I put a 45 in the back but still want some more torque since i never ride highways anyway. If anyone has any size down from the stock front sprocket, preferably 14 but ill take anything, shoot me a price shipped to st. louis MO 63123
13 tooth sprocket? Why not just look for one of these?
(http://www.ultimatech.net/Images/jpg/Parts%20Images/Sprockets/7-4tooth%20sprocket-Big.gif)
I am speaking (as usual) out of ignorance here but it seems to me that a 13 tooth sprocket would be hard on the motorcycle...either through increased vibration, wear on the chain... :dunno_black:
yea, no it wouldnt. not as long as the rider isnt a complete moron. Like i said i would rather have the 14, but id take a 13 if its cheap. i just wouldnt be able to ride much faster than what a stock bike rides in 3rd gear haha.
EDIT: Also, if someone has a 14 or 15, i can send you a $10 bike bandit gift card.
just for reference, I just removed my 47t rear chainring, and also have a 14t front. The bike topped out at 95mph, and at cruising speeds the rpms were roughly 1 lower than the mphs, meaning if I was going 50mph, it was revving at 6k rpm, if I was going 30mph, it was revving at 4k rpm. When I put the 39t back on the rear I dropped 1500rpm for any given cruising speed and was like gaining a whole gear+, plus at one random moment of speed I had on the highway I was up to 110(indicated) and still had a bit of rpms to go. It was cool for riding around city streets, but anything over 40mph was just not much fun anymore. It'd be cool if you really want to go fast on some back roads, but I'm more into taking it easy at this point.
Quote from: XealotX on May 09, 2010, 07:10:19 PM
I am speaking (as usual) out of ignorance here but it seems to me that a 13 tooth sprocket would be hard on the motorcycle...either through increased vibration, wear on the chain... :dunno_black:
Correct :thumb:
Search: "Chordal action chains"
good luck I had a 12 tooth front, and 42 rear for about a week. was running like 7500 rpms doin 55! have fun! are you wanting to stunt it or something? which would be cool, as everybody likes stunts!
Quote from: jeremy_nash on May 10, 2010, 07:38:59 AM
good luck I had a 12 tooth front, and 42 rear for about a week. was running like 7500 rpms doin 55! have fun! are you wanting to stunt it or something? which would be cool, as everybody likes stunts!
yep! :thumb: kinda, not actually go full blown stunt bike, i just want some power wheelies, and a like the torque gain from my 45 in back, but would like some more since like i said, i dont ride highways anyway
you are not going to power wheelie with the gs with a 14/45 setup. i have a 14/45 setup and other then a bit more torque its still a 500cc turd. you need to go alot bigger on the rear if you want to power wheelie.
with 12 and 42 I could power wheelie, but by the time it came up, it was time to shift, never got anywhere near the balance point
yeah, seriously when I had 14/47 I had to dump the clutch as hard as I could, and the bike still didn't really get to the balance point, just high enough for me to ride it a few seconds and have it fall back down. I know I know, "you're not doing it right!", but I was, because I used to do them all the time on my other bike, so I knew how to get a bike up and ride it out, but the GS just wasn't putting out. If you want to really play on it you're probably gonna have to put a foot on one of the passenger pegs to move your weight back.
Quote from: joshr08 on May 10, 2010, 04:02:11 PM
you are not going to power wheelie with the gs with a 14/45 setup. i have a 14/45 setup and other then a bit more torque its still a 500cc turd. you need to go alot bigger on the rear if you want to power wheelie.
um....turd.....what are you 12? if so you must be a really huge 12 year old to not be able to power wheelie a 14 45 setup. seeing as how im 18 and can power wheelie my 16-45 setup on occasion. soooo...... no i dont need a pizza pan in the back to do so. i weigh about 130 before you ask. and please, if anyone else wants to be a duck, go talk on another forum please
Quote from: tt_four on May 10, 2010, 08:08:05 PM
yeah, seriously when I had 14/47 I had to dump the clutch as hard as I could, and the bike still didn't really get to the balance point, just high enough for me to ride it a few seconds and have it fall back down. I know I know, "you're not doing it right!", but I was, because I used to do them all the time on my other bike, so I knew how to get a bike up and ride it out, but the GS just wasn't putting out. If you want to really play on it you're probably gonna have to put a foot on one of the passenger pegs to move your weight back.
yea, i do use the passenger pegs for standing wheelies, and im able to power up sometimes if i hit it just right and ride out in my balance point, but i can clutch up okay sitting down. just harder to hit the balance point. and ive learned when to shift to 2nd once im balanced, but its tough, thats why im lookin for a smaller front sprocket. im just thinkin, if im able to sometimes power up with a 16-45, then i should for sure be able to power up everytime with a 14-45, and make my cluctch up, sit downs, much easier.
Quote from: gregvhen on May 10, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
um....turd.....what are you 12? if so you must be a really huge 12 year old to not be able to power wheelie a 14 45 setup. seeing as how im 18 and can power wheelie my 16-45 setup on occasion. soooo...... no i dont need a pizza pan in the back to do so. i weigh about 130 before you ask. and please, if anyone else wants to be a duck, go talk on another forum please
I do not understand the source of your irritation. What do you define a "power wheelie" as? I've seen 600CC Kawasaki Ninja's doing 70mph down the interstate and pulling wheelies at that speed...that would be my definition of a power wheelie. I don't think there is any gearing setup in the world that will make a GS5 do the same thing.
a power wheelie is just when you get into a wheelie without using the clutch. this is basically impossible for a GS or even ninja 600 to do at 70 mph, but 1,000's can do em pretty easily and 70+ mph
yall thought i was crazy for wanting a 13? haha well i just ordered a 12 off ebay. 8 bucks, so i had to. ill just change out sprockets when i want to wheelie and when i want to cruise. ill post pics in a new thread when it comes in.
Ahhh, it's okay for you to be a smarta$$ in other people's threads but can't handle it when other's reciprocate. Typical teenager.
Did you look up Chordal action and see what effect reducing the number of teeth on the sprocket has??
Ask your teacher about it and what effect it will have on your chain :D
http://chain-guide.com/basics/2-2-1-chordal-action.html
Quote from: sledge on May 11, 2010, 01:27:01 AM
Did you look up Chordal action and see what effect reducing the number of teeth on the sprocket has??
Ask your teacher about it and what effect it will have on your chain :D
http://chain-guide.com/basics/2-2-1-chordal-action.html
nice read :thumb:
Haha, aside from changing sprockets when you want to wheelie, do you have another GS you swap out when you want a bike that isn't going to self distruct?? I love wheelies and goofing around, but the GS doesn't really have the goods to handle it. Even if you changing the gearing you're gonna destroy the cheap components inside that engine.
I would personally consider a "power wheelie" to be one where you do nothing but twist the throttle and have the front end come up. Definitely no clutch, and I don't really consider standing up to bounce the bike a "power" wheelie, it's questionable whether it still counts as one if you're accelerating, let off the throttle to compress the forks and twist the throttle again, since you're not using power and the springs on your fork. As far as a ninja 600 doing them at 70mph. Probably not if you're still sitting down and not using the clutch, but I could get my Triumph speed four to stand up with no clutch at 90mph, so a ninja would definitely stand up at 70. I had to stand up to get it to do it, but still, had a bit less power than other 600s that came out in 2003 when my bike did. I wouldn't be surprised if a current 600 could lift the front wheel in 2nd with the rider sitting down and not using the clutch, but I've never tried it, so I can't say.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on May 10, 2010, 10:51:03 PM
Ahhh, it's okay for you to be a smarta$$ in other people's threads but can't handle it when other's reciprocate. Typical teenager.
please, show me where i was a smart a$$ in another thread, so i can appoligize, cause right now i really dont know when i made a smartas$ comment.
Quote from: tt_four on May 11, 2010, 07:36:04 AM
I would personally consider a "power wheelie" to be one where you do nothing but twist the throttle and have the front end come up. Definitely no clutch, and I don't really consider standing up to bounce the bike a "power" wheelie, it's questionable whether it still counts as one if you're accelerating, let off the throttle to compress the forks and twist the throttle again, since you're not using power and the springs on your fork. As far as a ninja 600 doing them at 70mph. Probably not if you're still sitting down and not using the clutch, but I could get my Triumph speed four to stand up with no clutch at 90mph, so a ninja would definitely stand up at 70. I had to stand up to get it to do it, but still, had a bit less power than other 600s that came out in 2003 when my bike did. I wouldn't be surprised if a current 600 could lift the front wheel in 2nd with the rider sitting down and not using the clutch, but I've never tried it, so I can't say.
