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WEll My GS has been spectacular for the last year of ownership. Its a 2002(blue)and I face a dillema. My insaciable need for speed is something of a problem. I need to go faster. I have my eyes set on an '00 SV650, also blue, or a 96 GSX750 (I think thats the year). Both are in the same price range. Or I could keep the GS and upgrade even more than I have. DEcisions decisions, but I really need your help to choose. Iw ant to stick with SUzuki (im brand loyal).
SO, what do you think??? I prefer naked, but the 750 would be cool. SV? GS upgraded? By the way, Im gonna post my GS for sale here!!!
Maybe I should just rally drop the big dollers and get that Ducatti monster I want so badly.

SV650  
(http://photoserver1.trader.ca/autotrader/photos/large/2003/09-12/tcq/09-12-03tcq31-05.jpeg)

750
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My GS
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Skip the 96 GSXR750  Trust me thise motors are too peaky.  A 2001 + GSXR600 will have as much hit and more power down low.  plus nobody wants an old gixxer.

Make sure the SV shifts good as the trannys can be snatchy and the shift dogs get buggered up easily and the bike can pop out of second gear.  Other than a shaZam! tranny the SV is a great bike.

Quote from: Rich500...get that Ducatti monster I want so badly.

There's your answer.

Quote from: johnplus nobody wants an old gixxer.

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HAHAHA, this is getting funny!!!

Go with the SV650, if you like the torque of a twin. I had a 2002 SVS that I built for the track. Excellent handling bike. A little weak on power compared to my TL1000R but plenty of power over the GS. I owned a 2000 GSXR750 and hated the bike. Very buzzy and uncomfortable for longer rides. It's better as track bike. Rode my ex-g/f '99 GSXR600 and couldn't handle all the shifting. They rev very quickly and a lot of shifting is required to keep it in the power band. Don't go with Monster, there is a lot of expensive maintenance required with Ducati's.

Hmm there is a 2000 GSXR600 at a auction I am going to, maybe I wont bid on it then, unless its real cheap.

(http://www.toledopolice.com/Auctionpicts/009891-03.jpg)

Little scratched up and missing some stuff but have to look in person.

They also have a new Katana and older gen Katana 600 there..

WOW,  I am not the only one who has gone up the cc route and back down
streetbikes from past..
RZ350
ZX7
gsxr600
gsxr750
fj1200
GS500 and still riding it :cheers:
also a ysr50 (or 2) :nana:

how much speed does one NEED for the street?

Quote from: werase643

how much speed does one NEED for the street?

I'm just looking at a 600 for the gearing on the highway, the GS is too buzzy and revving too high at a true 80mph not speedo indicated.

If I could find a ZZR1200 or a K1200RS for what I can get a 600cc I4 sportbike for I'd prob buy that instead.

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Quote from: johnplus nobody wants an old gixxer.

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Pablo that pic is an 89-92 1100, 88 was just like the 86-87 bike, frame rails went lower and narrower. The frame on the 88 750 was fitted to the 1100 in 89.
Cool.
Srinath.

Personally, I would NEVER buy a used supersport.  I've seen how my friend drives his.

The GSXR 750 is a scary, scary bike.  It rev's so high, it's really crazy.  I actually prefer riding a GSXR 1000, I find it easier to handle.  Maybe I'm just used to the 11K red line :?

However, get whatever is the best value.  the gsxr should get you up to about 270KM/H.  that should be fast enough, right?

I'm not looking for top speed I want something that can handle 80mph for 1-2hrs or more on trips and not eat a ton of oil like the GS. The revs are just too high for the GS to be a distance bike of any type.

I bought my '00 TLR used but it only had 2200 miles and 5 months old. It now has over 13,000 miles and runs better now than when I bought it. Also, I got it for $2500 less than book value. Good condition used sportbikes can be found. Just have to know what to look for. Be careful with the indicated mileage, speedo's can easily be disconnected.

1-2 hrs at 80+ isn't hard for most sportbikes to handle. Just did 460 miles over a 13hr span Sunday with an average speed of around 75 and max at about 135mph. Several hours were in the 7-9k rpm range while in the twisties.

Jason - I agree with your observation.  I used to have a Honda CBR600F (Hurricane) and on the freeway it was much more comfortable to ride than the GS.  The combo of the fairing and more power makes a world of difference.  I got used to having almost instantaneous power whenever I wanted it, which was great for merging and changing lanes.  I've also taken a modified CBR F3 on the highway for an extended run and that bike was pretty quick.  I remember looking at the speedometer and being quite surprised at what it was registering.

On the freeway I ride most, the 57, the average car speeds can easily reach 90mph.  Just keeping up with traffic requires a lot of throttle on the GS and has caused my float bowls to run dry more than once (still working on that problem).

Quote from: JasonBI'm not looking for top speed I want something that can handle 80mph for 1-2hrs or more on trips and not eat a ton of oil like the GS. The revs are just too high for the GS to be a distance bike of any type.

On the following trips my '99 routinely went an indicated 80+ mph for an hour or two at a time (or more) on backroads and (ugh) freeways.  I'm not saying that it's a super smooth ride, or that I have all the power I want, but the little gal and I get along just fine overall.  (The Plexistar II windshield helps!)

As far as oil consumption - for some reason my bike's still not swallowing very much oil.  Maybe 1/2 qt on each 3100-3800 mile trip.

Total miles so far: 28,700.







EDIT: Changed links from sisna.com to bbburma.net

I treated my GSXR with respect.  It was mechanically perfect and NOT beaten.  Look for melted bits of rubber inder the tail and behind the lic plate -always a dead giveaway.

Quote from: johnI treated my GSXR with respect.  It was mechanically perfect and NOT beaten.  Look for melted bits of rubber inder the tail and behind the lic plate -always a dead giveaway.

What's the rubber from?  Burnouts?  And did you ever figure out how to stop the SV from popping out of 2nd and into Nuetral?  It did that to me this weekend while I was leaned over in a turn  :x
BTW, you are the only person I know who ever owned a GSXr like he wanted to keep it.  I cringe when I see the kids in town stunt the life out of their bikes, and on public roads no less  :nono:   I know too many who crashed after a few months, reported thier bike stolen, took the insurance $ and then parted the bike out on EBAY.

The SV1000 will do what you want, and costs a lot less than the Monster -- up front and over time.  It revs about 4500-5000 at 80mph, with plenty of get-up-and-go from there if you want it.  It's not struggling at all. Plus, it has lots of torque down low, right from the start, which you won't be used to from the GS and you may or may not like.  It's more power to handle and takes some getting used to.  But once you're used to it, it's addictive.

Quote from: AfterburnerThe SV1000 will do what you want, and costs a lot less than the Monster -- up front and over time.  It revs about 4500-5000 at 80mph, with plenty of get-up-and-go from there if you want it.  It's not struggling at all. Plus, it has lots of torque down low, right from the start, which you won't be used to from the GS and you may or may not like.  It's more power to handle and takes some getting used to.  But once you're used to it, it's addictive.

Guy at the Honda/Suzuki dealer took the z1000 out for a spin and came back with a big fat grin saying the SV1000 was nothing compared to the Z.  He did say the SV1000 was a wheelie machine and the z felt far more planted.

Quote from: fuzzymemoryAnd did you ever figure out how to stop the SV from popping out of 2nd and into Nuetral?  It did that to me this weekend while I was leaned over in a turn  :x

YEs!  There is an easy way to fix it.  SELL THE BIKE!  The shift dog is probably *slightly* worn but will get worse and fixing it is a BIG $

I know its wrong to trade in a bike that you know has or is developing a problem but it's either that or spens a grand fixing your SV in a couple years after you get sick of it always popping out of gear.

Read my past comments on this noard, I like the SV but always warn it had a shaZam! tranny.  Get a 2001+ GSXR and retro those bar risers you told me about :D

thanks for the info. wasnt aware of the tranny probs. was lookin at one myself :thumb:

R6's also have this problem from 98-2002. Fixed it in 2003 so I've heard. And it shows up in higher miles.

Exellent advice form everyone. I think I am going to go with the SV650. I just llike it.
Do you think it ahs enough balls to power wheelie? Thats important to me :cheers:

Quote from: Rich500Exellent advice form everyone. I think I am going to go with the SV650. I just llike it.
Do you think it ahs enough balls to power wheelie? Thats important to me :cheers:

The SV wheelies easier than many 600 supersport bikes due to the torque all over the powerband.  I've accidentally power wheelied the SV more than once.
Going from an abused, underpowered GS to my modded SV was quite a shock - I couldn't run WOT all the time like I did with my GS  :mrgreen:

So it will wheelie pretty easily hey? Good too hear.

What do you all think aboutt he 2000 Katana 750. I like it. I think it would be decent especially for longer rides from Calgary to Cali. :cheers:

Katana after 97 look fugly. All of them are still heavier than the GS. Heard they are real comfy for a tourer tho. Definatly not a sportbike.