Re-Sized for JB848 :cool:
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2rrw3yq.jpg)
Until you work out that how much it weighs!
Not sure I'm following? According to Suzuki's site its dry weight is 475 lb. I believe my 500 is ~400lbs. I do alot of long trips and touring and think that this bike would be a great choice for that. Has anyone ever ridden one? Any comments/feedback?
I've ridden one a fair bit - given it's water cooled it's not really fair to compare dry weights....think about 550lbs wet vs 400lbs wet!
It's ok, just nothing special....some big bikes hide their mass well....this one doesn't.
yeh that weight is kinda ridiculous. i'd rather go for the sv650. same weight as the gs5 lol.
Nah...don't listen to them...it's a great bike. I know a guy that has one and says it is great...it is heavier than the GS, but it has twice the power...it is the next step up the ladder from the GS in the Suzuki sport bike line-up. If you do a lot of hiway, the weight is helpful...it makes the bike more steady...just remember this bike is not a super sport, but a sport touring bike that replace the outdated Katana bikes. Just like the Bandit 1250S got replaced this year by the GSX1250FA (which is the big brother to the GSX650F)...I thought it was a nice bike and felt very familiar (same riding position as the GS)...so yeah, an extra 120-130lbs, but also an extra 50Hp to move it around...it will feel like a rocket compared to the GS500F or E if you have the naked one.
Bikes to compare it to...
Yamaha FZ6R...
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_XzHeOPXAEVE/TM-B29pZpEI/AAAAAAAAAVc/1DYb0upkQGg/s800/2010-Yamaha-FZ6Rd%5B1%5D.jpg)
Honda CB600F (Canada only)...
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_XzHeOPXAEVE/TM-B4FNS2MI/AAAAAAAAAVk/I24ZfwUZ2FI/2010-Honda-CBF600ABSa%5B1%5D.jpg)
Kawasaki Ninja 650R...
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_XzHeOPXAEVE/TM-B3zXmz4I/AAAAAAAAAVg/6zg1wVGFbv8/s800/2010-Kawasaki-Ninja650Rc%5B1%5D.jpg)
Hyosung GT650S...
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_XzHeOPXAEVE/TM-B4q3n_qI/AAAAAAAAAVo/Y3GuizUU8sE/s912/2010-Hyosung-GT650SFIa%5B1%5D.jpg)
Happy shopping...
Later.
OK, have to say a couple of things. I probably more then anyone love pictures but do they have to be so big? Do what you want though.
Next is I think in the past all makers Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and others all made bike that where so close in looks, styling etc... Latley it seems only Suzuki is the only one that has not gone off the deep end with this weird, OK I will say it "street fighter" silly tail look. Not a fan of it.
If I had room, I definately would get a GSXR before an SV or the other bikes pictured but that's just me. I think they look sweet and ride very nice.
You guys get the Kawasaki ER6? Maybe another one to consider?
Picture?
(http://au.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S0zu6ZqM9MDFoAot8W5gt./SIG=13c9thk5d/EXP=1288706329/**http%3a//www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/nouveautes2006/Kawasaki_ER6N_st3pz.jpg)
Doubt you will like JB. It has the streetfighter look to it.
LMAO how did you guess. It's a nice bike though. I just don't like the tail with nothing on it. Looks like a diving board? I don't know it's just me.
P.S. Thanks for the normal sized pic though :thumb:
(http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/images/2010/ER6N.jpg)
I've triple looked over on in the shop. That headlight is... wrong.
And a lousy 15.5 litres - 4.1 gallons. Of course, compared to the GS it's lousy :icon_mrgreen:
Michael
buy it! I logged in mobile just for this thread. put a steering damper on it and TRY TO STAY SANE.
Quote from: JB848 on November 01, 2010, 10:36:53 PM
OK, have to say a couple of things. I probably more then anyone love pictures but do they have to be so big? Do what you want though.
Next is I think in the past all makers Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and others all made bike that where so close in looks, styling etc... Latley it seems only Suzuki is the only one that has not gone off the deep end with this weird, OK I will say it "street fighter" silly tail look. Not a fan of it.
If I had room, I definately would get a GSXR before an SV or the other bikes pictured but that's just me. I think they look sweet and ride very nice.
Bikes are definaltey a personal preference, I think we all agree on that. Having ridden supersports, although fun not really what I'm after at the moment. A Sport-Touring is what Im looking for, I just have to find the right one for me :) I leaned towards the GSX simply because I like the GS and the GSX *appears* to be the GS's big brother...we'll see I guess...
I've always had a sweet spot for the monster. especially the 696 with the new body work.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRiob8QKq1ozOVKDvLC1gIMHX-0LjmrHTRgDSZHzu9LqqasDUk&t=1&usg=__ymZUPjZ1FyRVT0yFTTsixMn3lOI=)
or an older speed triple
(http://www.powersportstv.com/adminuploadedimage/400x200/2004_Triumph_Speed_Four.jpg)
As far as monsters go, Ive always liked the look of the older m900s. The newer ones look too busy. It's definitely the style of bike that I think benefits from looking simple.
Are you looking at a new one ? The problem with new bikes is there are always used bikes that are twice as good for half the price.
Quote from: SAFE-T on November 02, 2010, 09:44:31 AM
Are you looking at a new one ? The problem with new bikes is there are always used bikes that are twice as good for half the price.
+1 :thumb:
New is nice, but you have to pay the price of admission...I prefer to let someone else pay the depreciation...you loose about 20% each year for the first couple of years then it's about 10% per year after that...bikes usually bottom out around $1000 ish...depends on the bike, etc, but yeah...let someone else take the initial few years hit...
Later.
Quote from: madjak30 on November 02, 2010, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: SAFE-T on November 02, 2010, 09:44:31 AM
Are you looking at a new one ? The problem with new bikes is there are always used bikes that are twice as good for half the price.
+1 :thumb:
New is nice, but you have to pay the price of admission...I prefer to let someone else pay the depreciation...you loose about 20% each year for the first couple of years then it's about 10% per year after that...bikes usually bottom out around $1000 ish...depends on the bike, etc, but yeah...let someone else take the initial few years hit...
Later.
Most likely used. I bought my GS new simply becasue the price and extras were just too good to pass up and used ones weren't going for much less. But for my next bike it will more than likely be used and 08 or 09 hopefully. Completely agreed, let someone else eat the depreciation :)
I hate buying new bikes. Not even because of the depriciation, but just the hassle. You've got the break in, how many tune-ups there are in close range, not to mention warranties. As nice of an idea as it is, I hate buying a new bike and dealing with anything that may be wrong with it, arguing with the dealership to get it fixed. I like buying a bike used and knowing that it may just have a few issues, fixing them, and moving on. If I have a warranty I feel obligated to make the dealership fix it, and that's usually 3 times as much work than doing it myself. Even worse is owning a bike that's clean and spotless. I hate putting that first scratch in a bike. Give me one with a few scuffs and small dents and I can get straight to business.
Quote from: mister on November 02, 2010, 02:07:39 AM
(http://www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/images/2010/ER6N.jpg)
I've triple looked over on in the shop. That headlight is... wrong.
And a lousy 15.5 litres - 4.1 gallons. Of course, compared to the GS it's lousy :icon_mrgreen:
Michael
This is one of those unique bikes that when you get in a light front end collision, its value shoots up ... just toss a GS headlight on it and ride away.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: Miraz on November 01, 2010, 12:43:38 PM
I've ridden one a fair bit - given it's water cooled it's not really fair to compare dry weights....think about 550lbs wet vs 400lbs wet!
It's ok, just nothing special....some big bikes hide their mass well....this one doesn't.
Not being a bike aficionado, I had to ask. . .
What's the weight got to do with it?
You mean Top heavy?
Just wondering.
Thanks.
Weight in general can make a bike a hassle to ride. Once you're moving it can feel more stable, but at low speeds and twisty roads it's a lot more effort to move the bike around. Also the heavier a bike is the harder it needs to work to get moving. Think about how fast you could ride a bicycle up a hill, then think about how fast you could bicycle up a hill pulling a trailer with a 75lb kid in the back. Lighter bikes can use smaller motors to do the same work.
I agree, that headlight is something else. The idea is ok, I like vertically stacked dual headlights, but they've gotta be projectors with a nice little surround to tie them together. That giant setup they came up with is just all wrong.
Quote from: tt_four on November 02, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
Weight in general can make a bike a hassle to ride. Once you're moving it can feel more stable, but at low speeds and twisty roads it's a lot more effort to move the bike around. Also the heavier a bike is the harder it needs to work to get moving. Think about how fast you could ride a bicycle up a hill, then think about how fast you could bicycle up a hill pulling a trailer with a 75lb kid in the back. Lighter bikes can use smaller motors to do the same work.
I'm not a roadcraft guy, I just commute.
However I would imagine that skilled sportbike riders can feel things in performance, balance, and suspension that I could never detect with my collection of un-fast bikes.
I didn't realize ten or twenty pounds made that much difference.
Thanks for the input on that! :thumb:
I don't think I'm the kind of person that would really notice a difference in 10-20 lbs either, but I'm only 5'8 and 145lbs, so I definitely try to find the lightest bikes I can, and keep it under 400lbs dry. I can say though that on my last bike I could notice a huge difference between an empty and a full tank. I'm not sure how much an extra 3-4 gallons of gas weighs, but it definitely makes a bike handle different. You got used to it after a few miles, so I'm sure you'll get used to anything.
If your commute is mostly highway I don't think you'd notice too much. If you spend a lot of time in stop and go city traffic, you'd probably start to notice a difference.
That being said, people ride around on goldwings, so who's to say that a 500lb bike is really 'heavy'
If I were to move up in size though it would be a GSXR 650 (LOL edit 600). Which year do you think was the best?
I think I want one of these
(http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/Daytona675_2010_rhs_jetblack_534x309.jpg)
Quote from: ragecage23 on November 02, 2010, 10:33:00 PM
I think I want one of these
(http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/Daytona675_2010_rhs_jetblack_534x309.jpg)
No Arguments there....
Quote from: JB848 on November 02, 2010, 10:30:55 PM
If I were to move up in size though it would be a GSXR 650. Which year do you think was the best?
gsxr600 or gsxf650? I don't think there's been too many changes to the 650s. There's definitely some changes since they were the gsxf600s, but I think all the 650s are pretty much the same. If you meant to say 600, I think it's the usual matter of the newer the better. I'm not crazy about the 2006+ version but it's slowly growing on me. My favorite year was the 04-05, which was the first year with UDS forks and radial brakes. The SRAD has always been one of my favorites too, and the later years were fuel injected, but obviously the styling is outdated so it depends how you feel about it. The model after the SRAD worked but looked bulky and still had the original forks. I know the srads were bulky too, but they had style to go with it, the 01-03 version was some weird mix of round and angular that I'm just not sure about. There was a siginificant drop in weight when those bikes came out though.
My buddy has an 08 GSXR, great bike for sure and fast...If money was limitless I'd have one of these in my garage too :)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2h84z0p.jpg)
Yeah I was leaning towards getting a 2004 like this one.
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/rtarpley/Yellow2004GSXR600.jpg)
Back fender would have to go though and the rims would be painted yellow as soon as I could stop riding it. :thumb:
Looking for some good reviews of the GSX650F...essentially the 650 Bandit with a fairing. First two are just the GSXF, third one is vs. the FZ6R and 650 Ninja.
http://www.superbike.co.uk/tests/suzuki_gsx650f_review_news_198757.html
http://www.moto123.com/motorcycle-reviews/article,2008-Suzuki-GSX-650F-Review.spy?artid=101602&pg=2
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2010-kawasaki-ninja-650-vs-2009-suzuki-gsx650f-vs-2010-yamaha-fz6r-89460.html
I'd be more than happy to ride a yellow one if I had it, but I've always been fond of the red and black color schemes on all years, as well as just black. I had a friend who had the black 04 600 with the orange stickers that looked pretty slick too. I know black can look boring, and I try really hard to stick with colors on things, but sometimes things just look soooo good in black.
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010%5C05%5C06%5Cbikepics-1969024-800.jpg)
My all time favorite paint is the red/black/silver that came on some of the 99-2001 bikes. I want to say I've seen pictures of one or two of the 04-05 bikes painted like this as well, but I could be making that up.
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010%5C05%5C09%5Cbikepics-1971023-800.jpg)
and SRAD
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010%5C08%5C16%5Cbikepics-2040931-800.jpg)
Quote from: ragecage23 on November 02, 2010, 10:33:00 PM
I think I want one of these
(http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/Daytona675_2010_rhs_jetblack_534x309.jpg)
That has just been trumped, sir:
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/11/02/mv-agusta-s-new-f3-motorcycle-fully-revealed
I was freaking out about that thing the other day. Something I read also said they were going to make a mini sized Brutale, so the Street triple is gonna have some real competition too. Unfortunately there isn't a an MV dealership within some serious hours of where I live.
Quote from: SAFE-T on November 03, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: ragecage23 on November 02, 2010, 10:33:00 PM
I think I want one of these
(http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/Daytona675_2010_rhs_jetblack_534x309.jpg)
This is when Triumph steals a bunch of ideas and incorporates it into the 675. Plus, in my opinion, the 675 looks nicer.
That has just been trumped, sir:
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/11/02/mv-agusta-s-new-f3-motorcycle-fully-revealed
This is when Triumph steals a bunch of their ideas and incorporates it into the 675. Plus, in my opinion, the 675 looks nicer.
the daytona 675 looks good, except from the front of course, but an MV is a work of art. When a manufacturer can make a bike, and keep pretty much the same exact design for over 10 years, and have it still look just as good after all that time you know they're onto something good. Same thing with the old Ducatis. The 916 still looks better than most current bikes.
There are some Kwakas I like the look of...
ER5
(http://www.visordown.com/members/images/166823/Gallery/ER5.jpg)
ZR7
(http://www.portalemoto.org/images/annunci_moto/moto_kawasaki_zr_7.jpg)
The Honda 919
(http://pdftown.com/image/9311-Honda-919f.jpg)
I ride a naked GS500
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/4628082275_9f041ba087.jpg)
See a pattern?
Michael
No but I can see KFC in the background of the last pic which makes me want some nuggets ;)
I've always liked the ZR7. That was actually one of the bikes that got me back into riding after stopping for a few years. Someone used to always have one parked on the walkway to their house, and I always passed it on the way home. I figured it was a good mix of looking good, but still not being stupid fast and light, so it would be nice for just getting around, and actually having some self control.
I want this....
(http://thekneeslider.com/images/wakan5.jpg)
Quote from: Twisted on November 04, 2010, 04:10:39 AM
No but I can see KFC in the background of the last pic which makes me want some nuggets ;)
:laugh:
Quote from: SAFE-T on November 04, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: Twisted on November 04, 2010, 04:10:39 AM
No but I can see KFC in the background of the last pic which makes me want some nuggets ;)
:laugh:
:icon_rolleyes:
If you are ordering nuggets from KFC ...it's not chicken.
Quote from: seamax on November 05, 2010, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: SAFE-T on November 04, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: Twisted on November 04, 2010, 04:10:39 AM
No but I can see KFC in the background of the last pic which makes me want some nuggets ;)
:laugh:
:icon_rolleyes:
If you are ordering nuggets from KFC ...it's not chicken.
Animal 57?
Michael
There's gotta be at least a little chicken in there, right?? :dunno_black:
(http://freaky.thehappening.org/src-images/chicken_nugget%202.jpg)
Haha that had to of just been some discgruntled employee that cut off a head and had it deep fried, because clearly a whole head never could've made it through the machine that turns it into the mcnugget sludge they actually make them from....
(http://s.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/16/16/chicken-mcnugget-step-one-1447-1232141429-13.jpg)
Almost looks like ice cream
I looked at the GSX650f as well as the FZ6 & Versys. In person I didn't like the way the frame looked, and I noticed lots of GSX650f site members moved to other bikes quickly. Bought an 07 FZ6 cheap.
Easy how a head got in there ... they hit em with a electric shock that makes em stand up stiff ... as a blade hacks off their head.
If a chicken was dead already, it wont stand up ... however not to worry, if a chicken was dead, they would never put it in their belt to be shocked and chopped, they would put it in the burger line ... so you're only getting fresh dead chicken ... I mean they slaughter them in 7 weeks, so this chicken died from some horrible disease in that 7 week ... but remember it didn't die say in 6 weeks, it just died, maybe minutes after it was on the belt. So a 7 week old dead from non electrical causes chicken ... man doesn't that sound delish ...
And BTW ... a black girl holding fried chicken ... toss in a slice of water melon in the pic and you got a southern classic.
Cool.
Buddha.
Just got back from Yamaha store. Salesman told me FZ6 is now discontinued. You want an FZ? It's now FZ8. He's pretty sure the XJ6 is also out. And as there is no Scorpio anymore, they'll have nothing between their underpowered 125 and the FZ8 - in Australia. And he doesn't understand why Yamaha is ignoring such a large segment of the market.
All nuggets are Stamped from something, like making cookies. All "deli meat" has wheat and soy flour in it. Why does bacon contain sugar? What actually is the Turkey-shaped turkey thing on the shelf? What on earth is Seafood Extender?
Used to work next to a chicken joint. Chickens could die in the cage on the back of the truck waiting to be "processed" - even if truck parked under canopy with fans and water blowing on them. Chickens die in the cage on the truck in transport.
Downer cows - just dropped dead for no apparent reason - are still put into the foodchain for humans to eat. Yum.
You don't want to know where gelatin comes from.
Michael
Quote from: tt_four on November 05, 2010, 03:10:24 PM
Almost looks like ice cream
That's because that's also their strawberry ice cream
Quote from: tt_four on November 03, 2010, 03:45:13 PM
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010%5C05%5C09%5Cbikepics-1971023-800.jpg)
OMG that is one beautiful bike! No Doubt would go awsome with my jacket :thumb:
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/rtarpley/Jacket.jpg)
Best looking bike ever. I'm not as crazy about the bulkiness of that generation of gsxrs, but I'd go crazy if I could grab one of those. It's amazing what a good color scheme can do to an otherwise standard looking bike
I like the way the FZ8 looks. I've always liked the look of the naked FZ1, but don't need a bike that big. The thing that's really pissing me off lately though, is companies just taking bigger bikes, sleeving down the motor, and selling it as a completely different 'smaller' bike that's actually the same size and heavier. Kawasaki did it with the Z1000 and Z750, they just did it with the ninja 650 and the ninja 400, and now Yamaha is doing it. If you're gonna cut displacement you have to find a way to cut weight too. The GSXR750 was amazing when the SRAD version came out because it was a bike that had the weight of a 600 and the power of a 1000cc. What in the world made manufactures think they could start making 750-800s with the weight of a 1000cc bike and the power of a 600?? :cookoo:
Quote from: tt_four on November 05, 2010, 07:33:58 PM
Best looking bike ever. I'm not as crazy about the bulkiness of that generation of gsxrs, but I'd go crazy if I could grab one of those. It's amazing what a good color scheme can do to an otherwise standard looking bike
I like the way the FZ8 looks. I've always liked the look of the naked FZ1, but don't need a bike that big. The thing that's really pissing me off lately though, is companies just taking bigger bikes, sleeving down the motor, and selling it as a completely different 'smaller' bike that's actually the same size and heavier. Kawasaki did it with the Z1000 and Z750, they just did it with the ninja 650 and the ninja 400, and now Yamaha is doing it. If you're gonna cut displacement you have to find a way to cut weight too. The GSXR750 was amazing when the SRAD version came out because it was a bike that had the weight of a 600 and the power of a 1000cc. What in the world made manufactures think they could start making 750-800s with the weight of a 1000cc bike and the power of a 600?? :cookoo:
The specs on the Aust Yamaha site say the FZ1 has a wet weight of 214kg while the FZ8 (built on a new 779cc engine) has a wet weight of 211kg. BUT, if they are including fuel in wet weight, then the FZ8 is lighter with 1 liter less fuel and a 180 rear instead of a 190. So essentially, the same weight as an FZ1 but with a 779cc engine WTF?
Michael
Well I think that bike looks sweet. Haven't ridden a GSXR in like 5 years. I don't think the power is much more then as it is now by a little. I was in 5th gear and kicked it down to 4th and rode a wheelie by the throttle only past the 3 dumbass cages. It scared me at first until I remembered my days on the dirt where you lean where you want to go. I just leaned on the tank on the side I wanted to go an man that was fun!
Quote from: mister on November 05, 2010, 08:15:21 PM
So essentially, the same weight as an FZ1 but with a 779cc engine WTF?
Michael
I didn't dig into the yamaha weights, I just assumed they'd be the same, if not heavier for the smaller. I don't remember the exact numbers but I'm almost positive the z750 was even heavier than the z1000. You'd think they'd still be the same, but the 750 had a lot of cheaper parts, so the difference in suspension, the exhaust, and whatever else they changed actually made it heavier.
Yeah I doubt there's a huge power difference between the gsxrs. Half of the HP difference is going to be from raising the redline and stripping the bike of midrange, so I'd actually prefer an earlier version since it would make a better street bike for what I would do with it. I know just about any bike can be wheelied, but I'm not looking to get technical, do anything goofy, or abuse things like the clutch. I just think it would be fun to have a bike for a while with enough power to just do what I want it to, haha. Don't need to do stand up wheelies on the highway, it would just be fun to get on the gas and have the front wheel lift a foot or so no matter what speed I'm riding it.
Quote from: mister on November 05, 2010, 05:29:21 PM
Just got back from Yamaha store. Salesman told me FZ6 is now discontinued. You want an FZ? It's now FZ8. He's pretty sure the XJ6 is also out. And as there is no Scorpio anymore, they'll have nothing between their underpowered 125 and the FZ8 - in Australia. And he doesn't understand why Yamaha is ignoring such a large segment of the market.
All nuggets are Stamped from something, like making cookies. All "deli meat" has wheat and soy flour in it. Why does bacon contain sugar? What actually is the Turkey-shaped turkey thing on the shelf? What on earth is Seafood Extender?
Used to work next to a chicken joint. Chickens could die in the cage on the back of the truck waiting to be "processed" - even if truck parked under canopy with fans and water blowing on them. Chickens die in the cage on the truck in transport.
Downer cows - just dropped dead for no apparent reason - are still put into the foodchain for humans to eat. Yum.
You don't want to know where gelatin comes from.
Michael
You upgrading? Doing deals with the dark side are we?
I might go into Top Gun tomorrow since they're having a sale on Shoei helmets. My Shoei is illegal >:( Since when does a little sticker with ticks on it make you safer. Serious BS.
Quote from: Twisted on November 07, 2010, 02:26:29 AM
Quote from: mister on November 05, 2010, 05:29:21 PM
Just got back from Yamaha store. Salesman told me FZ6 is now discontinued. You want an FZ? It's now FZ8. He's pretty sure the XJ6 is also out. And as there is no Scorpio anymore, they'll have nothing between their underpowered 125 and the FZ8 - in Australia. And he doesn't understand why Yamaha is ignoring such a large segment of the market.
All nuggets are Stamped from something, like making cookies. All "deli meat" has wheat and soy flour in it. Why does bacon contain sugar? What actually is the Turkey-shaped turkey thing on the shelf? What on earth is Seafood Extender?
Used to work next to a chicken joint. Chickens could die in the cage on the back of the truck waiting to be "processed" - even if truck parked under canopy with fans and water blowing on them. Chickens die in the cage on the truck in transport.
Downer cows - just dropped dead for no apparent reason - are still put into the foodchain for humans to eat. Yum.
You don't want to know where gelatin comes from.
Michael
You upgrading? Doing deals with the dark side are we?
I might go into Top Gun tomorrow since they're having a sale on Shoei helmets. My Shoei is illegal >:( Since when does a little sticker with ticks on it make you safer. Serious BS.
If there is a deal to be had, there is always the possibility of Adding to the stable. ;) But you won't get any Deals at a Dealer.
I actually find Topgun has a better selection of Helmets/Boots/Gloves than Pro and often pop in there to look at their gadget goodies and other assorted accessories. I was surprised how barren their showroom floor is. Stacks of dirt bikes, but not too many road bikes. You'll see when you go in. Found out all this when I made a passing comment to the "can I help you" that there were no FZ6's as I headed to the stairs at the back of the store. I then had to politely listen :icon_rolleyes:
Michael