right thats what i said, power wheelie is no clutch, and i never said i use the forks to help me bounce up either. and the ninja 600 doin 70 wheelies, yea i agree, theres no way your gonna just power in while sitting at 70, but you could clutch in and ride it out, or stnad on the passenger pegs and maybe get it with a newer 600, i was just trying to help describe what a "power wheelie" is cause he was thinking its just a really fast wheelie. my friend has a 89 (yea, that old) ninja 600 and he can power up in 1st and 2nd, but theres no way he'll power up at 70, thats what i was baseing my statement off of, and i know newer bikes will make it easier, but a 600 still wont put you up at 70 while sitting
its OK his comments just show his ignorance. the guy on youtube that stunts a gs is running a 13/50 something if i remember right and i could sware that he has said he still has to clutch it up if running much over an idle so. now i guess ill take my huge 12 yr old turd backside off to another thread. let me know how your power wheelies work when you get up from your nap and have your morning bottle and get burped. :thumb:
Quote from: gregvhen on May 11, 2010, 10:47:16 PM
right thats what i said, power wheelie is no clutch, and i never said i use the forks to help me bounce up either. and the ninja 600 doin 70 wheelies, yea i agree, theres no way your gonna just power in while sitting at 70,
Yeah I knew you weren't talking about clutch, but I'm never sure if people are talking about just twisting the throttle, or twisting, letting off to compress the forks and twisting it again, and apperantly some people still consider it a power wheelie when they're standing up and bounce the bike if they don't use the clutch.
An older 600 definitely won't pick the wheel up at 70 without the clutch when you're sitting down, but I think you could convince a newer (2003/2004+) bike to do it if you knew what you were doing. My triumph felt like it wanted to, but would never get the wheel more than an inch or two off the ground, and that was 97hp, newer 600s are putting out way more power than that now.
so the 12 tooth came in and the inside hole is too small so im not using that. i think its spose to be for a dirt bike but hey, 8 bucks it was worth a try. so im ordering a 14 from bikebandit tonight.
I'll sell you the 14t off my '93, if you want. Shipping will be faster than Bike Bandit's typical 2 weeks (for me).
PM me, if you want it.
Nevermind, you can't have it. I've decided that I don't like you.
Your teenage hormones + my sprocket = a serious accident that I don't want on my conscience.
By the way, I'll take that apology:
Quote from: gregvhen on May 11, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
please, show me where i was a smart a$$ in another thread, so i can appoligize, cause right now i really dont know when i made a smartas$ comment.
My favorite:
Quote from: gregvhen on April 21, 2010, 08:37:50 AM
Quote from: lamahug on April 20, 2010, 04:55:51 PM
But I love my GS! YEAH! Everyone, give your GS a big hug.... :D
I dont mean to be rude, but are you ghey?
From this very thread:
Quote from: gregvhen on May 10, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
um....turd.....what are you 12?..... and please, if anyone else wants to be a duck, go talk on another forum please
Quote from: gregvhen on May 13, 2010, 10:38:33 PM
hahaha, yea the almost fully stock gs500 was a real head turner hahah
Quote from: gregvhen on May 13, 2010, 10:36:12 PM
okay you realize that car is not a chevy right? so why would you say nice? :cookoo: :dunno_black:
Quote from: gregvhen on January 28, 2010, 03:11:58 PM
your spose to clean and lube your chaing?
Quote from: gregvhen on May 14, 2010, 01:23:55 PM
so the 12 tooth came in and the inside hole is too small so im not using that.
Errrrrr......you didnt check the spline pattern?.......Never Mind perhaps you could hammer it on :thumb:
Quote from: gregvhen on May 07, 2010, 10:19:32 AM
it doesnt matter how many aftermarket stickers you put on it, its still a GS500F haha
Had nothing to do with what I posted.
Quote from: sledge on May 14, 2010, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: gregvhen on May 14, 2010, 01:23:55 PM
so the 12 tooth came in and the inside hole is too small so im not using that.
Errrrrr......you didnt check the spline pattern?.......Never Mind perhaps you could hammer it on :thumb:
no that was the weird thing, same amount of slpines, just smaller size.
and homer all those comments were not duck comments. none of them were mean at all. the "um....turd....." one was the only mean one and was cause he called me a turd. im not one to pick fights on the internet
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that funny cuz i called the gs500 a turd not you shows your age. if something is slow or crappy its a POS and whats a pos a turd :thumb:
That would have required inference Josh.
Quote from: joshr08 on May 19, 2010, 02:10:02 AM
that funny cuz i called the gs500 a turd not you shows your age. if something is slow or crappy its a POS and whats a pos a turd :thumb:
I appoligize then, the way i read it, i thought you were calling me a turd for wanting to wheelie. My mistake
P.S. 14 tooth came into today. ill let you all know how it rides if sunlight ever shows itself in St. louis for more than an hour or two. been raining on and off for a while now.