after riding with my dad, i couldnt hear my exhaust over his gsxr, is there any way i can get a good loud exhaust?
I hate riding with people when I can't hear my own bike. You forget how much you depend on hearing your motor when you're shifting and everything else. My bike has a vance and hines that is decently loud. there are a couple options and any of them will make your bike considerably louder not to mention faster and smoother if you rejet and get a new air filter
your exactly right, when i was riding with my dad he has a 98 gsxr 600 srad with full voodoo exhaust it sounds so sexy, and when i got to ride it i felt unstoppable im a fairly new rider, but have a good bit of experience with dirt bikes and four wheelers, i hit 95 on a straight away, the power band on the bike it intense, and when i let off the throttle my dad passed me on my gs going 95 lol
I used to have a yosi pipe from a cbr 600 on my gs,it fit with minimal modification and sounded good!
so it was loud and sounded good? what kind of jetting would i have to do, i am also probably going to get a k&n filter, would both of these add a bit of hp? i like speed and for what it is, the bike is quick, but after riding my dads gsxr, i fell in love haha
Don't ride it too much, you'll start to get sour on the GSs 40hp haha. Just wait it out until your dad upgrades and snag his 600. That's how I get some good stuff :thumb: I love those SRADs too!
well i dont think he will upgrade, if anything he will sell it, he buys or trades stuff, then sells or trades and makes profit, thats what he does, if anything ill try to buy it off of him haha, he sold me the gs, and since i got it i been trying to fix it up a little bit, once winter comes i have alot of shaZam! to take care of, if you check out my post about a winter build you will see what it looks like, and my plans for it, thanks everyone
I know your delima very well. The problem I have is there is a lot of pipes out there, well some, that will make your bike louder but man I have be honest with aI L2 it sounds like a Buddha loves you Tractor! So maybe your hearing likes are different and maybe you don't care be be aware of what it will sound likes before you buy. You will have to upgrade jets and the aircleaner is highly recommended if not mandetory. And yes there is a minimal HP gain.
Quote from: ZukiGS500E on November 08, 2010, 04:23:35 PM
once winter comes i have alot of shaZam! to take care of,
Quote from: JB848 on November 08, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
it sounds like a Buddha loves you Tractor!
Ooh, and if you haven't noticed yet, language is pretty heavily moderated on this forum.... haha
I moderated myself Thank you. :thumb:
Just cut it off. Worked for me.
Try this post there are some good suggustions and sound clips! :thumb:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=54177.0
get rid of the muffler, then add a tip at the end, u got it...it sounds good and loud as hell...
but is that legal in the states? i live in PA
You could buy a set of these, there all the rage, all the kiddies are buying them. Latest rage in form over function.
(http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/46126/2663404990073478356S600x600Q85.jpg)
What part of PA? I live in pittsburgh. Not having a real exhaust isn't legal, but unlikely it'll cause you any problems. My XB is as loud as can be, and as long as you don't go crazy when you're on the road you're not usually bothered.
When mine was straight piped nobody looked twice, except for a cop who was having a bad day and tagged 'improper exhaust' onto a speeding ticket.
i live ion lancaster, and fryz what kind of pipes are those? are they on a gs? instead of 2 into 1 its kinda like a true duel exhaust? how did you mount them?
Quote from: ZukiGS500E on November 09, 2010, 07:45:26 PM
i live ion lancaster, and fryz what kind of pipes are those? are they on a gs? instead of 2 into 1 its kinda like a true duel exhaust? how did you mount them?
Meh, it's just a knock off of seamax's (yet not nearly as awesome). Technically I don't believe it can count as a 'true dual' since the h-pipe stays intact.
Try this, it works beautifully. Sounds just like the civic it came off of, just a civic at 11k rpm's. O0
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/redhen2/SSPX0559.jpg)
So cute off the h pipe and weld it shut sand and paint then true duel
Quote from: redhenracing2 on November 09, 2010, 07:59:00 PM
Try this, it works beautifully. Sounds just like the civic it came off of, just a civic at 11k rpm's. O0
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/redhen2/SSPX0559.jpg)
Vid of that exhaust in action please :woohoo: :woohoo:
Quote from: ZukiGS500E on November 10, 2010, 07:23:02 AM
So cute off the h pipe and weld it shut sand and paint then true duel
Yes, that would make it a true dual. You would have to weld it very cleanly though to keep it from interfering with the flow.
