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Title: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 21, 2010, 11:47:14 AM
I has question again. 

When they assembly a new bike at the dealership (when they take it out of the crate), how much is there to do?
I assume:  mirrors, windshield, fluids.
But, what else? 

The reason I ask?  My front tire is on backwards. 

I've also taken it back for a cracked fairing and mangled taillight housing. 
Both cases were blamed on "heavy-handed factory workers".  But a tire?  Really? 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: werase643 on June 21, 2010, 02:55:23 PM
it's funny that people will accept poor quality control on a new vehicle
but will walk away from a used vehicle with a scratch
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: romulux on June 21, 2010, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 21, 2010, 11:47:14 AM
I has question again. 

When they assembly a new bike at the dealership (when they take it out of the crate), how much is there to do?
I assume:  mirrors, windshield, fluids.
But, what else? 

The reason I ask?  My front tire is on backwards. 

I've also taken it back for a cracked fairing and mangled taillight housing. 
Both cases were blamed on "heavy-handed factory workers".  But a tire?  Really? 

really backwards or the tread is backwards?
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: sledge on June 21, 2010, 03:01:31 PM
Someone in the plant has put or allowed the boot to go on arse about tit. Guess its gonna happen once in a while when the individuals concerned are faced with a mind-numbing repetative task that bores their fun bags off day in day out. Stands to reason they are going to start running on auto-pilot and drop the occasional bollock while fantisizing about knobbing the girl who works in the canteen.

Lets get all Zen/glass half full/empty for a minute. If this happens on average say once every 1000 hits but instead of you being the victim of a balls up you were the winner of a lottery/draw/raffle on the same odds you would be grinning from arsehole to breakfast......c`est la vie.

They have put it right, appologised and begged for redemption, not much else they can do and its doubtful you will get anything else on top........learn to live with it my friend and be at piece with the world.

Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 22, 2010, 09:24:33 AM
Ken, stop being jealous. 

That's good zen.  I've been trying to keep that outlook. 
But, it's not just the tire, it's the entire wheel. 

Maybe my bike is supposed to hover?   :dunno_black:
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: the mole on June 22, 2010, 12:51:43 PM
Some say he has achieved enlightenment through daily meditation. Others say he is just crosseyed from too much masturbation.
All we know is, he's called "The Sledge".

Homer.
I assume we're talking about a GS? If so, is the disc on the opposite side to the caliper?  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: pandymai on June 22, 2010, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: the mole on June 22, 2010, 12:51:43 PM
Homer.
I assume we're talking about a GS? If so, is the disc on the opposite side to the caliper?  :icon_eek:

he sold his gs. he's actually talking about his new kawi versys..
and that IS pretty irritating to get something new and find random things like that.
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: burning1 on June 22, 2010, 01:40:20 PM
A motorcycle is usually crated without the wheels installed. Fluids, batteries, wheels, mirrors for sure. Often, the bike will be test-ridden.
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 22, 2010, 01:45:26 PM
Owner of the dealership confirms it's not a hover bike.  
Or a disguised transformer.  
I'm still waiting for the broken fairing and taillight they were supposed to order last week. 
They also say the 600-mile recommended first service is bunk.  

Sport Cycles of Rockingham, NC. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: mister on June 23, 2010, 03:26:24 AM
Quote from: Homer on June 22, 2010, 01:45:26 PM

They also say the 600-mile recommended first service is bunk.  


And pretend you go with what They say. And do your fist service at the 4k mark. And maybe at 10K or 12K the bike develops an Issue. An issue that Normally would be covered under warranty. But looky look, you didn't do the 1st service - as recommended by the manufacturer. So you kiss you warranty goodbye. And you say, "Hey, but they said" and they say "No we didn't, we told him it must be done". You don't have it in writing from them, so no proof.

Ask them to put it in writing that the first 600mile service is not necessary so you can keep it with your warranty log book. See if they will do that. Somehow I doubt it.

Granted, services is a great way for a bike shop to make $$$ even if they are not selling bikes. So you'd think it would be in their interest to do it - unless it's supposed to be free in which case they won't want to do it.

Either way, I'd find a new shop to do your logbook servicing.

Michael
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: werase643 on June 23, 2010, 06:00:36 AM
Forsythe motorsports.....  Ricky (only)
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 23, 2010, 07:43:46 AM
Quote from: mister on June 23, 2010, 03:26:24 AM

And pretend you go with what They say.

I know that already.  geesh.
I'm documenting my experience.  There's nothing I can do about it at this point, but maybe it'll help someone about to buy.   :dunno_black:
It's better than being ignored on the Versys forum.  Those guys barely know how to change sprockets. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Syzygy on June 24, 2010, 12:52:49 PM
What's a sprocket?
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 24, 2010, 02:18:39 PM
What's a Ural?   :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Syzygy on June 24, 2010, 06:25:41 PM
Mine looks like this!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4701060625_8ace7d220a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Worm on June 24, 2010, 07:28:49 PM
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That looks like my FSE's bike! Pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: hambonee on June 24, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
Love those Urals! Father in law has one.

Great bike if not a bit crude made.  :D
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 24, 2010, 08:47:07 PM
I'd like to have one of those before I'm 50.  Probably never will. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Syzygy on June 24, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
It has its ups and downs.  I'm going from Los Angeles to Washington DC on it in August and I'm sure I'll have to do some roadside wrenching, but the payload is phenomenal, you go at a speed where you can really soak in the scenery and chicks dig it.  I promised myself that I would never use the sidecar for evil but now I'm head over heels for the first lady who had the gumption to climb in that thing from a bar.

