Hey guys. So I bought 4 Moto LED signal lights. I hooked them all up the right way. I turn the key on and test the signal and what happens is that All lights come and stay on at the same time! If I turn left, all 4 lights come on and don't flash. Same thing if I turn right... My battery is a 12.0v. And these lights work on 12.0v's. So now what? Do I need a restrictor? Should I replace the old relay? I'm pretty stuck on this one
you need to put some resistors in there or whatever it takes. I know nothing at all about electrical work to actually tell you what's needed, but basically the turn signal system is set up so if one light goes out, none of them will blink, and that's how you know when one of your bulbs goes out. Well you put on the led lights, which do not draw any where near the electricity of normal light bulbs, so now your bike thinks all 4 of your bulbs are burned out, and it isn't blinking. Do whatever people do to make the bike think it still has working light bulbs and you'll be set.
like tt said, adding resistors will make everything work.
Another neater way (no extra parts laying around) is to swap out the mechanical flasher for an electronic flasher, and then wire in a diode at the turn signal indicator. Kirkurian (spelling???) makes a nice cheap diode kit. You can get the flasher at the auto parts store.
Unplug the old flasher and plug the new one in. Cut one wire and splice the diode in. Run an extra wire to ground and you're done.
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That's the way to go.
Search, too. Lots of GSTwinners have been down this road.
Ineedanap is right on with what needs to be done. I have all led blinkers set up. Fortunately the original owner had put in an electronic flasher so i didn't have to replace that but i did have to splice in a diode and run the one side to a ground. (I just ran a wire to the ground on the battery itself)
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/16/scID/114/IMID/719
there is a link to the diode kit that he is referring to.
I tried this once with some LED light strips stuck right to my tail, and it took several trips to radio shack and me doing an awful job of just adding a ton of resistors inline to try to get the lights to blink right. I ended up just scrapping the idea since I hate electrical stuff.
Do you need one of those diode kits for each turn signal, or do you just get one and put it in on the flasher? just for fututre reference.
It only takes one diode and it actually goes by the indicator light on the dash. I forget exactly which wire it went on but i know I installed it right behind my headlight (F model) on one of the wires going into the indicator on the dash. If nobody else can tell you which wire exactly i can look at my bike this weekend and tell you exactly which wire it is connected to. Their was a post on here that had a wiring diagram showing exactly where and how to connect the diode.
So you are going to spend $32 for all that?! Surely we can figure out what kind of diode is in there and just do that ourselves?
I am not going to spend that much.
OK EE's, what size/kind of diode goes in there?
It is only $8 for the diode. You only need 1 diode for the bike. You probably could go to radio shack and get the diode you need for $5 but is it really worth the trouble to save $3 and knowing what you got is proven and works as others on this board have also bought the kuryakan diode and have no problems.
Quote from: bassmechanicsz on March 23, 2010, 09:43:50 AM
It is only $8 for the diode. You only need 1 diode for the bike. You probably could go to radio shack and get the diode you need for $5 but is it really worth the trouble to save $3 and knowing what you got is proven and works as others on this board have also bought the kuryakan diode and have no problems.
I started typing my other response while actually doing some work at work so I didn't get to read what you said after the fact.
Anyway, so there only needs to be one then?!
Can we splice any light or does it need to be a signal?
$7.99 for three pieces of wire and a diode.
$7.99 to ship three pieces of wire and a diode. :bs:
I just ordered it, lol.
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 23, 2010, 09:35:28 AM
OK EE's, what size/kind of diode goes in there?
Needs two (the diode kit sold by Kuyriakyuinkiakun is really two diodes) like this at radio shack: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2036268
$.99 for the pair.
Sweet, I just paid $16 for two .99 cent diodes and wire, LMAO.
When it gets here I will rip it apart to confirm the internals so no one else has to spend that much.
Quote from: ineedanap on March 22, 2010, 07:56:29 PM
Another neater way (no extra parts laying around) is to swap out the mechanical flasher for an electronic flasher, and then wire in a diode at the turn signal indicator. Kirkurian (spelling???) makes a nice cheap diode kit. You can get the flasher at the auto parts store.
Unplug the old flasher and plug the new one in. Cut one wire and splice the diode in. Run an extra wire to ground and you're done.
Do I need to get a new flasher still or does the Kuryakyn diode deal take care of it all?
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 23, 2010, 10:03:39 AM
Do I need to get a new flasher still or does the Kuryakyn diode deal take care of it all?
Still need the electronic flasher (or "load balancers") in addition to the diode kit.
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 23, 2010, 09:56:18 AM
Sweet, I just paid $16 for two .99 cent diodes and wire, LMAO.
LOL, that's 49.5 cents each! And they probably buy them 1000 at a time for 4.5 cents each.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=1N4001GOS-ND
Quote from: Paulcet on March 23, 2010, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: O.C.D. on March 23, 2010, 10:03:39 AM
Do I need to get a new flasher still or does the Kuryakyn diode deal take care of it all?
Still need the electronic flasher (or "load balancers") in addition to the diode kit.
So years ago when i put 60-count led brake lights in my Jeep I had the same issue. What I did was open the flasher unit and cut a bridge in the board. That saved me the $20 and has been fine for 5 years.
I wonder if this is the same type deal?
Is this the same kind of flasher found in a vehicle that is in the GS?
Example:
http://www.ledlight.com/electronic-led-flasher-ep29.aspx
nevermind. wrong button again.
I think it'll be different. None of those in the ledlight.com link are like the GS flasher.
So where is the GS signal flasher.
Better yet, who knows which electronic flasher I need.
Better than that, show me a link!!!!!
I can always use help, thanks. ;)
The GS flasher is on the right, on the subframe, near the starter relay.
Here's a link to an electronic 2-wire one.
http://customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm
I should have said "so where is the replacement signal flasher", lol. I know where it is on the frame.
So I need this with the above mentioned diode setup?!
Seems like this will do it all for you? Any input from others?
Thanks Paulcet!
Ok so here is the run down. I just got 4 LED T/S and hooked them up and got the same problem all 4 on at one time. I didn't want to have to buy more to get them to work so..... I tried something most will not try :nono: but i did anyway. I'v read the posts about you have to add this and that buy this install that. When the whole time the relay is looking for more load. Right? So i was thinking what do i have that i do not have to buy more and more. Then it hit me if it wants more load then give it to it. Well i did i hacked up my back OEM T/S and got the light housing (just the wires and metal housing) covered the bulb in black tape tapped in to + & - on the LED's with them and tucked them under my seat and BLINK !!!! BLINK !!!! worked like a charm! :woohoo:
no out of pocket money and your good!!!!!
i know most of you out there are going the dumb :cookoo: azz but hey they work and im happy with it.
You do realize resistors are only like a couple bucks.
Quote from: importslife on July 03, 2010, 08:54:27 PM
Ok so here is the run down. I just got 4 LED T/S and hooked them up and got the same problem all 4 on at one time. I didn't want to have to buy more to get them to work so..... I tried something most will not try :nono: but i did anyway. I'v read the posts about you have to add this and that buy this install that. When the whole time the relay is looking for more load. Right? So i was thinking what do i have that i do not have to buy more and more. Then it hit me if it wants more load then give it to it. Well i did i hacked up my back OEM T/S and got the light housing (just the wires and metal housing) covered the bulb in black tape tapped in to + & - on the LED's with them and tucked them under my seat and BLINK !!!! BLINK !!!! worked like a charm! :woohoo:
no out of pocket money and your good!!!!!
i know most of you out there are going the dumb :cookoo: azz but hey they work and im happy with it.
No problem with that approach, except that with the bulbs taped up they may get hot and blow. The fact that they're only on half the time might save them though.
For the people with all four lights on: If you pull the bulb out of the panel indicator light, you will only get the side you want, but the standard flasher still won't flash without a load.
OCD do tyou want the resistor I can send you my old one!
Mary
You can also just change the bulbs out to LED's with built-in resistor circuits.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on July 04, 2010, 10:19:12 AM
OCD do tyou want the resistor I can send you my old one!
Mary
lol naw thank you Mary. im good just wanted to share my findings if someone like me wants to do it that way. and to show you a no out of pocket way to do it :thumb:
Mkay, I just got the electronic flash controller and popped it in. Pretty trick. I got some diodes as well and found this link that tells you how to wire them up.
http://www.kuryakyn.com/documents/installation/4709-21MC-0703.pdf (http://www.kuryakyn.com/documents/installation/4709-21MC-0703.pdf)
What directions should the diodes face? They have those little lines of paint that indicate their positive and negative sides.
Right now the signals are functioning perfectly, but I'm assuming when I wire in my indicator light (got the goodies for that too) its going to create a bridge for the power to flow back and cause all four to light up. So I'll need to wire in the diode. I can either try to find the stock indicator wire light or I can run new wires, I wonder if that back flow would still happen if I just tapped the wire running out of the switch.
I'll have to check my diagram and just try some stuff I suppose.
the little lines on the diode should be on the side closest to the bulb.