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Title: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 28, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
well, I've said once or twice the sad story of my 93. this is the last time  :D. I got the bike in a trade back in 2001. I rode it 2001 and 2002 then I transferred to Maine in the middle of winter. I left it at my parents house with the intention of picking it up the following summer. Feb of 03 I went on deployment and when I got back, it was August so winter was right around the corner again. I also came back with some extra money and picked up a Honda 450 cruiser for $500. I rode that around til the summer of 05 when I bought a Ducati Monster. I had that til the summer of 07 when I bought an 06 Suzuki M50 which I still have and I've put 18xxx miles on it. this past weekend, I finally picked up that 93 I abandoned in 2002. it is in rough shape, but salvageable. I'm planning on taking it apart, cleaning it up and probably chopping the tail as I've seen in a thread or 3 on here. at this very moment, I'm sitting at work but when I get home I'll post some pics. it's gonna take a while to get back on the road, but after 8 years, whats the rush?? I just hope it doesn't take me the 3 years its taken charlie lol.

Mike
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 28, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
ok I'm gonna give this a shot. I'm mostly computer retarted so bear with me. BTW I did look under the help section before trying this

I did actually start pulling stuff before I remembered that I should take pics. but when I brought it home it looked pretty much like this.

(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=456779914215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215#!/photo.php?fbid=456779954215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215&pid=5213146&id=695014215)

then I took more stuff off and it looked like this.

(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=456779914215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215#!/photo.php?fbid=456780044215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215&pid=5213155&id=695014215)
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: saxman on October 28, 2010, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: EndlessProject93 on October 28, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
ok I'm gonna give this a shot. I'm mostly computer retarted so bear with me. BTW I did look under the help section before trying this

I did actually start pulling stuff before I remembered that I should take pics. but when I brought it home it looked pretty much like this.

(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=456779914215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215#!/photo.php?fbid=456779954215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215&pid=5213146&id=695014215)

then I took more stuff off and it looked like this.

(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=456779914215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215#!/photo.php?fbid=456780044215&set=a.456779874215.256386.695014215&pid=5213155&id=695014215)

You need to have the photos hosted somewhere other than facebook. www.photobucket.com works great.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 28, 2010, 09:25:41 PM
sweet. thanks. I have a photobucket account.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 28, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
OK 1 more time, before and after. I will take more pictures tomorrow.

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00278.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00276.jpg)
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 29, 2010, 01:54:37 PM
so far, most everything has come off easy. surprisingly not much in the way of corroded hardware. the battery box has had it though.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: Fry on October 29, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
Cool, I love any type of Build Thread, start twisting the wrenches, snapping pictures, and modd'ing the bike....
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: JB848 on October 29, 2010, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: EndlessProject93 on October 29, 2010, 01:54:37 PM
so far, most everything has come off easy. surprisingly not much in the way of corroded hardware. the battery box has had it though.

Crap, there is a secret mixture that I used on mine and it ate all of the corrosion..guys help me out I forgot what it was. I then used chemtool to clean all the residue off. Primered and painted it used strips of weather stripping inside to replace the factory stuff and viola looks just like new. Well mostly. After that I replace the vent tube and made sure the was space between the frame and the tube that there was no way the tube could come off or leak onto the frame.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 29, 2010, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: Fry on October 29, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
Cool, I love any type of Build Thread, start twisting the wrenches, snapping pictures, and modd'ing the bike....

I turn wrenches for a living so that's the easy part. actual frame work may take some time. I'm not a welder and the guy who does all my welding is also in the navy and goes out to sea quite a bit.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 29, 2010, 08:19:36 PM
spoke too soon. not that bad but I had to drill out the screws that hold what I'm guessing is the CPU (brainbox??) from the left side of the battery box. I meant to take some pictures today but I was busy all morning then had to work. I'll take some tomorrow. my garage has GS parts everywhere.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 30, 2010, 06:35:34 PM
progress is slow right now. I'm still trying to decide exactly what direction to go with it. before I start cutting or chopping, I want to get it running again. I hooked it up to a battery today, I got lights but it wouldn't turn over. I got indicator lights on the speedo panel so the power is there. my kids were having a blast with the horn....little turds.... I know I have 1 busted spark plug wire but I ordered replacements from ebay. they should be here next week. as I was following wires, it looks like my sidestand wire harness is burnt up but the relay looked good. I found a wiring schematic so I'm gonna follow that and see what I can come up with. since I don't have much more to say, here's a couple of pics of my mess.

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00290.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00281.jpg)

and 1 of my daily rider just for grins and giggles.

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00258.jpg)
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: Paulcet on October 31, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Woah!  She rides that every day!   :thumb:
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on October 31, 2010, 08:03:25 PM
 gotta get her started early. ;)
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: JB848 on October 31, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
EndlessProject93 let me start out by saying TY for your service.
What was the outcome with the battery box? Also you never learned to weld in the Navy? Cool, NP have your buddy teach you. If you can wrench odds are you can weld.

Anyway get that old girl going! Post your progress when you can.

LOL, I thought my garage was a mess? But it looks like you have two little helpers there to make that happen :thumb:
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 01, 2010, 05:04:23 AM
I'm not sure if I can save the battery box. no big deal, I should be able to make a new one.

