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Main Area => General GS500 Discussion => Topic started by: gregvhen on February 06, 2010, 09:35:43 PM

Poll
Question: Have you noticed...
Option 1: more power/pull after a 5* advance votes: 4
Option 2: better fuel economy after 5* advance votes: 0
Option 3: nothing at all after 5* advance votes: 1
Option 4: easier starting after 5* votes: 0
Option 5: harder starting after 5* votes: 0
Option 6: other positive change after 5* votes: 0
Option 7: other negative change after 5* votes: 0
Option 8: I have more/less than 5* and will post my experience votes: 3
Title: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: gregvhen on February 06, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
yep, 8 options  :thumb:
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: kylegod on February 06, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
what did the old vance and hines advancer do?
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: gregvhen on February 07, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: kylegod on February 06, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
what did the old vance and hines advancer do?

bump same question
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: black and silver twin on February 07, 2010, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: gregvhen on February 07, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: kylegod on February 06, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
what did the old vance and hines advancer do?

bump same question

no idea but there unavailable now anyway. I do know it was a simple hardware change though so nothing fancy. advancing your timing is easy:

1. remove timing cover
2. remove pickup coil
3. remove rotor
4. remove plate
5. grind holes in the plate so the plate can be rotated 5* (4mm aprox.) counter-clockwise
6. install every thing back

I actually dyno tuned mine last summer with varying amounts of timing. and the bottom line was, on regular gas with V&H exhaust, lunchbox, and carbs already dynotuned, +5* is safe and gives around 2whp at peak(9800ish rpms)and over 3whp above 10000rpm. plus more power everywhere else and smoother idle/low-rpm-riding and a small MPG increase.

I settled on +6* with colder plugs and 13:1afr, but im sure with alittle more fuel I could add another degree or two for another 1/2whp.

and finally with stock internals, the gs just didnt like mid-grade or premium gas. it rode fine and felt just as fast but it made less power on the dyno. It made the most power on regular gas with +6* timing, even mid-grade with +8 degrees made less.
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: ineedanap on February 07, 2010, 09:43:11 PM
Vance and Hines is 5 degrees.  

Nice job on the tuning and dyno info.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: tt_four on February 08, 2010, 07:08:20 AM
I have one on my bike, and to be honest I still don't even understand what the thing does...  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: O.C.D. on February 08, 2010, 08:33:02 AM
You should allow multiple selections as there are more than one options I have experienced.

I noticed better low-end, better lugging in lower rpm's, better acceleration, less drivetrain backlash, etc.

I am glad I did it.
Title: Re: Ignition Advance performance gain?
Post by: black and silver twin on February 08, 2010, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: tt_four on February 08, 2010, 07:08:20 AM
I have one on my bike, and to be honest I still don't even understand what the thing does...  :dunno_white:

It advances the ignition timing by 5* over stock. this yeilds more power, more torque, less bogging, less vibration, and potentially better MPG. the improvement becomes more noticeable when more mods are done.