Man With Copyrighted Name Tries To Get Out Of Ticket
Whacko yet apparently legal.
This man deserves a medal.
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Man With Copyrighted Name Tries To Get Out Of Ticket
Police officers listen to a lot of excuses from people trying to get out of a ticket. But one man's excuse is not only original, it is legal and it surprised police.
A man told officers they could not write his name down because it was copyrighted.
"It's a copyrighted piece of material," said Daniel, who copyrighted his name. "To regain freedoms that are supposed to be ours but are restrained by ... well, I call it a police state."
The whole story came to light on Saturday afternoon when Independence police responded to a minor accident at Highway 24 and Mayes Road involving Daniel and another driver. That's when Daniel felt the need to exercise his copyright, KMBC's Lara Moritz reported.
"Blame just automatically came to me without any question as to what he had done or what the situation was," Daniel told KMBC's Lara Moritz.
Daniel said that the police were trying to make money by issuing him a traffic ticket, which he said is against his copyright.
"When they write you a ticket, it's commercial trade. There's something for them to gain monetarily or whatever," Daniel said.
For police to write his name down, Daniel said that they must pay a user's fee of $500,000 each time it is used.
Daniel hasn't seen any money from the Police Department yet. Daniel received three tickets. If the Police Department did infringe on his copyright, it would owe Daniel $1.5 million.
KMBC - Kansas City, Missouri
Well he got his tickets, so how does this work???
Daniel's recourse, if I understand it, would be to sue the Police Dept. for copyright infringement. Not only will that case get thrown out, but the Judge should jump off the bench and Buddha Loves You-slap Daniel for wasting the court's time and the taxpayer's money with such nonsense. :bs:
The defense rests.
Right just like the bitchslapped people for spilling hot coffee all over their moo-moos and sueing the hell out of mcdonald's...
Or like they Buddha Loves You slapped O.J.
Naive is not a good way to be... :nono:
Under the Fair Use dilly of the Big Ol' Book of Copyrights, as long as they're not selling his name to make money he gets the ticket and likes it.
This is for wasting Officer's time :guns: :o
Quote from: RashadRight just like the bitchslapped people for spilling hot coffee all over their moo-moos and sueing the hell out of mcdonald's...
Or like they Buddha Loves You slapped O.J.
Naive is not a good way to be...
Read carefully...I never said the Judge WOULD...I said he SHOULD. If you're saying that you think I'm being naive because you have taken my statement literally, then perhaps I should explain. It's a statement meant to emphasize, with some dry humor, the absurdity of Daniel's position that a copyright on his name is somehow sufficient to obstruct the administration of justice. It is not a literal or realistic expectation.
Furthermore, if you'll examine them closely, you'll see that neither of your analogies is valid, as the issues in a hypothetical copyright infringement action, and the issues in the above cases (tort action for negligence and defective/dangerous product in the McD's example, and criminal muder and civil wrongful death in the OJ example) are completely different.
Quote from: RashadRight just like the bitchslapped people for spilling hot coffee all over their moo-moos and sueing the hell out of mcdonald's...
I love this topic. I studied it in college.
The woman who won the money from McDonald's didn't win because she was stupid and couldn't hold a hot cup of coffee. She won because her lawyers uncovered records from McDonald's showing they purposely raised the temp of the coffee to get more cups from the same amount of beans.
They also got records from McDonald's proving their own test labs found that these higher temps MAY cause the cups to fail.
The court ruled in her favor because it was clear that McDonald's raised the water temp against the recomendtion of thier own testing dept.
In this ladies case the cup did not fail.
McDonald's clearly took the public's safety second to thier own profit.
Something to think about.
Paul
And what does it say on McD's coffee cups now? "Caution, contents may be hot".
Well excuse me Ronald, the contents better f**kin' had be hot or I want my money back! :nana:
Daniel said that the police were trying to make money by issuing him a traffic ticket, which he said is against his copyright.
"When they write you a ticket, it's commercial trade. There's something for them to gain monetarily or whatever," Daniel said.
Aside from Daniel's obvious attempt to use copyright laws to avoid personal responsibility, he also happens to be dead wrong regarding his assertion that the issuing of a traffic citation constitutes commercial trade.
Traffic tickets are part of law enforcement, as are monetary fines.
Maybe he'd be happier if the whole commercial issue became moot, and instead of a fine, he was given jail time. That way, the state could not possibly gain monetarily via copyright infringement.
The real issue here is that he doesn't like that he got caught, and is trying like heck to create a loophole.
Quote from: WozAnd what does it say on McD's coffee cups now? "Caution, contents may be hot".
