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Title: Odd Gas leak
Post by: ssinema on January 29, 2010, 07:02:14 PM
Ok, so I took my 04 GS apart the other day to clean out the green crap in my carbs.  Got them all cleaned up and she started but ran rough. I figure that will go away with a few miles on her, but now I have a gasoline drip that was never there before. It seems to be coming from the vent tube that comes out at the bottom of the bike.  I suppose it is also possible that I put the jets in wrong since I couldnt remember which size jet when where. I didnt think to look at the right side when I put the left side together, and didnt realize I had done it until the right side was already torn apart. SO...now I dont know what to do. I will be tearing it apart again tomorrow I guess, but I thought I would post here for any advice you all might have.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 29, 2010, 07:10:13 PM
My first thought would be that a float needle isn't seating properly in it's seat allowing the fuel in the fuel line out of the petcock to flow into the carb and leak out the overflow.  Leave the petcock in prime and see if the whole tank drains out   :D

-Jessie
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: The Buddha on January 29, 2010, 08:05:02 PM
Dude your question is haphazard, and you working on the bike ... well its just a hazard.
Sorry, you're gonna have to be more specific, and you cannot fit anything anywhere, this isn't a uhaul trailer you're stuffing with boxes. Jets have numbers and they have to go back in where they came out of. So do needle seats etc etc ...

You send it to me and I'll set it right ... Or post pics and more detailed and precise questions and you could get better answers from someone here.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: dauphinc on January 30, 2010, 10:14:19 AM
I agree with Buddha. Have you ever worked on carburetors before? Then if you did, you would understand how critical it is to put things back the right way.
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: ssinema on January 30, 2010, 05:36:32 PM
yes, I have worked on carbs before. I am sorry that you folks seem to think Im an idiot. I shouldnt have been working on the bike that day anyway since my mind was in a whole other place. But oh well.  I guess the next time I need help on something I will not be asking here. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: mister on January 30, 2010, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: ssinema on January 30, 2010, 05:36:32 PM
yes, I have worked on carbs before. I am sorry that you folks seem to think Im an idiot. I shouldnt have been working on the bike that day anyway since my mind was in a whole other place. But oh well.  I guess the next time I need help on something I will not be asking here. Thanks a lot.

Based on what you first posted........ pull apart, not pay attention to what goes where or what size this goes with that or whatever, of course your previous carb experience will be called into question. No need to get your knickers in a knot over it. Re-read what you first posted and you'll see Why you got the answers you did.

Buddha offered to help. All you had to do was post pics. Not develop a snooty attitude to the entire place.

Michael
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: dauphinc on January 31, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
100% agreed Mister.
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: bigfatcat on January 31, 2010, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on January 29, 2010, 07:10:13 PM
My first thought would be that a float needle isn't seating properly in it's seat allowing the fuel in the fuel line out of the petcock to flow into the carb and leak out the overflow.  Leave the petcock in prime and see if the whole tank drains out   :D

-Jessie

Wouldn't this allow fuel to flood a cylinder or both cylinders ? Then you have a possibility of hydro lock ?  And/or fuel contamination of the oil. ??
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 31, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: bigfatcat on January 31, 2010, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on January 29, 2010, 07:10:13 PM
My first thought would be that a float needle isn't seating properly in it's seat allowing the fuel in the fuel line out of the petcock to flow into the carb and leak out the overflow.  Leave the petcock in prime and see if the whole tank drains out   :D

-Jessie

Wouldn't this allow fuel to flood a cylinder or both cylinders ? Then you have a possibility of hydro lock ?  And/or fuel contamination of the oil. ??

It will if you leave the petcock in the prime position, the second sentence was meant as a joke.  There isn't enough fuel in the line coming out of the petcock to cause major damage if you are in the on or pri positions.

-Jessie
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: trumpetguy on January 31, 2010, 09:09:50 PM
If you pull the carbs back out, check the o-rings under the float needle valve seats.  The seats pull out and are held in ONLY by the o-ring.  If it is loose, the needle itself is totally out of the loop as gas flows around the seat itself.  O'Reilly's Auto Parts in the US (and probably many others) have the correct size o-ring.

My 98 had that problem last month.  I doubt seriously if the o-rings in an 04 are faulty, though (I just re-read your initial post).
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: ssinema on February 06, 2010, 09:48:58 AM
The initial gas leak was coming from the overflow in the air box. Since it is possible I put the jet back in incorrectly, I took it all apart again and switched them, but that didnt help.  All that did was create the issue of running only in choke, any throttle and it would die.  Then it snowed on us and I havent touched it since.  Il pull it out again and switch them back, check the o-rings and we will see.  mind you when i took it apart the first time to clean them, I removed the bowls and cleaned everything. I did not completely disassemble the whole carb. oh well.  Whatever it is I am sure it will be something simple as always.
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: BaltimoreGS on February 06, 2010, 10:56:32 AM
Glad to see you weren't scared off.  Most of the guys on this board are friendly and try to help out others.  Some statements can be taken out of context on the internet and, like everyone, we all have our bad days.  Sounds like you may have a clogged jet if you are running on one cylinder with the choke on, check them out when you take it back apart.  How does the inside of your fuel tank look?  Rust in the tank can wreak havoc on carbs.  I've never had to rebuild carbs on a GS yet, usually a good cleaning does the trick.  Good luck, I hope you get your GS running good before spring   :thumb:

-Jessie
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: dauphinc on February 06, 2010, 12:54:02 PM
(don't mean to hijack this thread,but just wondering) are the newer models treated with something in the tank to prevent rust?
Title: Re: Odd Gas leak
Post by: BaltimoreGS on February 06, 2010, 01:21:35 PM
Not that I'm aware of.  If the tank is kept full most of the time rust shouldn't be a problem.  Just run some dry gas through occasionally to get out the condensation that collcts in the bottom.

-Jessie