Quote from: gsf500RR on November 10, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
Vid of that exhaust in action please :woohoo: :woohoo:
Sorry, don't have any. It sounded swell though, and it made the flames shoot even further than when straight piped.
After checking the archives of MySpace, I found a video walk-around of the bike that I made when I was trying to sell it. Can't hear it in action, but get a little better view of how much cleaner it was mounted after making a few adjustments.
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoId=100220317
just cut it off with a grinder, rejet and put a backpressure baffle up the header pipe
Quote from: Fry on November 09, 2010, 02:43:19 PM
You could buy a set of these, there all the rage, all the kiddies are buying them. Latest rage in form over function.
(http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/46126/2663404990073478356S600x600Q85.jpg)
Sure like to hear what that sounds like! :thumb:
Im getting there, Im getting there....Back to working on the bike just on weekends....Plus my heater in the garage is slowly poisoning me.
Now we understand the Avatar even more! :thumb:
Eh, I'm not about to turn this into a troll thread on back presssure. Plenty of debates on that already.
Troll Thread? Hummm :dunno_black:
'troll thread' meaning, causing an unnecessary argument over a useless subject that has been gone over hundreds of time with no real results. Just to start an argument.
Quote from: redhenracing2 on November 10, 2010, 09:25:18 PM
'troll thread' meaning, causing an unnecessary argument over a useless subject that has been gone over hundreds of time with no real results. Just to start an argument.
Enough said. But this site is about opinions so people can learn right? Well, and have fun doing it. So even though it has been talked about to the Nth you need to act like it is the first time it is asked with new people ask unless you can recall the exact thread which sometimes I can. If not, it's about helping the new people right? If we don't treat every new person with respect then this site will die. They may have asked a old question that is 4 pages deep. It is up to us that have been here and done that, it is our responsibility to help them not to waste their money, to help them not destroy their exhaust or something worse when some one has done that before. It took my awhile to get that but hey I learned. So speak your mind and help people.
And that was spoken from both bikes (inside joke)
You raise a good point. Let me dig around and see if I can find the exact thread I'm thinking of.
In essence, my personal stance on the matter is this:
An engine does not require back pressure to run, or run properly for that matter. You can literally unbolt the headers and run the engine, and the lack of back pressure would not be what hurts it. Some people say straight pipes will cause burned/bent valves and warpage of the head, and this is true in some cases, but it is not due to a lack of back pressure. If the pipes are too short, then cold air will rush in when you cut off the engine. This cold air rushes in and heads straight into the head where the exhaust valves await. Wait a second, that engine was running a second ago so it's probably not at room temperature. We all know what happens when you heat and then rapidly cool a metal . . . .
I am not a professional, and stand to be corrected, but this is what I have taken from personal experience and reading of these debates.
I was jokingly scoffing at the proposal of adding a 'backpressure baffle', no harm intended.
This one is a good read
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=36768.0
Good call Peter! I remember the first time I posted here. Everyone was so nice and helpful. Lets get back to that. Regardless of redundant posts..who cares..point them in the right direction.
Quote from: JB848 on November 10, 2010, 10:30:44 PM
Good call Peter!
Not sure if you are referring to me, my name is Gavyn :whisper:
Yeah, we definitely don't want to turn people away with brash deliveries, and should make it a point to be as helpful and kind to each other as possible. That's why this board is so great, we're like a brotherhood.
Free beers for everybody
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Yes Gavyn I was referring to you. It is a quote from the Movie "HOOK".
Robert
Err Charles!
Hmm, I've never seen it. Worth a rent?
a good ole debate on back-pressure. i read that the main problem is with carbureted engines; if you reduce backpressure you'll run lean and hot which will eventually ruin valves, head, etc.
Quote from: JB848 on November 10, 2010, 10:30:44 PM
Good call Peter! I remember the first time I posted here. Everyone was so nice and helpful. Lets get back to that. Regardless of redundant posts..who cares..point them in the right direction.
I think it's a little bit more complicated then pointing it in the right direction. I can attest to this with my car build.
On my FI V6, I wanted a better sounding and performing exhaust setup. Stock was a 6-1 setup. I did a custom 3-1 dual exhaust with high flow cats and mufflers. Don't want to go into details about pipe size because I tried various sizes. But overall the car ran much better at the highend although a little rich but the bottom was torqueless. Ran a dyno and I was right. Took it to a tuner shop and they said I needed a x-pipe before tha cats. Had them build me the pipe and welded it in. Ran the dyno again and what a difference that x-pipe made. The HP was about the same but the torque numbers were a big difference. I also had them weld in 2 of these before the x-member in case I was already rolling.
(http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/thumbs/qtec30cp_L.jpg)
Anyways someone probably can explain the physics for this, difference between small and big engine, and FI vs carb., etc.
But from this experience I chose to leave the GS stock h connection instead of doing true duels.
How much did those electric dumps run you? I priced them out once and was not happy with what I came up with . . .
Quote from: redhenracing2 on November 11, 2010, 12:24:37 PM
How much did those electric dumps run you? I priced them out once and was not happy with what I came up with . . .
Got a pair for $200 before electric ones were popular. All the old timers run manual pull ones. Now $200 would probably just get one.
hey what are ya doing with the butterfly valve? i'm not familiar with the set-up
edit: nvm i found my answer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tmLm2_yPd4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tmLm2_yPd4)
A guy I work with has a Super Bee with a 508 that has dual dumps like those. Flip the switch, and all hail breaks loose in the neighborhood :2guns:
Well my vote is for a full Jardine exhaust. My 05 came with one already installed and I love the sound of it. Its pretty loud and sounds like it is ready to blow up at around 5k rpm but keeps going up through the RPMs, I love it! Not sure how much louder it is than the stock exhaust as it came with it on already and this is my first bike, but I feel my bike is plenty loud and sounds much better than my friends ninja 250!
I have one of these -
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff62/icecreamhands/DSC00252a.jpg?t=1289577741)
It is a Screaming Demon SDR can. With the silencer removed it is pretty damn loud. I love when you decelerate now on my bike you get that cool snap, crackle and pop. Makes me smile :D
Quote from: JPFL8 on November 11, 2010, 08:45:33 PM
Jardine
http://www.biohazardcycles.com/servlet/the-4592/JARDINE-18-dsh-4020-dsh-723-dsh-02-SS-STAINLESS/Detail
This would look awesome. Of course it's meant for a gixxer, but the most you could possibly have to do is sleeve it for the different size. Pretty reasonable price for Jardine stuff.
Quote from: redhenracing2 on November 11, 2010, 05:36:25 PM
A guy I work with has a Super Bee with a 508 that has dual dumps like those. Flip the switch, and all hail breaks loose in the neighborhood :2guns:
Yes, I never run it open in the neighborhood. It makes the the V6 sound like a small block V8.
My next door neighbor has a chevy nova ss that he built frame up. It has duel exhaust to hi-flo cans. I just drool when I hear him turn it on.
Quote from: Twisted on November 12, 2010, 03:42:32 AM
I have one of these -
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff62/icecreamhands/DSC00252.jpg?t=1289558395)
It is a Screaming Demon SDR can. With the silencer removed it is pretty damn loud. I love when you decelerate now on my bike you get that cool snap, crackle and pop. Makes me smile :D
(sorry about the pic size JB. Photobucket isn't cooperating)
That's a huge can!! If you just want loud there is nothing louder than a megaphone can or tip or just open exhaust.
I guess I'm just too old. A loud exhaust is the LAST thing I want on a long trip. I find them f*cking annoying!
If I have to ride behind someone whose exhaust is loud enough to drown mine out, I don't do it. I go in front. Nothing is worse than riding BEHIND a loud exhaust for four to six hours.
If you do mod your exhaust, at least save the stock muffler and pipes so that the next owner can put it back on.
servus,
i have this one for sale.
selfmade with db-eater.
(http://gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/11027/vixxen.10_021.jpg)
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/08/14/bikepics-2039039-800.jpg)
price: 250 US$ inclusiv shipping
^ Sexiest pipes I've seen. I would have never thought to do that, using a collector for a 1-2 y pipe. I love it. You've done it again Jim :thumb: