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Title: New to the GS
Post by: tdiloren on January 21, 2011, 06:20:31 PM
   I just wanted to say hello from Maine.
   I'll be picking up a 93' GS for my daughter on Sunday. The bike has been well cared for but I'm sure I'll have some question about it.
   I've been riding since I was a kid and currently ride a 06' CBR600RR for street and trackdays.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tt_four on January 21, 2011, 07:14:17 PM
Welcome! Feel free to let us know when you come up with some question!
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on January 21, 2011, 11:31:11 PM
Velcome to ze nuthaus  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: Twisted on January 21, 2011, 11:35:10 PM
Welcome!  ;)

Be sure to post some photos of it after you pick it up so we can all have a gander.  :thumb:
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tdiloren on January 23, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
   Just picked up the bike today. The kid is going to freak when she sees it. Everthing works and is clean on this bike.
93' GS500e
14000 miles
100% stock
New air filter
Oil and filter just changed
90% left on the pads
75% left on the tires
Chain is in the middle of the adjustment gauge
  I'm going to remove the brakes and wheels just to make sure everthing is clean, greased, and torqued to spec and working properly. And just give the bike a good once over to make sure it's safe.
  If anyone has a link to a shop manual or torque spec I'd appreciate it but I will do a search.
  Is there anything I should pay special attention too?
  Sorry for the cell phone pics but here she is
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n535/tdiloren/IMG_20110123_132318.jpg)(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n535/tdiloren/IMG_20110123_132300.jpg)(http://[img]http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n535/tdiloren/IMG_20110123_132215.jpg)(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n535/tdiloren/IMG_20110123_132159.jpg)
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: redhenracing2 on January 23, 2011, 08:11:39 PM
Looks good from what I can tell. First bike I assume? It'll make a good one.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tt_four on January 23, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Looks great! How old is your daughter? When I was 17 my dad gave me my first bike. Obviously the gs looks much cooler. I still loved every second on it though.

(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C05%5C26%5Cbikepics-910794-800.jpg)
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: mister on January 24, 2011, 03:06:42 AM
So are we gonna see a video like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460a-94sKGE (brings a smile to my dial everytime)

Michael
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tdiloren on January 24, 2011, 05:29:22 AM
 Shes 17 and  Yes it is her first bike and there will be a video after I go through it. Right now it's at a friends house in a heated garage. It was killing me last night not to tell her about it. I'm probably as excited right now as she will be when she gets it. It's a double edge sword though since we all know the dangers on The road. She already has an A* two piece suit, gloves,and boots. I just need to get her a back protector (atgatt). Then it's to the MSF course , some street time, then just to make sure she's totally addicted to the track  :D
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: The Buddha on January 24, 2011, 08:56:45 AM
The remove and check and clean everything isn't neccesary. Wheels bearings and brake systems etc etc are all very well sealed off from the elements.
The thing being consistently albeit lightly used is always good for it. Like a 25 mile ride every month, and when its not being run, parking it indoors is always the best for it. If this has been used/maintained that way it will probably be in great shape.
Anyway, I cant see the pics from work, so I'd defer to the others here.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: redhawkdancing on January 24, 2011, 10:37:45 AM
Get her a vest too!   :cheers:

http://www.safermoto.com/products/details.asp?PDID=13&catID=11
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: ohgood on January 24, 2011, 11:08:59 AM
one very stock, very red, very good condition gs = SCORRRRRRREEE !

congrats on her new bike and welcome to gstwins. :-)
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: scratch on January 24, 2011, 11:42:58 AM
Congrats and welcome!  Bike looks to be in excellent material condition!
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tdiloren on January 24, 2011, 06:14:30 PM
   Thanks for the welcomes and comments everyone. The bike IS VERY stock and in great condition. If it was for me I would probably just made sure the brakes worked and rode this bike because it looks so well cared for. But it's not for me so today I took a close look into everything at the back of the bike. As suggested everything was good just some cleaning, some grease and made sure everthing was torqued.
    I haven't run it long enough to get to full operating temp yet (10 minutes tops) but it seems to get bogged down when first opening the throttle and then the RPMs come down kind of slow (about a second from 6k) . Is this normal for these bikes or does this sound like the vacuum issue I read about here?
   
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: adidasguy on January 24, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
It might be.

Standard theory on that.
The carbs do open the fuel valve with a vacuum. If the vacuum valve is bad or there is a leak on the hose, then it won't open all the way and fuel will flow slower than needed.

However - I have one additional theory
There is a very tiny air hole in the edge of the gas cap (like 1/64 of an inch in diameter). This is what lets air into the tank as gas goes out. Gas isn't sucked out, it flows out. If that tiny hole starts to get clogged, air can't get in fast enough and you end up with a partial vacuum in the tank as fuel goes out which will eventually slow the flow enough that the engine dies of hunger. When going slow and fuel demands are low, air can get in fast enough either through the hole or just leaking around the gas cap seal.

Both are worth checking.

Easy to remove the gas cap (4 bolts) and look for the hole. Be sure it is cleaned out with a small wire and blast of air. If you still have the problem, then check the main fuel valve and vacuum lines. I say check that second because that is more work. The hole in the fuel cap should be clean, anyway, for proper fuel flow.

You might have an old fuel line that is pinched so fuel can't flow fast enough.

More advanced problem could be clogged filter in the fuel petcock. You can see that inside the tank. Fuel additive could help with that or you have to remove the tank, drain it and replace the petcock filter.

Of course, taking it out for a good run often blows out lots of accumulated gunk.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tt_four on January 24, 2011, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: tdiloren on January 24, 2011, 05:29:22 AMShe already has an A* two piece suit, gloves,and boots. I just need to get her a back protector (atgatt). Then it's to the MSF course , some street time, then just to make sure she's totally addicted to the track  :D

Good thinking. My dad took me up to my uncles camp in the woods, said "let this lever out while you twist this'. I spent a few minutes stalling the bike, then I spent the next 2 days riding around and falling over in the woods haha. It was a good time though. I took the MSF course as well about a month after I got the bike and it definitely helped.

As far as the bogging. Did you pull the carbs and clean them? 90% of the issues you'll ever come across can be fixed by cleaning out the carbs.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: redhenracing2 on January 24, 2011, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: tdiloren on January 24, 2011, 06:14:30 PM
Is this normal for these bikes

It could easily seem like an issue if you are used to a sport bike (which I assume, based on your avatar.) When I first got my bike I was amazed at how quick the revs pick up and drop down compared to the gs. If you can find somebody locally who has a gs (in good running condition) that you can compare it to, that may be your best shot at confirming whether you have a problem or not.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: The Buddha on January 24, 2011, 08:23:32 PM
Slow rpm drop = lean, however once up to full on temp and after a couple of fresh tanks of gas ... you would really know if the idle hovers ... then its lean. Its common, jet it to canadian specs ... 125/40/ 1 washer and 3 turns.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tdiloren on January 24, 2011, 08:29:01 PM
     We played on our neighbors dirty bikes last year to learn the basics. We also took the pocket bike out to some parking lots to get some practice on pavement. That little bike is scarier then the RR at 100+ and it only goes 30mph
     I haven't looked into anything on the engine yet. First I'm making sure it stops and rolls safely then we'll worry about the go parts. I'll get some video of what I'm talking about when I get to that stage. Thanks again for the advice.(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n535/tdiloren/IMG_20100822_144936.jpg)
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: tdiloren on January 27, 2011, 08:05:06 PM
I got a video of what the RPMs . They seem to hoover to me but I'm used to the rr. Is it normal for the RPM to come this slowly or am I looking at some sort of problem. If so any Ideas.
   Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzX37GPvnm0
Title: Re: New to the GS
Post by: redhenracing2 on January 27, 2011, 10:43:30 PM
It looks a little slow compared to what I recall mine being, but doesn't seem to be anything excessive. But then again my gs was the devil, ran on one cylinder below 6k, and got 17 miles per gallon . . . . so don't take my word for it.

This one looks pretty healthy for a comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v2s3tywy-Y