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Title: This will be my next bike!
Post by: Yev on July 16, 2010, 05:59:45 AM
Electric and naked sexiness FTW!!
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/07/brammo-empulse-electric-parity.html
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: Deros514 on July 16, 2010, 06:44:19 AM
I'd like EVs to be more common but I'm not sold on the range yet. Battery technology isn't up to speed to make owning an EV worthwhile. The range isn't all that good, too variable with throttle use, long recharge times, and have you seen those things burn? When those battery packs have had enough they burn violently.
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 16, 2010, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: Deros514 on July 16, 2010, 06:44:19 AM
I'd like EVs to be more common but I'm not sold on the range yet. Battery technology isn't up to speed to make owning an EV worthwhile. The range isn't all that good, too variable with throttle use, long recharge times, and have you seen those things burn? When those battery packs have had enough they burn violently.
i do like EV's BUT ecologically are sound but teh batteries are toxic, and yes when they go they go HARD
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: PachmanP on July 16, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on July 16, 2010, 08:59:04 PM
...and yes when they go they go HARD

I go hard when I see that bike!  :flipoff:

The range would be a pain except for commuting, or other fixed distance trips. I'd be curious about range loss as the battery ages.
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 16, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
true lol. i wonder though if say you had this bike, left home, rode 20 miles, say to work, plugged in there, then home, and charged again, would hte battery eventually develop a memory? would be sweet of one could develop a generator which wouldnt be a HUGE drag on teh propulsion, so in essence it could run indefinately. im working on a concept for this, BUT stll a drag on teh propulsion. trying ideas as to getting around that issue
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 16, 2010, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: Yev on July 16, 2010, 05:59:45 AM
Electric and naked sexiness FTW!!
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/07/brammo-empulse-electric-parity.html
ive driven electric vehicles, and while visiting a large metro area last year, ( interviewed to drive a transit bus ( airport shuttle) found out you can get more range by not mashing the pedal down to take off. you stll get same speed but you dont rape the batteries though :thumb: 100 miles isnt bad at all
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 17, 2010, 12:03:15 AM
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2010/07/EMPULSE_Wired-660x439.jpg)
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: Cal Price on July 17, 2010, 05:40:40 AM
Yama, battery "memory" effect was a real pain at one time. The general trade oppinion is that it is a characteristic of Nickel-Cadmium cells which were probably the first mass market rechargables for hand-held devices like radios etc,. Nickel Metal hydride and Lithium-Iron cells have supposedly overcome and eliminated the effect. I think the jury may still be out on NimH but Li-on seems to deliver.
In my shipping company days i was heavily involved with this stuff, part of my duties was that of "Buyer" for radio and comms devices, over the tears this evolved into buyer for anything with rechargable batteries. back in the day when everything was NiCad I discovered that 90% of reported radio faults were actually battery issues, usually mismanagement. I believe that things are much better now with Li-oN.
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: tt_four on July 17, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
I saw that a couple days ago but was too lazy to post it here. I love the bike, I think it looks great. I love the idea of an electric bike, and hope the techonology goes well enough that I can buy one in 2 decades or so for a reasonable price. I'd love to ride something that quiet with a perfectly flat torque curve. They did a great job with the design too. It's the first electric bike that really looks good. I think it looks better that most bikes with combustion motors, and they did a good job of not trying to make it look like a futuristic space rocket.
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: mister on July 17, 2010, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: tt_four on July 17, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
I saw that a couple days ago but was too lazy to post it here. I love the bike, I think it looks great. I love the idea of an electric bike, and hope the techonology goes well enough that I can buy one in 2 decades or so for a reasonable price. I'd love to ride something that quiet with a perfectly flat torque curve. They did a great job with the design too. It's the first electric bike that really looks good. I think it looks better that most bikes with combustion motors, and they did a good job of not trying to make it look like a futuristic space rocket.

I just saw the movie "Knight and Day" and they had a Real small battery (AA size) which could power a small city and never need recharging. now THAT would be great in such a bike.

Otherwise, electric powered vehicles won't take off until they have Vastly improved range. A bike that can get 100 miles before needing a recharge is just a commuter in my books. Can't go on a weekend ride with it. And even if the gas stations became battery Exchange Stations a simple Swap And Go could take a lo-o-o-o-ong time make it unattractive to the rider who could spend more time changing batteries than riding.

With typical battery life, we'd also exchange an almost indestructible engine for a battery with a short shelf life leading to What To Do with the old batteries?

They may be Cleaner - to us - but I'd like to see an unbiased study and whether tha overall emissions are reduced by going electric - or - they are just emitted from the power station (out of sight out of mind) so we merely Think they're better when they are actually cause more pollutants to be released into the air. Unless we get our power from non-coal means.

Michael
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: frankieG on August 06, 2010, 06:52:35 PM
ghey
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on August 06, 2010, 11:52:26 PM
Quote from: frankieG on August 06, 2010, 06:52:35 PM
ghey
Please my friend can you elaborate as to why you think its ghey? is it looks or what if i may ask?
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: JAY W on August 07, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
I seen a new bit of kit on the telly recently,a generator to recharge electric cars (or bikes poss`) made by a Brit firm  looked a bit like a turbo force fed air, about just over a foot long and 5/7 inch wide.
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: makenzie71 on August 07, 2010, 01:50:23 PM
When they make an EV bike that cost comparatively to a fuel powered machine that can go 100 miles at 70mph...I'll think they're cool.
Title: Re: This will be my next bike!
Post by: JAY W on August 07, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
I watched the electric bikes at the TT (isle of man) races on the tv this year,some of them did look pretty cool,a handfull completed the coarse 38.5 mile,US bike came first and prob` the best looking but the humming along does nothing for me.