Hey folks,
Sorry to bug you with a question that has been asked before - can't find the thread where I saw this. Over the winter someone posted pictures of an R6 shock next to the stock 500 shock. If I recall correctly, this was a pretty straightforward swap. Does anyone remember what year(s) R6 shocks were the ones that swapped?
HA!
Wow, the search function works a treat... :icon_mrgreen:
As you were, nothing to see here.
Post the link please. I'm interested.
I'm looking at picking up a GS and have a Fox twin clicker for a 99-02 R6 that I'd be interested in using, do they work?
Not sure about the 99-02 shock. I did some more digging, and found that the shock mentioned above is from an 06-07 Yamaha R6. The good news is that the shock is rebound, pre-load, high speed compression, and low speed compression adjustable. The bad news is that the spring is a 9.0kg/mm unit, which isn't much stiffer than stock. Personally, I run something closer to a 11.0kg/mm unit on my race bike.
Junkie, any chance you're looking at this shock (http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332555)?
Unfortunately, it will not work on a GS. The GS requires a Clevis lower mount. The 99-02 shock appears to have an eyebolt lower mount.
looking at? that's my shock... note the same username.
too bad to hear it won't fit. might be able to fab a lower clevice though...
Heh. I didn't notice the username. :)
I'm actually a user image oriented person. Whenever someone changes their icon it always takes me a while to figure out who the hell they are. Same deal in real life. I tend to remember faces, but not names.
By the way... I just ordered an 06 R6 shock off of ebay. I'll post information once I've had a chance to compare it to the stock unit and test fit it.
you wont regret it. You may need to grind off a bit of the swingarm. search my name. i did a how to on this if you need some pics.
My shock just arrived. I'll post up some pictures and measurements against the stock shock a little later this evening.
No pictures for now. I'm off to AFM round 3, and don't have the time. I'll take the R6 shock to Dave Moss of Catalyst Reactions to see what he suggests.
My shock is an 06 YZF R6 shock, with the lower clevis mount, upper eyebolt mount, piggyback reservoir, rebound, pre-load, high speed, and low speed compression adjustment.
Initial notes:
The R6 shock is exactly the same length as the GS500 shock, so you can install it without affecting the overall geometry of the bike. The upper eyehole takes the same size bolt as the stock shock, and is exactly the same width - 30mm. So, it's an easy mount-up. The lower clevis mount is the same width as the stock mount, but it takes a bolt that is 2mm thicker than the GS. I'll either have to fab a spacer to take up the slack, or find someway to modify the GS linkage.
The lower spring retainer is taller than the stock GS retainer, and I believe it's also taller than the Katana retainer I have now. I haven't installed the shock, but I'm hoping that the spring will completely clear the swingarm.
The spring it's self is also a little smaller outside diameter than the Katana spring, but that's going to be partially due to the spring rate. The R6 shock is sprung almost identically to the stock GS shock, which means it's going to be way too soft for race use. The new spring I install will have to be thicker than the existing R6 spring...
More later. My ride is here.
Did you find a part number for that inner race/spacer/a-hole of a part?
Kinda hoping I don't need to buy the entire d@mn bearing.
Okay, we have the good news.
Here's the bad news: The rebound valving on the R6 shock is going to be too soft for race use, and probably too soft for street use as well... So, unlike the Katana Shocks, the R6 isn't going to be the ideal 'drop-in and go' race shock. Expect to spend $100 or so on a new spring, another $160 for the racetech valve kit* in order to make this shock work well.
* I'm guessing you could find a shim set for the stock valve at a lower price.
It seems like the R6 shock is a good platform for building up a super high performance suspension. But if you want an inexpensive 'upgrade and go' shock, the Katana shock is probably still the best bet.
For what it's worth, this weekend I was turning 2:02s around Infineon raceway. Engine is absolutely stock (all the way to the airbox and jetting.) Front end is stock fork bodies, with Emulators, Springs, Buddha's brace, and Fork oil. Rear shock is a 2001 Katana 750 shock, with a little grinding to fit. The Katana shock works *very* well on this bike - the rear end hasn't slid on me at all, even grinding my knee and pegs through turn 6, the carousel.
Quote from: Homer on May 22, 2010, 12:15:00 AM
Did you find a part number for that inner race/spacer/a-hole of a part?
Kinda hoping I don't need to buy the entire d@mn bearing.
The people I talked to recommended finding a set of spacers that would permit the stock size bolt to sit in the lower clevis of the shock... However, I'll take a look at the GS linkage to see if there is another route to mounting up the shock. IMO, that's going to be the most reliable and least fiddly approach in the long term.
I think, however... That it would be worth looking into installing the swingarm and wheel off a more modern bike. The stock GS rim/swingarm are *very* heavy. Lighter weight parts would provide a big handling improvement.
Thanks for the update.
Please do post pictures. I am thinking of doing both ends of the suspension this coming winter and I'd like to have all my ducks in a row.
I found a few of the threads you were talking about:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49468.0
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50116.0
It looks like the 08-10 model year shocks will work as well, and they would probably be a better choice, since the reservoir is physically smaller.
As far as mounting the shock up... Another post on the GS forum provides the best solution - use the R6 collar, bolt and nut when installing, rather than trying to shim the GS bolt, or weld the R6 shock.
So use this part: 90387-127W0-00 (http://www.ronayers.com/Search/N/687/PartNumber/90387-127W0-00/Source/YA)
Instead of this part: 62684-01D10 (http://www.ronayers.com/Search/N/687/PartNumber/62684-01D10/Source/SU)
I'll purchase these parts myself and report back on how they fit.
Quote from: Bluehaze on August 12, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
ok. so my Yamaha nuts bolt and collar arrived. Fits in PERFECTLY.
Here are the yamaha parts number if you decide to use it.
90109-12011-00 --This is the Bolt
90185-12119-00 --Nut, Self-Locking
90387-127W0-00 -- Collar
By the way... According to Race Tech, the 08-10 R6 shocks have the same squishy spring that's on the 06-07 shocks.
I'm sucking at life. OK, not at life... but at getting this R6 shock buisness sorted. Paging burning1... burning1 to the white courtesy phone please...
Thanks for bumping this thread. I need to redact what I posted earlier about the spring rate being too soft - it was based on some bad info. Spring rate and rebound damping are actually great on this shock, and it should be a more or less bolt on upgrade for anyone in the 160-200lb range.
Quote from: burning1 on August 24, 2011, 04:20:38 PM
Thanks for bumping this thread. I need to redact what I posted earlier about the spring rate being too soft - it was based on some bad info. Spring rate and rebound damping are actually great on this shock, and it should be a more or less bolt on upgrade for anyone in the 160-200lb range.
Excellent news.
I will post pictures once I have it all sorted out. This will be an excellent upgrade, the forks have just been rebuilt with Ricor Intiminators:
http://store.ricorshocks.com/default.asp
Taken together it should make the bike handle a lot better.
Well... that was easy... :icon_mrgreen:
Burning1, you rock. Straight swap, no machining, no grinding, no nothing other than unbolt, get rid of stocker, bolt R6 shock with the couple of R6 parts you told me to buy.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/215/smlu11finishedbike24sep.jpg)
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5618/smlu20r6shock24sep2011.jpg)
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3081/smlu21r6shock24sep2011.jpg)
Glad it worked out, and thanks for posting pics/update. :)
Posting this in the open forum as an FYI, as I've got a couple of people asking about the shock and caliper swap via PM.
The disc is from Braking, you will need model STX12D. Easy as it gets, just unbolt your old disc from the wheel and bolt the new one. I got it from these guys:
http://www.amazon.com/Braking-Non-Directional-STX-Brake-Rotor/dp/B000GV8N48
The caliper is an eBay find, came from a 2000 GSXR-750. Same calipers found in any SV1000 and some years of GSXR-600. A complete list of suitable donor bikes comes with the adapter brackets.
Adapter brackets are from Blair Layton at SV Racing Parts. He sells adapters so you can use Tokico calipers (~2000-2003 GSXR 600/750; any year SV1000) or Nissin calipers (CBR 929/954). Sadly he refuses to sell just the RH side so you are stuck with one adapter for each side. Maybe if we all bug him enough he might give in.
The online store, Nissin caliper adapters - http://www.svracingparts.com/products/#ecwid:mode=product&product=1632829
Ditto, Tokico caliper adapters - http://www.svracingparts.com/products/#ecwid:mode=product&product=1632817
With better pictures, from the SV Rider forums - http://www.svrider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120393
What to do with the extra adapter? For those ambitious enough, the Japanese forks for the GS500 (before they went to Paioli for the 500F) are identical to those for the Bandit 400, except the caliper mounts for the little Bandit are on the LH leg and the caliper mounts for the GS500 are on the RH leg. It is highly likely that you could have discs on both sides if you found a matching set of LH Bandit / RH GS forks. The stock wheel comes pre-drilled for the disc bolts on both sides, hardly surprising as it is the same wheel used on the Bandit 400. Just have to remove the plastic cover hiding the holes on the LH side, takes all of 30 sec.
The shock is another eBay find, sourced from a 2008 R6 that was converted to racing duty from new. These shocks are plentiful, no need to pay over $60.00 for one that is an excellent condition. Other years will work as previously discussed in this thread. The shock is ridiculous, pretty much a direct swap. Everything on top remains GS500, everything on the bottom is R6.
- Upper bolt: GS500
- Lower bolt, nut, and spacer: R6
Verbatim from burning1, the first person to get this right and the one who gave me the instructions on how to do it:
"The R6 spacer slips into the GS500 linkage, replacing the GS500 spacer. Be careful not to lose any of the needle bearings in the process. Bolt the shock to the linkage using the R6 bolt and nut."
I didn't have to grind anything. Went in with minimal effort.
Finally, the forks were rebuilt by Gregg Spears of Spears Racing. He is a big name in the SV650 racing community and has the distribution rights to the Ricor Intiminators for that bike. He gave me a pretty sweet deal for rebuilding the GS500 forks with Intiminators because he'd never installed a set in a GS500 and wanted to see what could be done. He also took care of the powder coating, the forks look great, the triple clamp looks amazing. The Intiminators are a remarkable little gadget. The damping on the forks is vastly improved over stock. The bike feels planted, feedback is quite alright, the suspension feels controlled and taut, but not harsh. I can't do a fair comparison to Race-Tech emulators because I have never ridden a GS500 equipped with emulators, but I have ridden an SV650 so equipped, and IMHO the Intiminator is the better product. If you are feeling extra ambitious you could do a front end swap for something fancy, USD with radial mounts and all. To me that was too much effort for what is essentially my commuter/beater. The Intiminators are super nice for what they are, easy to forget you are on a cheap 37 mm damper rod fork with these installed.
http://www.spearsenterprises.com/
Glamour shots... :icon_mrgreen:
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8213/gs500m.jpg)
Someone who can, please upgrade the wiki with this info?
http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Upgrades.RearShock
I think eventually I'll start working my way through the Wiki, but it would be good to get the info in there if someone else wants to have a crack at it.
Just got my shock in :woohoo:
Does anyone have a good method for adjusting preload with out the factory yamaha tool?
Edit: I ended up just used a long screwdriver and a mallet to change the preload adjustment.
From fraze11:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=58640.0
Quote from: fraze11 on December 25, 2011, 09:54:56 AM
If anyone has installed a rear shock (preferrably the R6) would you be able to share how you installed it..and by "installed it" I mean how did you physically get it into the bike? I managed to wrangle the stock shock out of the bottom of the bike by removing the front single bolt from the swing arm pivot that attaches to the dog bones BUT given the R6 shock has that resevior It won't fit in the way the stock one came out ... Before I start ripping the bike apart I just wanted to ask from those who have done this if there is a simpler way that I might be overlooking ... So how did you get the shock in the bike? Thanks! Note: I have all the required Yamaha parts for the install (sleeve, bolt etc) I just need to get the shock INTO the bike! :dunno_black:
Quote from: fraze11 on December 26, 2011, 12:33:23 PM
ok, so after a night of head scratching I got it in (without removing the tank/airbox etc). I removed the plastic chain guard and the heel plate and that created enough room to go in from the side and turn it downwards. So to anyone considering this...08+ R6 shocks will go in through the side :)
Now another question if I may; After getting it in and all bolted up it is very close to the swing arm. I saw some post from guys here who said they had to grind a bit and some said they didn't grind and it was fine? So my question is ... is paper thin too close? I dont remember how close the stock shock was to the back...could perhaps anyone with the stock shock have a quick peek and let me know how close it is? I dont want to have to rip this all out and grind..but if I have to I will. Just looking for others experiences. Thanks.
Heres a pic of what I mean, how close is the stock one?
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2ustok5.jpg)
Installed
(http://i43.tinypic.com/35hjqti.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/34j4x0w.jpg)
I have about as much clearance between shock and swingarm as you do. It has not been an issue and there is no evidence of the spring rubbing against the swingarm. I took pictures for you to see, it's been about 2000 miles.
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/936/smlu23r6shock26dec2011.jpg)
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3804/smlu24r6shock26dec2011.jpg)
Just to keep all this with the R6 shock thread;
I know this was widely assumed here but though I would add it anyway. I had asked Yamaha when I ordered my install parts about the difference in shock colour from year to year...they told me that the colour had nothing to do with performance and everything to do with the year of the bike and specifically the paint scheme colour of the bike. I was told that functionally the shocks are identical, they changed the piggy back in late 07 but other than that they are all the same. And if you do decide you want to do this and can't find one with the dogbones attached or the price is MORE with them attached...I paid $9.83 for the bolt, sleeve, washer and nut brand new from Yamaha. So take that math into consideration when buying...and for ~10 bucks you get spanky new parts :D
Some more handy information on this mod; (Taken from an 89-02 Haynes)
These are the torque settings for the shock mounting components.
Part A - Shock Absorber Lower Mounting Bolt = 40 to 60Nm
Part B - Linkage Rod Bolt (dog bones) = 70 to 100NM
Part C - Linkage Arm Bolt = 70 to 100NM
* 1 Lb-Ft = 1.35582 Nm
(http://i44.tinypic.com/35a8z5s.jpg)
Below is from member 'twocool' (Sourced from his: Suzuki shop manual up to 2009)
Rear shock..top and bottom bolt....
From the "chassis assembly section" 29.0 ~ 43.5 lb-ft (40 ~ 60 N-m)
But from the specific chart for 2004 model......43.5 lb-ft (60 N-m)
So it looks like they don't gave a "range" and want the high end of the torque setting....