Well excuse me Ronald, the contents better f**kin' had be hot or I want my money back! :nana:
The problem is not that it was hot, but it was FAR hotter than possible for human consumption. I used to work at McDonald's in high school. The coffee served could sit in a cup for a half hour and still be too hot to drink. Normal coffee, if spilled, would maybe leave a red mark on the skin. This coffee would leave large blisters. This is why the woman won the suit.
rotfl
Can you copyright your own name if you haven't made it up yourself and legally changed it? Coz copyright is supposed to protect folks intellectual property and creations... so unless he named himself, a copyright would go to his folks!
Hm, I wonder if I can copyright my kids... :roll:
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Can you copyright your own name if you haven't made it up yourself and legally changed it?
Nope, whomever copyrights it first gets the (c) next to it. doesnt matter if you came up with it or not...just if you filed the paperwork first.
Forget the fine...throw his arse in jail for a month or three and see if his copyrighted name gets him out.
Quote from: WozAnd what does it say on McD's coffee cups now? "Caution, contents may be hot".
Well excuse me Ronald, the contents better f**kin' had be hot or I want my money back! :nana:
:nana: asshat :) :mrgreen:
Quote from: ladybridrotfl
unless he named himself, a copyright would go to his folks!
Well, "the artist formerly known as Prince" changed his name to a weird glyph vaguely like the international symbol for "male". And it was also his trademark on his albums, so I assume he trademarked it. Wonder how he managed to get that done. It would be pretty hard to write a ticket using it, anyways.
But so many newsies called him "the artist formerly known as Prince", that now he changed his name to "the artist".
If you are written a ticket, you are...well, odds aren't against you. It is your word against a sworn in police officer. One exception is if you receive a speeding ticket in which you just got caught. Our government creates traffic laws as a concern for our safety. Speed limits are set to keep people from driving beyond their limits. If you didn't get pulled over for trying to see if you can break the sound barrier, then you can argue that at the time you got busted, you were endangering neither yourself nor the traffic arround you. I've heard of it working in Houston at least.
Well, I know personally, I never ahve to pay a ticket if I get it on my motorcycle.
The reason is this: My motorcycle does not technically exist. It is insured, but the government made an internal error, andthe plates go to no where, the serial number doesnt make sense to them either. Somewhow, they messed up,a nd so far I ahve gotten pulled over and given tickets quite a few times, but I enevr get notices, nor does it register when I pay my registration the year after. Its as if the ticket neevr happened. It absolutley wonderful. I love not having to worry! :cheers:
Prince got out of his contract with Sony because his name (the symbol) was unpronouncable. Not because it was trademarked.
This trademarked name thing will just get this guy in more trouble with the judge. If his case actually worked, the police would have to give money to Suzuki, Honda, Ford, and every other vehicle manufacturer for writing their names on the ticket as well. I say they should grant him his wish. Not make a dime off of him. Just give him a few days in jail and about 10,000 hours of community service. :nana: :mrgreen:
Quote from: dmp221Quote from: RashadRight just like the bitchslapped people for spilling hot coffee all over their moo-moos and sueing the hell out of mcdonald's...
Or like they Buddha Loves You slapped O.J.
Naive is not a good way to be...
Read carefully...I never said the Judge WOULD...I said he SHOULD. If you're saying that you think I'm being naive because you have taken my statement literally, then perhaps I should explain. It's a statement meant to emphasize, with some dry humor, the absurdity of Daniel's position that a copyright on his name is somehow sufficient to obstruct the administration of justice. It is not a literal or realistic expectation.
Furthermore, if you'll examine them closely, you'll see that neither of your analogies is valid, as the issues in a hypothetical copyright infringement action, and the issues in the above cases (tort action for negligence and defective/dangerous product in the McD's example, and criminal muder and civil wrongful death in the OJ example) are completely different.
Hehe. sorry bro, just being a duck :mrgreen: :thumb:
Quote from: Rich500Well, I know personally, I never ahve to pay a ticket if I get it on my motorcycle.
The reason is this: My motorcycle does not technically exist. It is insured, but the government made an internal error, andthe plates go to no where, the serial number doesnt make sense to them either. Somewhow, they messed up,a nd so far I ahve gotten pulled over and given tickets quite a few times, but I enevr get notices, nor does it register when I pay my registration the year after. Its as if the ticket neevr happened. It absolutley wonderful. I love not having to worry!
Yikes... good luck with that, Rich. :roll:
What's the statute of limitations on traffic tickets in Canada? These tickets may not be gone, but just waiting for someone to find and correct the clerical error. If that error ever gets sorted out, you could have a pile of old tickets on your hands pretty suddenly, no?
My experience is that its better to either abide by the law or pay-to-play when you get busted. Using a technicality that clearly isn't in the spirit of the law in question as a means of circumventing the law seldom works an is (IMHO) never ethical.... unless you're a tobacco company or a CEO :bs: :nana:
Just my 2cents.
peace
[quote="Rashad Hehe. sorry bro, just being a duck :mrgreen: :thumb:[/quote]
We cool, bro. :cheers: