Im debating getting an exhaust thinking if its really worth the money. I know it will sound better but....I wonder how the stock exhaust sounds around 6,000 RPM its very hard to tell riding your own bike on how it sounds at high rpm. Do you guys think spending money on an exhaust is worth it or does the stock sound decent?
Aftermarket. That is all!
stock is weak, sounds like a sewing machine and is restrictive ass hell. get a jardine full system, its the best. period.
if your doing it for power, just buy some diet pills, that will be more productive. if you want it to sound more aggressive, then by all means, pipe it! keep in mind that you will need to rejet the carbs to keep from running lean
what about a yosh slip on?? do i need to rejet with that? and can i install a slip on myself?
Quote from: kbark519 on June 07, 2010, 07:46:34 PM
Im debating getting an exhaust thinking if its really worth the money. I know it will sound better but....I wonder how the stock exhaust sounds around 6,000 RPM its very hard to tell riding your own bike on how it sounds at high rpm. Do you guys think spending money on an exhaust is worth it or does the stock sound decnt?
An aftermarket system gives your bike all kinds of growl but maybe 2 more HP. That's until you up the jets and get a racing air filter. Then you'll be up about 4-5 HP but you'll be out about several hundred bucks and about 8 mpg. The best pipes for this bike are Yoshimura but they stopped making them about 15 years ago. Vance & Hines and Jardine are the only ones I know of that remain. V&H pipes are considerably cheaper but the black paint they use is crap. Other than that they're fine. I learned that by doing it! I left the stock air filter and jets in. It can't run too lean if the stock air filter doesn't let any more air in. You can't exhale more than you can inhale, can you? ;)
If you want best performance now or someday get a system with equal length pipes, meaning you'll have to drop the system from the engine to change the oil filter. If the system allows oil filter changing without taking it off it's not a high performance system.
Quote from: kbark519 on June 07, 2010, 08:34:18 PM
what about a yosh slip on?? do i need to rejet with that? and can i install a slip on myself?
Rejetting is what gets you more fuel, which gets you more power, which makes it suck more air, which makes it sound badass (well, less like a sewing machine). There's no point to an exhaust if you're not going to do a rejet and lunchbox. You should rejet even with stock exhaust.
I wish my bike had the stock exhaust on it. I think the vance and hines on it now is obnoxious. If that's your thing then go for it.
I've seen one or two other new pipes for sale that looked pretty decent, I can't remember who made them though.
A slip on is more expensive and harder to install than a full system. the Jardine full system is $380 and takes 30min to install and requires only hand tools. a slip on requires cutting and welding (the stock system is one huge peice) and costs more (usually) and doesnt flow as well as a full system.
I feel my V&H with lunchbox sounds amazing! You can hear it faintly even when up to 8k at freeway speeds! Besides that it sounds great around town as well. If a car can't see you they sure will hear you. :thumb:
I agree, if you're considering a new slip-on vs. a new full system, get the full system, it will be cheaper and easier. But if you're willing to look around, and are willing to buy a used slip-on, you could do it for a good deal less than a complete system. There's a WileyCo on the For Sale Forum for $50. You could cut your old exhaust off and have the WileyCo welded on by a shop for $30-50.
You could look for a used full system, but there's really only 2 -- the V&H and the Jardine -- and they only pop-up occasionally on the for sale forum. On the other hand, a slip-on for almost any other bike with a similar sized exhaust will work on the GS500, and you can find those all over the place.
Full SS Laser Deeptone!
Hey TT I'll trade ya!
Was worth a shot right?
Mary
I love the V&H sound! It may only be a 500, but with the V&H full it is a mean sounding bike. Just this morning I was thinking about how others around me are definitely aware when I am near.
I cannot attest to any other exhaust so I cannot say the V&H is the best.
Wow a full system only takes a short time i thought with a full system there was welding and with a slip on there wasnt? anyways i have no idea on rejetting a bike should i have a shop do it for me afterwards how much do you think that will cost? i dont want to try and touch something i have no idea what im doing.
A full system means a full system usually held together with exhaust springs - no welding.
Learn to rejet. Learn carbs. I am no expert but I took mine apart and cleaned it and rejetted and they work fine. It is a mental hurdle with carbs. Yes you have a lot of possible issues that can go wrong but that is if you take it apart hastily or improperly. Do one side at a time and learn how they work. The floats hide the mains, the needles come out easily, the o-rings are a snap. Just try it!
hate loud bikes.
Quote from: romulux on June 08, 2010, 09:25:02 AM
hate loud bikes.
Don't come near my street when the "liter-boys" run around. I absolutely love hearing them! Makes my little GS with sound like a hamster wheel. But then again they are revving around 13 grand when they go by.
I wonder if i were to get the yoshi slip on pipe with the silencer, i wonder how loud that would be im guessing it would be fine with a silencer for ma inspections and all that cant be too loud.
does the silencer quite the exhaust down alot?
Quote from: kbark519 on June 08, 2010, 08:23:39 AM
Wow a full system only takes a short time i thought with a full system there was welding and with a slip on there wasnt? anyways i have no idea on rejetting a bike should i have a shop do it for me afterwards how much do you think that will cost? i dont want to try and touch something i have no idea what im doing.
Buy the Clymer Service Manual, it's ony ~$30 and it has step by step instructions on how to take apart and reassemble the entire bike.
Buy a jet kit from Buddha, $25 last time I checked.
Buy a K&N lunchbox, ~$30-40 http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RU-2970
Search the forums. There's tons of information on people doing exactly what you want to do.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on June 08, 2010, 08:12:20 AM
Hey TT I'll trade ya!
Was worth a shot right?
Mary
I'd be up for it if I didn't live in a completely different corner of the country from you, plus I don't have the intention of keeping the bike around all that much longer anyway, so I'm not too worried about it anymore to want to change anything major.
Quote from: black and silver twin on June 08, 2010, 09:42:27 AM
Quote from: romulux on June 08, 2010, 09:25:02 AM
hate loud bikes.
LOVE loud bikes
It's not specifically the loud bikes I hate, but the asshats that usually have them in the city. You never see people with loud exhausts just cruising around nicely. They're always the same goons who leave every redlight at WOT and can't stop revving their engines at redlights. To me it's really just more of an indicator towards the chunk of riders that give everyone on motorcycles a bad reputation.
You would also be doing yourself a favor if you spent your time learning traffic patterns in indicators of what a car is about to do, instead of earning money for a louder exhaust, not to mention just paying attention to the cars around you instead of expecting them to pay attention to you. If I can ride a bicycle all around this city and not get run over without so much as a horn, I don't understand why people assume they're going to die without a loud exhaust. Either way $200-300 makes a ridiculously expensive horn. You could go to pepboys and pick up a $20-30 air horn that would be way more effective.
QuoteYou could go to pepboys and pick up a $20-30 air horn that would be way more effective.
I have been thinking about this for a while now, sounds awesome.
Quote from: tt_four on June 09, 2010, 10:48:47 AM
If I can ride a bicycle all around this city and not get run over without so much as a horn...
Oh man, and people think motorcycles are dangerous! Riding a bicycle on the roads in America is not something I'm brave enough to do.
Talk about scary.
went to the shop today and asked about a slip on the mechanic says yosh's slip on is a bolt on no need to cut anything is this true. im sorry to keep bothering everyone but i get mixed vibes when im new too something any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks by the way I have an 09 GS500F.
Quote from: kbark519 on June 09, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
went to the shop today and asked about a slip on the mechanic says yosh's slip on is a bolt on no need to cut anything is this true. im sorry to keep bothering everyone but i get mixed vibes when im new too something any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks by the way I have an 09 GS500F.
No the stock exhaust is definately welded together front to back, Mine is standing (literaly) in my closet. its one piece
I concurr. There will definetly be some cutting needed to run a "slip on". I had the pleasure of letting werase643 install my yosh 'busa pipe a few weeks ago and I couldn't be happier. He cut it in half for me , tacked it up, and voila!~ Beautiful exhaust note and all.
Yea we have state inspections here in MA so i dont think I will be doing that incase i need to put m,y stock muffler back on and a full system would take to much work to put on and off for inspections
ill prob keep it stock thanks everyone for your help I appreciate it.
I just gutted my stock exhaust. I drilled it first, then drilled it some more, then completely removed the baffles :thumb:. I liked the sound, and nearly every one else did too. Most thought it was an aftermarket can. Sounded good imho. Oh, and the best part? FREE!
Quote from: bill14224 on June 07, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
It can't run too lean if the stock air filter doesn't let any more air in. You can't exhale more than you can inhale, can you? ;)
That assumes your air filter was not able to flow more air. My understanding is the stock exhaust can is the real bottle neck in the system and the limiting factor in moving air into and out of the engine. Once the exhaust side is opened up with a freer flowing can, the stock air filter can flow more air which leads to a lean condition. Add that to the fact that these bikes are jetted lean from the factory and you are probably running fairly lean if you don't rejet after changing the exhaust. The best indicator would be the condition of the spark plugs.
-Jessie
i cut my stock exhaust to put the slip on on. If i need to put the stock muffler back on can i or do i have to reweld? MA is very strict with inspections.
thanks guys (If i have to reweld it on its not worth it then)