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Title: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
What's an 07' GS500 worth with a blown engine? Bike has 12k miles on it, Delkevic pipe, and some other after market stuff. Good tires.

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Title: Re: Value
Post by: Iroquois on May 20, 2010, 09:38:05 AM
Blown as in how? Are there any recoverable parts from the engine that could be sold?

I would say roughly $700-$800.  :dunno_black:
Title: Re: Value
Post by: tt_four on May 20, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
hmm.... $1k?  I don't think it's worth anywhere near enough to be worth selling it like it is instead of buying a used motor for $500 and sticking it in. Chances of finding a motor as new as '07 are slim, but you could find another with around $12k. You can find good condition GSFs for $2000-2500, and you definitely can't evenly subtract the cost of parts for something as big as a motor replacement.

Did you ever figure out what was wrong with it? Even with aftermarket parts, someone looking to buy would probably assume it was abused/poorly maintaned, so aftermarket parts aren't going to do much for you, unless someone is buying it specifically to part it out. You might be able to squeeze enough out of it for a downpayment and taxes/fees on a gsxr if that's why you're getting at.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: cboling on May 20, 2010, 09:42:11 AM
If you part it out, I want your tank. Pleeeeeeaaaaaasssee!
Title: Re: Value
Post by: saxman on May 20, 2010, 10:04:42 AM
Where are you located?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 10:05:28 AM
Northeast Georgia
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 10:08:06 AM
I'd rather buy a used engine if I can. I really love this bike   :embarassed:
Title: Re: Value
Post by: The Buddha on May 20, 2010, 10:28:24 AM
I have a 93 motor I could sell ... out of this bike I have. How's 400 bucks and you come and we'll pull it and take with you.
I may be able to get it to where you can see it run. 6K miles.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 10:59:36 AM
A 93 will work in an 07? Where r u located?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: tt_four on May 20, 2010, 12:12:06 PM
It should work, you would just lose the oil cooler.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: sledge on May 20, 2010, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
What's an 07' GS500 worth with a blown engine?
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As a whole bike it worth whatever someone will pay for it  :dunno_black: but you will get more for it by parting it out.

You may as well pull it apart and find out what the problem is. If theres no damage to the journals/housings/cylinders etc and its just the bearings it would probably be worth repairing given its age. If not you can sell the head, carbs, starter, clutch, gbox parts, cylinders and pots, side covers, alternator, flywheel, cam chain and tensioner, oil pressue and neutral switch, ignition pick-up.......offload that lot and you would be halfway towards a decent used engine from an insurance write-off.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 02:28:00 PM
Thanks for the info. Insurance write-off? What do you mean by that?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: O.C.D. on May 20, 2010, 03:32:52 PM
He means a bike that was totaled but the engine is still good, thus a write off for the insurance company.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 04:53:32 PM
If I were to part this puppy out, how much $$$ do you think I may be able to get in all after all is said and done?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: pandymai on May 20, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
to part out the motor you'll have to strip it apart anyways. so you might as well start there. in the process of tearing it down, you'll find out what's wrong with it as well. check out the for sale section and see what prices you see others selling their parts for.
personally, i agree with others in that you should strip the motor anyways to see what's wrong first and see if it can be repaired before jumping the gun and buying another motor.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 20, 2010, 04:59:00 PM
 :dunno_black: I'm impulsive and don't have an ounce of patience!   :dunno_black:
Title: Re: Value
Post by: tt_four on May 21, 2010, 04:56:46 AM
Haha, then put it on craigslist for $2k and see what kind offers you get.
Title: E series motor in F series bike
Post by: birdhandler on May 21, 2010, 07:28:45 PM
I think you could swap over the sump cover and still be able to use your oil cooler
Good Luck
Cheers
Title: Re: Value
Post by: Trwhouse on May 22, 2010, 07:41:28 AM
You still haven't told us what happened to ruin the engine.

A bike that has a dead engine is worth little, regardless of its age. In this case, finding a late model engine to install will be tough. There aren't a lot of them around.

So you can either part it out and get what you can or fix this engine.

Did you run it low on oil?

What did you do, man?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 22, 2010, 07:47:59 AM
Yeah, I ran it low on oil...2 and a half quarts low. I know...I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jeremy_nash on May 22, 2010, 01:52:14 PM
damn, thats an expensive mistake.  did you think the light labeled oil was supposed to be on?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 22, 2010, 02:01:47 PM
Light never came on.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jeremy_nash on May 22, 2010, 02:10:11 PM
oh, I make it a point to periodically check the safety lights on vehicles not equipped with gauges.  to check, turn ignition on without starting, oil light should be on.  remember that for the future  :thumb:


if it were me, I would buy a cheap gs, and swap the motor over to yours, then you can sell the rest of the parts to help offset the cost  :thumb:
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 22, 2010, 02:50:53 PM
Crazy thing is light would come on before I'd crank it, but it never came on while running...

You're recommendation is what I'm thinking about doing...If I can find one. I can't spend a whole lot. I started breaking the bike down today and should have the engine removed tomorrow. MAYBE I'll break into the engine.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: sledge on May 22, 2010, 03:25:29 PM
The fact the "red light of death" didnt come on is a good sign. It says the engine didnt see a drastic drop in oil pressure which in turn suggests any damage may be relatively light.

Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 22, 2010, 03:53:53 PM
May be true but I was 2 1/2 quarts low!
Title: Re: Value
Post by: the mole on May 22, 2010, 04:50:25 PM
The thing about oil lights is that they only come on when the pressure gets very low, else they'd be on whenever the motor is idling and riders would be panicking. So if the light comes on in normal riding, its not to warn you that damage might be caused, its to tell you the motor is now a boat anchor.
Its quite possible for the pressure to be low enough to cause damage but just high enough to keep the light from coming on.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: jonathanneely on May 22, 2010, 05:40:08 PM
So then why have oil pressure lights to begin with if that's the case?
Title: Re: Value
Post by: tt_four on May 22, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
My light doesn't come on when I turn the ignition on, never knew it was supposed to. Is that all of them, or just the newer ones? Mine's a 91. I'll just keep an eye on the oil.

I hurt the engine on my last bike pretty bad from running low on oil. It was a newer bike, it sprung a pretty bad oil leak, but the dealership couldn't get to it for a week or two. I'd had a bad history with them and only scheduled appointments to get my bike worked on so I new they were actually going to do it, so I had to keep riding it in the mean time. I just kept pouring oil into it constantly, but it eventually started making a noise, and I got about $3k worth of an engine rebuild done between parts and labor thanks to my warranty.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: the mole on May 22, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
Quote from: jonathanneely on May 22, 2010, 05:40:08 PM
So then why have oil pressure lights to begin with if that's the case?
That's a good question. Pretty much the same applies to temp warning lights in your car. If it starts to boil and you don't see the steam, the temp stays around 100 degrees Celcius as the coolant boils off, this is only a little above the normal mark on a gauge and probably not enough to turn the light on. The boiling coolant holds the temp down, but once most of the coolant has boiled off the temp spikes and the light comes on to tell you the motor is f.....d.
Oil and coolant level warnings are more useful, but 10% more expensive for manufacturers to fit.
Title: Re: Value
Post by: 007brendan on May 22, 2010, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: tt_four on May 22, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
My light doesn't come on when I turn the ignition on, never knew it was supposed to. Is that all of them, or just the newer ones? Mine's a 91. I'll just keep an eye on the oil.


That's standard operating procedure for all vehicles actually.  Next time you get in a car and turn it on, take a look at the dash.  All the warning lights should light up for a second.