Homer - I'm one of the younger Uralists out there but it's a good crowd.  Generally more conservative than I but they put up with me for the lulz I guess.

If anyone is actually interested in buying a Ural you have my support, for what it's worth.  The 2010s are relatively rocksolid (there was a bad shipment of rocker arms but the company got it taken care of reasonably well) and my '08 hasn't had anything happen that's disabled me, going on 15000 klicks (the odo reads in KMS!)

Mileage sucks
Top speed sucks

Friendships made are numerous and enriching
Chicks dig it.
You don't have to call giving a buddy a ride a 'homoboost.'

Peace,
Syzygy
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 24, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
Just heard that my great uncle sold his kick-start Harley. 
Diabeetus/old people tax or something.  So freaking mad about that. 

I just wanna take my dog with me.  Hardware store, groceries, junk like that.  Beat the bejezus out of it, then complain really loudly. 

Sounds like a fun trip.  I was just talking to my wife about doing the same, just a few hours ago.  Except in the opposite direction. 
From Raleigh, NC to Palo Verde Peninsula.
She won a vacation.  All expense paid, 5 days, 1 guest, on the company's dime. 
Sometime in October, if you wanna hang out.  Get a slushy or something. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: black and silver twin on June 24, 2010, 11:42:50 PM
there's a dude at my work who rides a ural, he rides all year long even in snow unless its too deep to move. the dang thing is two wheel drive! the wheel on the side car has a drive axle! he puts a bag of sand in it for traction, it freakin kills me.

My dad also rides his cb450 in the snow every now-and-again. he's 65. he wont take his goldwing 1800 in the snow though.
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 24, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
Yeah, that's something that bothers me.  The dang snow and ice. 
If it weren't for that, I'd sell my Blazer. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: black and silver twin on June 25, 2010, 12:01:02 AM
Dude, Homer, your avatar pic is interesting. What is it from? it's almost creepy, no offence, just curious.
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 25, 2010, 12:20:51 AM
Can't tell you.  Don't know you well enough. 

Does your buddy at work use special tires for snow/ice?  My area doesn't get enough to warrant studs. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: mister on June 25, 2010, 02:16:48 AM
It's a long nose mask. Maybe a plague mask. But it reminds me of Spy vs Spy.

Michael
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 25, 2010, 03:43:54 AM
Back to the subject at hand - my brand new bike with the bass ackwards wheel.  
Visited a little Mom-and-Pop yesterday, 2 hours drive from the dealership where I bought it.
They've heard of the same problems coming out of there.  
It's their modus operandi, apparently - large flow to afford the big, fancy showroom... little to no customer loyalty.  

Question is - how should I screw with them?  I'm too old to just throw rocks through the window.  Didn't buy through Ebay, can't leave feedback.  Too far for me to bug them daily/hourly.  
He didn't really like me asking if it's a hover bike or Transformer.  Not quite the d!ck move I'm looking for, though. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: mister on June 25, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Homer, is it the Wheel that's on backward or the tire? Seems when looking at the tread pattern and the direction of the wheel's rotation on a lot of bikes, the tire tread would pull water into the middle. Makes me wonder if the tire tread is designed that way or was put on backward. This seems quite common.

Michael
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 25, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
The whole wheel. 
For the first 200~300 miles, it felt like I had knobby tires between 30 and 50 mph.  Kept wondering what was up with it. 
It's already worn to that direction now.  Might as well keep it there. 
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Still waiting on the trim pieces they ham-fisted.  C'est la vie. 
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: manoj on June 27, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
after reading this thread checked my tires.....
and AVON roadriders is installed in wrong direction,its almost 60% worn out at 3000 miles
tire is developing about 3 inch width flat wear  at the center
If I reinstall in right direction would the tire wear accelerate

Manoj
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 27, 2010, 08:53:38 AM
60% in 3000 miles, on an Avon Roadrider?  
What are you riding on?  Lava rock?  A coral reef?

It's not gonna "accelerate".  Compound is compound.  
It will wear off the bevels that have developed, and SEEM like it's accelerating wear.  
That's the theory, anyway.  
Looks like your real-world experience is disproving it.  

Edit (before I'm blown off):
You know, thinking about it... it's gotta be the backwards siping causing more heat and letting it wear faster.  
Which is kinda cool - if you want to make your Avons sportier, just put the wheel on backwards.  

Just turn the wheel around like mine, you'll be all set.  Oh, wait, you don't have twin rotors.   :flipoff:  Lol, joking.  
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: manoj on June 27, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
I had been always wondering why the tire was wearing off so fast those Roadriders last at-least 10000 miles but had checked for everything else except tire orientation.
after about 100 miles straight 80mph...the tires do get pretty warm and have rode couple of times in rain did not really notice any difference

Manoj
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: Homer on June 27, 2010, 10:49:47 AM
Quote from: manoj on June 27, 2010, 10:40:54 AMin rain did not really notice any difference

Same here.  Just mediocre proof that siping isn't the deciding factor in rain traction. 
Decided if you're gonna just keep it as-is?
Title: Re: Crating assembly
Post by: manoj on June 27, 2010, 10:58:00 AM
think gonna ride as it is through summer,its not worth the service charge for getting the tire installed right

Manoj