I never learned to weld because naval aircraft are mostly aluminum and fastened together. very little welding is actually done. I've always wanted to learn, just never really had the chance. I plan on learning on this build.

now onto my question. I have a sealed batter attached to a trickle charger, I know the battery is bad, but attached to the charger I get lights. still no turning over. the kickstand relay was buzzing on saturday to the point you could feel it. yesterday, no more buzzing but I could hear it click when the key was turned on. I traced wires and couldn't find anything out of the ordinary. still waiting on the new coils and plug wires. could it just be the battery??
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: seamax on November 01, 2010, 06:44:25 AM

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SQUID!  :D :thumb:
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 01, 2010, 09:40:48 AM
looks like I need a multimeter. coils and plug wires came in today. installed and still nothing. I need to check the starter solenoid I guess. alot of this stuff was replaced a couple years ago by my dad because he wanted to use it as a commuter bike but lost interest. maybe I'll buy a new battery tomorrow. I don't think this one has the juice to do anything, even attached to the trickle charger.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: Paulcet on November 01, 2010, 02:49:23 PM
Yes, a weak battery can cause a relay to buzz and click.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: the mole on November 01, 2010, 03:27:01 PM
I'm guessing the buzzing and clicking was the starter relay, due to low battery voltage under load. Just jump start it from the M50. Leave the M50 motor switched off, and (if the GS has no battery) leave the jumper leads connected while you run the GS motor.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 01, 2010, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: the mole on November 01, 2010, 03:27:01 PM
I'm guessing the buzzing and clicking was the starter relay, due to low battery voltage under load. Just jump start it from the M50. Leave the M50 motor switched off, and (if the GS has no battery) leave the jumper leads connected while you run the GS motor.

according to the diagram I saw it was the kickstand relay but I could be wrong (it's been known to happen) I'm going to buy a new battery tomorrow. hopefully I can get somewhere then. if not, I'm just gonna keep it disconnected as I go so it doesn't die too.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 01, 2010, 09:22:48 PM
she made noise tonight!!!!!  :woohoo: looks like a combination, bad battery and starter relay. hooked cables to the M50 (thanks Mole) but had nothing. jumped the relay with a screwdriver and she came to life. looks like I'm driving to Va Beach tomorrow to pick up some parts. got a soda bottle fabbed up so I can put some gas in it and maybe get her to run tomorrow. as soon as I know she'll run, the real work begins.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 01, 2010, 09:27:49 PM
and just because I had to take it off to get to the battery........

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00306.jpg)
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: JB848 on November 01, 2010, 10:06:36 PM
Quote from: seamax on November 01, 2010, 06:44:25 AM

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00258.jpg)

SQUID!  :D :thumb:
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LMAO seamax you made me laugh! But wouldn't she be a squidette?
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 02, 2010, 07:24:01 AM
she saw her picture and made sure to point out the fact that she didn't have shoes on and that she was going to work in that picture.

I'm only a squid in the sense that I am Navy. just like the marine corp, the aviation world is different. I haven't been on a ship since 2001. I've been around the world a few times, just on an airplane  :thumb:
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 02, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
well, I didn't make it to the store today. everybody is always so busy. here's what I did do....

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00307.jpg)
(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00308.jpg)
(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00309.jpg)

If I had someone else to take pictures you would have seen me with the bottle upside down on the handlebars, the cables strewn across the floor and me with a screwdriver jumping the solenoid. it just chugged tho. no start. any thoughts?? I've got another plan of attack in the works for tonight when I get home from work.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 02, 2010, 09:18:45 AM
I also primed the tank. look at all those dents.

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab206/transitapparent/motorcycles/SNC00310.jpg)
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 03, 2010, 05:20:27 AM
LIFE!!!!! I think my fuel hoses are routed wrong because she didn't run long. just long enough to burn the gas I poured into the carbs. definitely a good sign tho.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: JB848 on November 03, 2010, 05:39:09 AM
Good news another GS lives! Silly question for you. You do have a manual right? The forum sells them and there is also a PDF of it going around. :thumb:
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 08, 2010, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: JB848 on November 03, 2010, 05:39:09 AM
Good news another GS lives! Silly question for you. You do have a manual right? The forum sells them and there is also a PDF of it going around. :thumb:

I don't have a manual but so far, I've been able to find everything in the gstwin encyclopedia. if I need it I'll get it, but I'm good for now.

SHE LIVES!!!!! she idles real high, 6kish, but I think the throttle is adjusted too far in. the arm sits at least 1/4 inch from the idle control screw turned all the way in. I also need to put some sort of restrictor on my hoses coming from the bottle. fuel is coming from the top T while she runs and she floods out occasionally.

now that I know she will definitely run with some tweaking, it's time to pull out the cutoff wheel and call my welder  :thumb: I've got some ideas (and a second seat on the way) but nothing pointing in any certain direction yet.   
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 09, 2010, 02:46:09 PM
ordered a solenoid from Ebay today. when it gets here, I'll buy a new battery. breaking out my angle grinder tomorrow.
Title: Re: 93 GS500E my turn for a build page
Post by: EndlessProject93 on November 16, 2010, 10:51:53 PM
got my starter solenoid today and still no worky. after watching a youtube video (I presume it was someone on here) It looks like my starter switch is bad. got one coming. I haven't broke out the angle grinder yet. been too busy with work and my honey do list. maybe I'll get her running and just put her back together as is until I get a little more time  :dunno_black: