itself up.
I am htinking of getting a plug adapter sleeve ... or smashing it so its like a blade ... somethign for positive contact.
20 bucks is too much for a radio when a nice new one with HD and Mp3 capacity is 75 with the adapter and wiring kit for my car. Sorry $7 was rather high IMHO.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: kyle_99_gtp on January 26, 2010, 12:11:18 AM
There's nothing wrong with making things better on the cheap! I think flattening it out some would probably do the trick.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: The Buddha on January 26, 2010, 07:27:58 AM
The thing has a spring loaded clip of sorts on the inner wall of the receptacle. That clip seems to have turned well, non springy. Wonder if that can be re springied if I open the radio.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: jeremy_nash on January 26, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on January 25, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
20 bucks is too much for a radio when a nice new one with HD and Mp3 capacity is 75 with the adapter and wiring kit for my car. Sorry $7 was rather high IMHO.


that is true, either try flattening the plug a little, or try loosening one of the chassis screws, and attach a small peice of solid wire to it, taping it to the cable to keep it from coming unplugged
Title: Re: Car stereo help needed.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on January 28, 2010, 03:19:31 AM
Yeh , afro-ingenuity FTW, err jerry rigging, ehh, whadevah  :thumb: