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Title: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: The ol_kid on March 14, 2011, 08:33:53 PM
What's up team, Beginning a long and hopefully successful care free season of touring soon this season. Just wondering what people think of the GS500 "E" as a touring machine. I know that I've already bought it and serviced it and the whole go ahead, but I want to know what people think of it's ability in the world of touring. My tour's would essentially consist of less then 500km a day.

Thanks,
Ol'kid
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: Mart3y on March 14, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
I haven't done any touring as such, more so like 400-500km day trips, so I have nothing more than a backpack. But my GS seems to handle it no worries, no protection from the elements, but that hasnt bothered me.
One of those air hawk seats or something similar definitely wouldn't go astray though.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: madjak30 on March 14, 2011, 08:56:46 PM
It would do it no problem...I have done over 500km days on mine...we just stopped every 120-140kms to take pics or pee, whatever...the one day I did 565kms without my windshield, and could have done more (except when we hit the hail and rain storm, that kinda sucked)...I have the stock seat...the only time I found it lacking was when the guy I was with decided to "giver" and left me there...he was on a 1100cc Concours, but it did the speed limit plus all day and averaged under 5L/100kms...the only other thing that really sticks in my mind is that you need to stop after a while to give your buns and knees a break, just don't expect to drain the tank between stops...

I am going to be touring this summer on the GS if I can't decide what to get...it's really hard to replace something that works so well at almost everything and sips fuel while doing it...

Later.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on March 14, 2011, 09:26:13 PM
Not sure about the "E's"? But the "F's" can do it. HINT: it's the same bike  :whisper:


(http://home.comcast.net/~stykers/mcamp03.jpg)
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: ke7syv on March 14, 2011, 09:37:07 PM
Just ordered the CL-950 Nelson Rigg saddle bags from New Enough for $98. If you've ordered from them before, just talk to someone on chat or shoot them an email and request a 10% off coupon. If you haven't ordered there, not sure what your chances are but try anyways  :thumb:
As far as touring goes, I would say the most import things would be gear related but the bike is totally capable. I wonder if the 15 tooth I just put on would be appropriate or would a 17 be more fitting :dunno_black: I like the 15 so I might leave it until I do some serious touring. I already have an older tank bag. So as soon as I get saddle bags in I'll be itchin to go on a trip.












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Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: mister on March 15, 2011, 02:58:51 AM
The GS500 is the Poor Man's Tourer.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/2007_Suzuki_GS500F-001.JPG/800px-2007_Suzuki_GS500F-001.JPG)

I have the same Large bag as on this bike on my Naked GS500. And I've done heaps of 500km days we well as 400+ and 300+. The GS can easily handle those distances in a day.

Michael
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: tt_four on March 15, 2011, 04:51:57 AM
If you don't have a windshield(which I think you should get), make sure you at least remember the ear plugs. I don't do much highway, but the little bit I have done I quickly realized that a few hours of wind noise against your helmet can really take any enjoyment out of a ride. I felt sick for about 2 days afterwards because my headache was so bad and didn't even feel like riding. I have since bought ear plugs  :thumb:
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: gsJack on March 15, 2011, 05:27:00 AM
On our trips to the Smoky Mtns in 01-02-03-04 we did 400 mile first and last days to get there and played in the mountains while there for about 3 days.  I did them all on my 97 and 02 GS's with reasonable comfort.  I was about 6-2 and 240# and didn't feel too cramped on the GS.  We did 400 mile days in about 8 hours travelling 70-75 mph on freeways.

I did the trips thru 03 with soft luggage but put a 33L Givi trunk on the 02 for the 04 trip and wouldn't leave home again without one now, clothes remained high and dry in monsoon like rains in the Givi, a constant battle with the elements with the soft luggage.  I used my smaller Spitfire shield in the 02-04 years and it was all I needed for higher speed freeway travel but didn't give the rain protection my big winter NC Plexi 2 shield gives that I left on for the 01 trip.

Every time I see your name here Ol'kid I have to smile, my grandchildren are all over 21 now.   :icon_lol:  So if an old man like me can travel comfortably on a GS500 I don't see why a young person wouldn't be even more comfortable on one.



Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: gsJack on March 15, 2011, 05:40:20 AM
Quote from: ke7syv on March 14, 2011, 09:37:07 PM
.................I wonder if the 15 tooth I just put on would be appropriate or would a 17 be more fitting :dunno_black: I like the 15 so I might leave it until I do some serious touring..........

I had a 15T front for my trips on the 97 GS, made getting underway on steep upgrades much easier for a heavy rider.  Didn't feel the need for it on the 02 GS with it's more flexible 3 carb engine.  Wouldn't consider a 17T myself.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: zirconx on March 15, 2011, 06:39:06 AM
It will do it. Here is mine from years ago (I have an 'F' now).  This pic is from when I went to a BMW rally, I did about 1000 miles in a 3 day weekend. I would definitely get some kind of windscreen for it, you'll be much less tired at the end of the day without all that wind beating you.

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7364/gs500egivi.jpg)
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: pertt-UP- on March 15, 2011, 11:22:43 AM
I think I haven't done more than 200km trips yet. The only problem I can see is the vibration around 6000rpm while driving 100km/h at sixth gear that makes my fingers tingle..

(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010%5C07%5C24%5Cbikepics-2025178-800.jpg) (http://bikepics.com/pictures/2025178/)
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: The ol_kid on March 15, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Well Fella's Sounds good, I'm doing it either way, With whatever gear I can afford! Looking at a cortech 14L tank for the first bit, then go for some saddle bags down the road. So I'm planning to do about 3 or fo
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: The ol_kid on March 15, 2011, 11:52:03 AM
Well Fella's it sounds like a solid deal then, I'm doing these tour regardless of the gear I obtain. I'm picking up a Cortech 14L from Royal Distributing to kick of the series of tours around Nova Scotia. Until I move onto multi-province touring. It's happening one way or another.
-ol'Kid
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: madjak30 on March 15, 2011, 11:53:56 AM
I'm picking up a tank bag and looking at a bike rack for the rear...I already have a backpack (an assortment actually)...that should be enough for me to go on a weekend tour...anymore than that and I will need more luggage, so for now...weekenders...

Later.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: mister on March 15, 2011, 12:00:00 PM
6000rpm in 6th at 100kph? Should only be sitting around 5000rpm in 6th at 100kph. 6000rpm in 6th is more like 120kph with stock sprockets.

People keep saying to get a screen. I don't know, maybe the air is thinner down here or something, but I've never thought "wish I had a screen" when riding.  :dunno_black: I even took the screen off my Honda 919 cause it was sending all the wind to my helmet and the windnoise was terrible.

I think the biggest thing to touring is getting used to spending a good bit of time in the saddle. If all you've done is 20 minute rides, a 500km day will fatigue you no end. If you can handle an hour, stretch it to 90 minutes. Once you can handle that, do a few one hour stints with 15 minute breaks. So for a day, do four one hour stints and call it a day. This way your body gets used to riding for a larger number of hours in the day. Your arms, legs and back muscles will tank you.

Even still, it pays to make micro movements while riding such distances. Put your toes on the pegs and do tippytoe. Put your heels on and raise your toe in the air and then point your toes down. Try other legs movements too - Before you start to feel like you need it. Sit slightly to the left for a few minutes, then slightly to the right - to give your arms and back different angles for the muscles.

Clothing also. For mine, wear soft cotton boxers - similar to flannel material - or like TT suggests, bicycle shorts. Mesh jacket with removable linings for greatest flexibility for temperature comfort - if it's a multi day ride and you're unsure of the weather.

Michael
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: gsf500RR on March 15, 2011, 01:22:42 PM
It work fine but don't forget to check the oil level regularly or you engine will die.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: sotomoto on March 15, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
Gs is a capable touring bike. But cannot go with 180-200 km/h.
I have all kappa stuff like windshield, panniers, top box and i plan to get a tank bag...

As mentioned, checking the oil level is critical---good to have somewhere with you 1 litre of oil.

(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad44/citygs/IMG_0789.jpg)
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: simon79 on March 15, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
Sotomoto, is that a Kappa Monolock K35N top box I can see on your bike?
Looks exactly like mine save for the rear reflectors (mine are white).

And, what windshield model is it? Do you find it effective?
I just installed a Givi (Kappa's sister brand) A660, which looks quite like yours. Haven't had chance to test it yet.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: sotomoto on March 15, 2011, 02:49:17 PM
Quote from: simon79 on March 15, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
Sotomoto, is that a Kappa Monolock K35N top box I can see on your bike?
Looks exactly like mine save for the rear reflectors (mine are white).

And, what windshield model is it? Do you find it effective?
I just installed a Givi (Kappa's sister brand) A660, which looks quite like yours. Haven't had chance to test it yet.


Yes Simon, this is the k35 top box with kappa racks an the windshield is the KA660, i think it's the same thing with your's.
And very good panniers too, kappa TK714.

As for the windshield, it makes great difference, you will notice that for sure. It keeps wind away from chest and makes bike more stable on highways. For me it's ok at the moment... enjoy it!!!
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: simon79 on March 15, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
Sotomoto - Thanks a lot!
Glad to hear you're happy with it. Hope it'll be for me too.
Yes the KA660 is definitely one and the same with the Givi A660.
Just for comparison's sake - Could you please tell me what's your height?
I'm 181 cm (5' 11'').
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: sotomoto on March 15, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
I am 1.75 and the wind hits on the upper part of my helmet, but it depends on the riding style-if i aproach a little more the handlebars, no wind at all on helmet...

Check it. i believe you will have no problem. You can also put the windshield a little bit higher from the ''top'' of the headlight---in that way, you gain some cm of height.

I have problem when wind hits on my chest for a long time, that's why i took this shield but i love naked style too.

Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: madjak30 on March 15, 2011, 07:16:43 PM
I have a Split Fire windshield on mine and it keeps the wind off my body...my shoulders and head are in the wind (which I like), the windshield also helps to smooth out the steering and gives you somewhere to hide when you encounter rain...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_XzHeOPXAEVE/TKjy2b9IcYI/AAAAAAAAAQw/DWWz2XRGp7U/s800/DSCN0978.JPG)

I like it...

Later.
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: Pigeonroost on March 15, 2011, 07:54:05 PM
Quote from: pertt-UP- on March 15, 2011, 11:22:43 AM
I think I haven't done more than 200km trips yet. The only problem I can see is the vibration around 6000rpm while driving 100km/h at sixth gear that makes my fingers tingle..

(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010%5C07%5C24%5Cbikepics-2025178-800.jpg) (http://bikepics.com/pictures/2025178/)

Grip Puppies are absolutely GREAT for touring, nice thick foam grip pads.  Very inexpensive and very popular with touring folk like GoldWingers and such.  BullDog at www.shinopples.com has the best ones.  Even on the Gs500 I use the large size.  On the Gs stock seat, the use of bicycle shorts can help with monkey butt.

prs
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: pertt-UP- on March 16, 2011, 01:50:31 AM
Quote from: mister on March 15, 2011, 12:00:00 PM
6000rpm in 6th at 100kph? Should only be sitting around 5000rpm in 6th at 100kph. 6000rpm in 6th is more like 120kph with stock sprockets.

It's been about half a year since the last ride before winter, so I'm not sure about the speed and rpms. But the speed I like to travel causes annoying vibration to handlebars. Maybe I should check the gearing and try those Grip Puppies..
Title: Re: The GS as a Touring Machine
Post by: madjak30 on March 16, 2011, 07:29:45 AM
Quote from: pertt-UP- on March 16, 2011, 01:50:31 AM
It's been about half a year since the last ride before winter, so I'm not sure about the speed and rpms. But the speed I like to travel causes annoying vibration to handlebars. Maybe I should check the gearing and try those Grip Puppies..
Mine's the same...I'm looking into gel or foam grips or a cramp buster...my right hand goes numb after about 1.5hrs and I need to stretch the fingers and flex my hand...if I didn't have to grip and could just rest my hand, I could go longer...

Just a suggestion...

Later.