BTW, when you do the suspension it's good to replace the lock nuts installed on the linkage. After a few uses, they wear out and will no longer resist coming loose the way you should.
Ummm wow. So we had an unusually warm day for these parts considering its January (it was sunny and +6c) so I got to test out the new shock. Un-be-lieveable!! With my progressives up front and now the R6 in the rear it is smooth and tight and I cant explain it but it feels even. Its INSTANTLY noticable and its great! Zero rubbing, and no grinding here either (I have about 2mm of clearance at the swing arm, it seems its settled in). What a fantastic upgrade. If you like your GS stock thats perfectly cool don't change a thing, but if you've ever wanted to get a sportier ride get this shock now. The fact that you can do this for ~50 bucks, about 45 min and some hand tools makes it even better!
Glamour shot :D
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/f6lu9.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/f6lu9)
question... i asked about getting one of these shocks at a scrap yard where i picked up my new donor engine. they asked me if i wanted the s or the r model.
so which model is this mod from the r6s or r6r?
The R6R is the model that everyone is using. But, it has been reported that the R6S (later years) uses a shock of identical size with the only difference being a smaller reservoir. So you should be able to use the R6S shock, it might even be easier to get in and out. But personally I like having the larger reservoir.
For what it's worth I think I came across a full box of brand new R6R shocks. I'm going to pick them up in a week or two if I can talk him down a bit further on the price and distribute them on the site cheaper then you can currently buy on e-bay.
Slack, are you sure that's correct? I looked on ebay and didn't see a single R6s shock that would fit. Problem with the R6s shock is that it has an eyebolt mount on each end. You need a proper 2006+ R6 shock to fit to the GS500; the one with a clevis at the bottom, and an eyebolt at the top.
Quote from: oz353 on January 28, 2012, 07:29:17 PM
question... i asked about getting one of these shocks at a scrap yard where i picked up my new donor engine. they asked me if i wanted the s or the r model.
so which model is this mod from the r6s or r6r?
As burning has said, make sure you get the one with the clevice mount on the bottom (which I also believe is the R6R given I spent months haunting ebay and such sourcing one since I specifically wanted silver and the newer/smaller resevoir) I always searched for R6/R6R. Also, when I ordered the bottom bolt, nut and sleve at Yamaha it was ordered for an R6R. The eyelet one will not work for obvious reasons (see above pics)
Quote from: burning1 on January 29, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
Slack, are you sure that's correct? I looked on ebay and didn't see a single R6s shock that would fit. Problem with the R6s shock is that it has an eyebolt mount on each end. You need a proper 2006+ R6 shock to fit to the GS500; the one with a clevis at the bottom, and an eyebolt at the top.
Are there two R6S models? The R6S I am referring to is 2006+ (it's the 2009+version). And someone in a post, can't remember who/where, said that they had looked at the 09+ shocks and they looked to mount the same as the 06-08, just have a smaller reservoir. This person hadn't actually mounted one, and I don't know of anyone who has. Why would you when you could get a larger reservoir on the 06-08? I haven't spent the time looking at R6S shocks though, I'm just repeating what I had read.
Got it. :)
Yamaha's naming conventions can be incredibly confusing sometimes. I think you may be confusing the R6S for the standard R6.
The short version, is that in 06 or so, Yamaha released a more mildly tuned version of the standard R6 called the R6S. It's based on the older 2004 R6 frame, with a few changes here and there to keep the costs down and the ergonomics more comfortable. Unfortunately, the R6S shock will not fit the GS500.
You need the 06+ R6 shock.
You're correct that the shock was changed in 08. I have both the newer and older shocks. I have not run the new one on my bike yet, but it appears that the fit is the same, but the reservoir design a little more compact. The spring rate is the same between the two bikes, and I presume the damping similar if not identical.
Quote from: burning1 on January 29, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
Got it. :)
Yamaha's naming conventions can be incredibly confusing sometimes. I think you may be confusing the R6S for the standard R6.
The short version, is that in 06 or so, Yamaha released a more mildly tuned version of the standard R6 called the R6S. It's based on the older 2004 R6 frame, with a few changes here and there to keep the costs down and the ergonomics more comfortable. Unfortunately, the R6S shock will not fit the GS500.
You need the 06+ R6 shock.
You're correct that the shock was changed in 08. I have both the newer and older shocks. I have not run the new one on my bike yet, but it appears that the fit is the same, but the reservoir design a little more compact. The spring rate is the same between the two bikes, and I presume the damping similar if not identical.
Just got done doing some research, realizing my mistake, and coming to correct it. That is exactly what happened. I also did some looking and saw that the R6S shock is the same size (40mm) and slightly stiffer then the R6R shock, but as you said the mounts are different.
Honestly... I don't understand how someone could throw hundreds of dollars at an exhaust or engine mod, and leave the suspension stock. Suspension is by far the weakest part of the GS, and a few simple mods can completely change the nature of the bike.
Debating on leaving the Fox racing shock on my 04 when i sell it. Then get a nice new R6 shock for the new 06.
The fox shock is nice and feels good, but is old and has been sitting for a few years. Its nice i can pick up a nearly new R6 shock on the cheaper side as well
What do you all think, buy a new R6 or keep using the old Fox Racing shock?
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on January 30, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
Debating on leaving the Fox racing shock on my 04 when i sell it. Then get a nice new R6 shock for the new 06.
The fox shock is nice and feels good, but is old and has been sitting for a few years. Its nice i can pick up a nearly new R6 shock on the cheaper side as well
What do you all think, buy a new R6 or keep using the old Fox Racing shock?
Keep and rebuild the fox racing.
Its unique.
It really depends on what kind of technology is in the Fox shock, but unless you're getting a really killer deal, I'd probably revert the bike and hang on to the fox part.
BTW... Is the fox shock remote or piggyback reservoir? I may be interested - I noticed that there may be some clearance issues between my RGV Swingarm and my R6 shock. I'm hoping an 09 shock rectifies it, but if the Fox Shock is remote res, it might be a good alternative.
Burning - sorry to change topic but I wanted to ask you something about adjustment for this shock given your racing/riding experience along with having this shock in your bike. Is there anyway to tell where the settings are already and where they should be without mucking things up? I assume the settings will have to take into consideration my weight and riding style, but I just want to be sure this thing is set right or atleast to a "normal" setting. As you can tell I know nothing about this stuff but am trying to learn. This video was kind of handy and the bike in it is an 09, so its literally the exact same shock I have in my bike now;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIazK4gGziA
I just get confused with the blue screw, the gold nut, and then the flat screw on the bottom...my collar adjustment is the same as the bike in the video, its at 4. Any advice greatly appreciated.
I'm waiting for a train at the moment. When I get a chance, I'll check the settings on the shock from my race bike (06 model,) take a look at the new shock (09 model,) and see if I can give you some rough numbers.
Dave Moss, the man in that video, is the guy who setup the shock I had on my race bike. I honestly never learned to adjust the suspension myself, since he's at all my race events, priced well, and incredibly talented. I can provide some general recommendations, but it may be worth doing some further reading.
You can record your current settings by slowly turning each adjuster to the full closed position, and counting how many clicks or turns it takes to get there. Use that as a baseline.
Thanks for getting back and thats very cool you have access to someone like the man in that video. It may be worth it for me to find someone in my area who knows about this stuff and do some research. I'll play around with it and see where its at anyway and then go from there. I suspect a good afternoon for me will be testing out each setting on a remote road to see what feels right/best.
Quote from: fraze11 on January 30, 2012, 03:55:50 PM
Is there anyway to tell where the settings are already and where they should be without mucking things up? I assume the settings will have to take into consideration my weight and riding style,
I just get confused with the blue screw, the gold nut, and then the flat screw on the bottom...my collar adjustment is the same as the bike in the video, its at 4. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Ok, so I'm not burning1 but maybe this will help? :D
The video explains exactly how to tell what your settings are, just max out the adjusters and record the turns/clicks. You can even print out that fancy form they mention at the end. Then return the adjusters the same amount of turns and that's your base setting.
Compression damping (the blue and gold guys up top) control how quickly/slowly the shock compresses when hitting a bump. Hi speed (gold) affects how it reacts to sudden, sharp edge bumps. Lo speed (blue) will adjust how it reacts to more gradual undulations in the road.
Rebound damping (the bottom screw) controls how quickly the shock extends or returns to it's normal position. If you hit a bump and the rear compresses then bounces back too suddenly, you have too much rebound damping.
Clockwise = harder
Counterclock = softer
As far as finding an empty road to test, I'd suggest your regular ol' ride. Take the bike out on the roads you normally ride. 3 or 4 rides should be enough to get an idea of what you like/don't
If it's too harsh over sharp bumps, take a couple clicks out of Hi speed adjuster, etc. Just remember to record the changes you make from your base setting (the ones you recorded on that fancy form you printed out :cool: )
Go for more rides and see if things improved or got worse, adjust accordingly, record your adjustments...... fun stuff! :cheers:
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FYI: When counting clicks, you should count from full tight, rather than full loose. There's often a lot of free play at the loose end of the adjuster, which results in an inaccurate count.
Sorry for the slow responses... In the middle of a major house project, and I've been doing a lot of 12+ hour days.
Flesh and Burning, thanks very much!! This is exactly what I was looking for ... with the info you provided above you filled in the missing gaps.
In addition to Flesh's info above, I found this to be a fantastic read on suspension setup and tuning; http://www.sportrider.com/suspension_settings/suspension_setup/146_0402_suspension_setup_guide/index.html
And Burning..I hear you...we did a complete kitchen reno and addition last summer and it was hell, but its worth it in the end :cheers:
Snatched a 2011 R6 shock with hardly any miles, big thanks to all that added info to this thread. Not a single question of mine went unanswered!!
(seller's photo)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll129/steezin_and_wheezin/r6shock.jpg)
Nice grab Steezin, that puppy looks brand new! Once you get it installed do yourself a favour and tune it ... you'll be suprised at what happens :)
Oh..and post some pics when you're done :D
for sure! was shooting to get one for ~50 shipped, ended up going a little over that but just by a bit
was willing to pay a bit more since the condition was better than any others i had seen. trying to convince the seller to toss in the knuckle and collars, but we'll see. going to try my local yama dealer if i can't get it. $5 bucks for a new collar, But 9.99 shipping :2guns:
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on February 06, 2012, 11:55:40 AM
for sure! was shooting to get one for ~50 shipped, ended up going a little over that but just by a bit
was willing to pay a bit more since the condition was better than any others i had seen. trying to convince the seller to toss in the knuckle and collars, but we'll see. going to try my local yama dealer if i can't get it. $5 bucks for a new collar, But 9.99 shipping :2guns:
Yeah, I paid a little more than what others had paid and for the same reasons as you, I wanted a newer one with low to no miles which I was lucky enough to get. But I have to say, I think the word is out on these because I popped on ebay and you cant get one of these now for under $60 bucks + shipping, the average price was about 70 bucks. I don't know if thats demand or inflation? Too bad you don't have a Yamaha dealer local (9 bucks shipping is robbery, these parts are SMALL) I just went to local dealer here and got the bottom mounting parts over the counter (which I recommend) putting in brand new opposed to used and worn. I'm actually excited for you...you have to post your opinions after your first ride!
saw that as well! not sure why but prices have definitely gone up a bit. maybe since its getting warmer and closer to riding season?
seller wouldn't part wit the sleeves or knuckle for cheap. so i'll be heading to a local yama dealer to get a brand new collar.
shock will be here this saturday, but i'm still not sure what gs i'll be keeping. so installation will have to wait a bit. i'll be sure to update after i get it on and put some miles on it
just trying to keep all the r6 shock info together for future tuning..
Quote from: fraze11 on February 20, 2012, 12:47:10 PM
This isn't *exactly* related to the front suspension...but I've been watching Dave Moss videos for about 2 weeks now and reading suspension information regulalry. I had NO idea how critical this stuff really was. I was always under the impression there was a "standard" setting, but even for street riding as Dave has said in his videos that there are critical differences to how a bike will handle based on rider weight and settings. I just didn't realize it was THAT serious, and started getting a little freaked out since changing the rear shock, I was affraid by doing so I had made the bike unstable. I have progressives up front so short of changing fork oil weight I'm limited there as far as adjustment goes. With my R6 in the rear I've spent several days trying to get it right as well as setting my sag. What seems to be feeling good for me at the moment is;
I have 27mm of sag (Dave recommends 28-35 as a starting point for street use) and my shock is set accordingly;
Low speed comp = 15 clicks
High speed comp = 2.5 turns out
Pre-load = setting 5 on the ramp
Rebound = 17 clicks
I'm 5'9 175lbs and the above seems to be ok. I get an "even" rebound when I push the bike down from the seat and the bars so it seems to be level. Interesting stuff...
As requested here is my video on my R6 install, I had to grind my swingarm but honestly its just a preference thing I rekkon you could get away with not doing it but its only a small nip tuck with the grinder so yeah. Hats off to codajastal for discovering the trick to installing the shock without moving the battery box out of the way that saved us a heap of time with all the trial fitting with the grinding and time on the movie showing the removal and installation of the battery box. I've yet gotta take it for a proper ride and test it out good n proper but thus far it does feel different from the stock shock so next few weeks will be fine tuning it all to suit my style and comfort.
http://youtu.be/a_0gnFaONfY (http://youtu.be/a_0gnFaONfY)
Quote from: slipperymongoose on March 31, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
As requested here is my video on my R6 install, I had to grind my swingarm but honestly its just a preference thing I rekkon you could get away with not doing it but its only a small nip tuck with the grinder so yeah. Hats off to codajastal for discovering the trick to installing the shock without moving the battery box out of the way that saved us a heap of time with all the trial fitting with the grinding and time on the movie showing the removal and installation of the battery box. I've yet gotta take it for a proper ride and test it out good n proper but thus far it does feel different from the stock shock so next few weeks will be fine tuning it all to suit my style and comfort.
http://youtu.be/a_0gnFaONfY (http://youtu.be/a_0gnFaONfY)
A 100% fantastic how-to video. Very well done sir!
Cheers no worries. :thumb:
Ok here is a question for all the R6 shock enthusiasts, ive jumped onto racetech's site and calcualted that I need a 10.129 kg/mm spring for optimal street use etc..... The stock spring rate is 9.8 kg/mm. im stuck in the middle of the two springs, there is the stock spring at 9.8, then there is the next spring at 10.7kg/mm. So my question is, for my commute/weekend fanger would it be better to go softer with the stock spring or upgrade to the harder than reccomended spring? What are your thoughts?
Use one of each (if you can buy them separately.)
From what I have read, for most people RaceTech/Lindemann and some other suspension companies prefer a stiffer shock than you might enjoy on the open road.
You're close enough that I probably wouldn't worry about replacing the spring, although race-tech does tend to recommend springs that are a little on the soft side,
firmer tends to be better for smooth roads, and softer better for rough pavement.
Really ~ I have noticed several people on the VFR boards complaining that RaceTech recommends a .95-1.5 front spring where they later had to dial back to a .85 to get a decent ride on the open (bumpy) road. Maybe this is not the case for the rear shock spring rate ?
Quote from: fraze11 on February 06, 2012, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on February 06, 2012, 11:55:40 AM
for sure! was shooting to get one for ~50 shipped, ended up going a little over that but just by a bit
was willing to pay a bit more since the condition was better than any others i had seen. trying to convince the seller to toss in the knuckle and collars, but we'll see. going to try my local yama dealer if i can't get it. $5 bucks for a new collar, But 9.99 shipping :2guns:
Yeah, I paid a little more than what others had paid and for the same reasons as you, I wanted a newer one with low to no miles which I was lucky enough to get. But I have to say, I think the word is out on these because I popped on ebay and you cant get one of these now for under $60 bucks + shipping, the average price was about 70 bucks. I don't know if thats demand or inflation? Too bad you don't have a Yamaha dealer local (9 bucks shipping is robbery, these parts are SMALL) I just went to local dealer here and got the bottom mounting parts over the counter (which I recommend) putting in brand new opposed to used and worn. I'm actually excited for you...you have to post your opinions after your first ride!
Just stumbled on this thread and was shocked at the prices people are paying for these now. A few years back you couldn't give those shocks away! When we did Adfalchius bike I think we payed $35 for 2 shipped. I may still have the second one somewhere in the shop, time to dig around a bit ;)
-Jessie
We would probably be surprised how many people read this board and never post, or just find specific info on here by google search.
It took me about 6 months to find a decent katana shock at a good price. I can probably thank the popularity of the r6 shock for that! :cheers:
hello every one....i have been watching and reading the info on this forum for some time now and have finally registered....i did the R6 rear shock conversion on the wife's 08 gs500f..added race tec front springs ...set up the sag..(properly)and holey *&%$%*....it's like riding a new bike, no more center stand drag, no more front end dive and bottoming but man does it ever corner well...thanks for all the tips..... :cheers:
Ed
Yes, the bike has a good frame and geometry, but the suspension is a weak point. Upgrade it, and the bike feels like it is on rails.
Hey there looking around ebay was wondering if the 08 09 10 11 YAMAHA R6 YZFR6 R6 R SHOCK OEM REAR SHOCK will work? it's pretty much the title given so I suppose it should work? Thanks
Sounds like it will work. An R6 shock will work, and R6S shock will not. Look for a clevis on the bottom, and an eyebolt on the top. If both the top and the bottom are the same, the shock will not fit.
Quote from: fraze11 on January 11, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
Ummm wow. So we had an unusually warm day for these parts considering its January (it was sunny and +6c) so I got to test out the new shock. Un-be-lieveable!! With my progressives up front and now the R6 in the rear it is smooth and tight and I cant explain it but it feels even. Its INSTANTLY noticable and its great! Zero rubbing, and no grinding here either (I have about 2mm of clearance at the swing arm, it seems its settled in). What a fantastic upgrade. If you like your GS stock thats perfectly cool don't change a thing, but if you've ever wanted to get a sportier ride get this shock now. The fact that you can do this for ~50 bucks, about 45 min and some hand tools makes it even better!
Glamour shot :D
(http://i42.tinypic.com/3499pua.jpg)
Fraze WHERE did you get that bad ass!!!!!!!!! couwling for over your rear wheel?!?!?!? that carbon fiber looks SUPER clean if you could open up a thread or on this thread show how you did it and what it is off of I would love it!!. Thanks man!
There is a "hugger" thread stickied here at the top of this section but they are no longer avail
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?board=2.0
Quote from: weedahoe on January 19, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
There is a "hugger" thread stickied here at the top of this section but they are no longer avail
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?board=2.0
Damn that sucks because that hugger looks sooo nice!
There are other huggers you can use such s the ones off of a Bandit
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Fraze WHERE did you get that bad ass!!!!!!!!! couwling for over your rear wheel?!?!?!? that carbon fiber looks SUPER clean if you could open up a thread or on this thread show how you did it and what it is off of I would love it!!. Thanks man!
I sold my GS a while ago (but still peek in here once and a while) I scored that from another Motorcycle Forum of all places back in 2012. I had been searching for a while since the original creator (Forum member Airbrush) wasn't making/selling them anymore. Keep searching Google and what not, you may get lucky like I did and one will pop up. Retro-fitting a bandit hugger as mentioned above is a decent alternative as well.
I dont know whether or not this question has been asked in this thread yet, but will these r6 shocks you all are talking about work for any year of gs500? Thanks everybodddddy!
Yes, AFAIK.
I was having a browse on ebay at shocks and noticed the ZX6R shock also has the clevis mount on the bottom. I was wondering if these would work in the GS as they are much cheaper and plentiful than the R6 shocks.
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff62/icecreamhands/T2eC16dzUE9s38qPWBQ2Lt5VFFQ60_3_zps8472cf2d.jpg)
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6110/rearshock2.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7096/7171411841_9afffd5b1e.jpg)
Also the SV1000 looks like it would fit.
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^^ I was wondering the same thing! I saw them and was thinking it might but like I said in my WTB thread my wife would kill me if i bought one and it doesnt work. Hell I'm lucky she let me get the bike, now I just need my own PayPal lol.
Toole
OK I did some more digging on the net. A SV650 shock can be made to fit the GS by cutting the clevis and redrilling. But the SV650 is not much better than the GS shock with it only being preload adjustable. (TY adidasguy for jogging my memory) I found this graph on the SV650 forums.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=COvG24gH&key=0AlotUijBbxpCdDFGenIwQjg2MTcwS2swVFF0TU5UX3c&authkey=COvG24gH#gid=1
What is the length of the GS shock?
Any word on the ZX shock? I've been loking and don't see anything my google fu is weak.
Toole
Quote from: Twisted on March 01, 2013, 12:58:01 AM
OK I did some more digging on the net. A SV650 shock can be made to fit the GS by cutting the clevis and redrilling. But the SV650 is not much better than the GS shock with it only being preload adjustable. (TY adidasguy for jogging my memory) I found this graph on the SV650 forums.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=COvG24gH&key=0AlotUijBbxpCdDFGenIwQjg2MTcwS2swVFF0TU5UX3c&authkey=COvG24gH#gid=1
What is the length of the GS shock?
The SV650 DOES NOT need to be cut. If you remember I had one installed on my Black GS before I bought the R6 shock.
I still have the SV650 shock in the Garage. Am contemplating putting it on the red GS as it gives a higher ride height.
Here is the uncut sv650 shock on the bike for proof
(http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-e.ak/hphotos-ak-ash4/401486_10150576284678596_1720799044_n.jpg)
I should have been more specific. It needs to be cut if you want the same ride height as the OEM GS shock.
http://www.gs500e.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=128201
That link might help us a bit. Not sure but maybe. DAMN being new at wrenching on a bike!!! >:(
Toole
Yeh doesn't look like they tried it.
Back when I was looking into upgrading my shock and searching for an R6 for the right price, I look at the zx shocks... a guy down the street from me has a zx 13 (not sure of the year), I looked at it on his bike and it looked quite a bit longer than the GS shock so I had dismissed it... but I didn't measure or anything or do anything objective with it... I just wanted to go with what I knew would work.
- Bboy
Clevis mount or not isn't enough. Shock length is also critically important, since a long shock will significantly jack up the height of the rear end, throw off the progression curve of the linkage, and make your geometry all wonky.
I've seen a few shock length charts on the net. There's not much that will fit besides the R6 shock.
Would you know the GS shock length off hand by any chance?
~300mm, if I recall correctly.
Hmmmm....makes the zx6r shock too long (340mm ). R6 shock is 291mm. Oh well least the info is here for the next person searching.
06 07 Yamaha R6 YZFR6 YZF Rear Shock Absorber Spring Suspension OEM
I read through this thread.. Super confused since I'm new at this lol. I ride an 07 GS500F. Would the shock listed above work? Thanks!
R6R or R6S? You need the R one. Basically the shock with the same mounting points as your stock shock. Watch the video in the tutorial thread.
Will do! Thanks :D
Going to be tuning my r6 shock here soon, anyone have any long term feedback on compression and rebound clicker settings?
I'll probably start with Fraze's old settings, but will more than likely have to make it a bit stiffer with my weight(195lbs fully geared up) and my .9 sonic springs up front.
Quote from: fraze11 on February 20, 2012, 12:47:10 PM
Sag = 27mm
Low speed comp = 15 clicks
High speed comp = 2.5 turns out
Pre-load = setting 5 on the ramp
Rebound = 17 clicks
For anyone considering this, it's the best upgrade I've done to the bike in a long time.
I have a 2007 F. The 2006/2007 R6 shock with a clevis worked fine without any alterations, as long as the R6 has all the bearings and bolts with it.
I'm 155lbs dry, so about 170lbs with full leather and gear. First test ride today, but found I had the best luck with
Preload at softest 1 setting on the ramp
Low speed comp = 12 clicks
High speed comp = 6 clicks, or 1.5 full turns out
Rebound = 13 clicks