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Title: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 07, 2011, 06:41:09 AM
So they destroyed the ignition on my 07 GS500f with a screw driver, I have it in an underground parking space thats to low to get it towed. How or can i drill out the ignition and unlock the sterring and possibly start the bike.. Any help here is appreciated, Im moving out of apartment and have to have the bike out in three weeks. Thanks
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Big Rich on April 07, 2011, 06:45:07 AM
Problem is, you're basically asking how to steal a bike. Whether it's yours or not, we have no idea.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 07, 2011, 06:48:49 AM
Its a Gs500f Im asking about, mine!! its not a R1 or Gixxer etc... I cant believe someone even tried to steal it, but they did and just made a bunch of aggrevation for me. Would I really join a GSTWINS website, looking for info to steal a little GS500?? I guess its possible, but very unlikely.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Big Rich on April 07, 2011, 06:53:48 AM
Not trying to give you a hard time, just don't want to be responsible. It's a shame but it's true.

Could try calling a local locksmith or the police.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 07, 2011, 07:05:35 AM
Called the cops, and they took report but besides that not much they could do, I could go thru insurance but then rates go up and deductible is probally higher then the repair. Lock smith told me I need to take it to a bike shop, problem is I cant start it, get the steering unlocked and cant get it towed cause the damn ceiling is too low in the underground. Cant take trucks etc.. Only other option I guess I have is just try and drill it, and try cranking it with a screw driver, or a really low trailer behind someones car and maybe with a few friends we can lift it up the foot or so for trailer. Dont really know, but theives piss me off.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: zirconx on April 07, 2011, 07:15:18 AM
That sucks!  Maybe you can get some help from a friend with a pickup. Will have to lay the bike down sideways (use lots of carpet or cardboard) to fit through the parking garage. Be gentle with the fairing though, will have to be careful where you let the weight push on the bike.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: KlaXon on April 07, 2011, 07:36:22 AM
Start it you can withe the wires, but how to unlock the steering have no idea  :dunno_black:
Btw sorry about that. I hate robers  >:(
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: MysterYvil on April 07, 2011, 07:42:12 AM
Back when I was a (car) gearhead, we had a couple of dollies made of 2x4s and caster wheels.  We just cut four 24" long sections, then bolted them into a square to the wheels; took under 20 minutes and under $20 to make.

Put together (or borrow) something like that, get a friend, lift/drop the front wheel onto it and push your moto to where it can be towed/trucked.

(If your locksmith can't remove the lock cylinder on-site, I would recommend against trying to drill it yourself; you may end up damaging the ignition switch, cylinder housing, et cetera, which would add to your repair bill.)
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: sledge on April 07, 2011, 07:48:54 AM
Nothing to lose by butchering the switch in the hope the lock will free off, then its a case of hot-wiring it which on a GS5 is very simple.

If you are not keen on doing this is there anything to stop you and a mate lifting the front wheel up, sliding a skateboard underneath and duct taping the wheel to it then carefully manoeuvring the bike to a position where you can get it on a truck??

PM me if you want to know how to hot-wire it, despite it being child's play its not something to post in an open forum.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: tt_four on April 07, 2011, 09:00:07 AM
You can pull the front apart and then just take the ignition/top triple off. Just take your title with you incase the cops show up while you're tearing the bike apart.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: djkdjk07 on April 07, 2011, 09:05:13 AM
Is the front end locked into position? Just walk the bike out haha. But in all seriousness, it's a little sketchy that you are asking this... Especially since this is the only thread you have posted in.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 07, 2011, 09:48:45 AM
Just new to the site man, because of this BS with the ignition is why I found the site.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 07, 2011, 09:51:07 AM
Also the dolley idea is probally a good one, just the fact that im two stories down in the underground and the damn ramps are pretty steep might be fun pushing up them, but I might have no other choice.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Toogoofy317 on April 07, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
Well, if you do have insurance did you get road side assistance. If so just call that and let the tow company deal with it! It is their job at that point to get it out. Flick was officially dead yesterday called Progressive and they took it to a friend's house for free. TBH that is worth $1 a month IMHO. If you filed a police report your insurance company will find out. Why not just be done with it at this point and save a lot of blood sweat and tears unless your masochist and enjoy that kind of thing. But, yea your reasoning in your post "why would anyone steal a GS" the answer is blatantlly clear because someone "tried" to steal yours! It is a terrible world we live in and you have to CYA!

Mary
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 07, 2011, 11:25:45 AM
If it was a simple call to the insurance company and all taken care of then yeah I would, but my insurance company knows and thats bot an issue, its the 500$ deductable and there is no insurance company that offers Road side assistance on motorcycles here in Canada that I have found. Also I did call a tow company, and because of depth of underground the height restriction and the steepness of the ramps they wouldnt do the job. So yes it is their job, but in this case they wont do it. Have recieved some help form some members of the forum and after work I will try and see if I can get it out. Thanks to everyone for their advise.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: seamax on April 07, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
If you have like three, four or five friends come you can semi wheelie it out. Two guys lift up the front and turn while the others help support and push. Wet weight is about ~400 lbs?
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Yuri. on April 07, 2011, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: seamax on April 07, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
If you have like three, four or five friends come you can semi wheelie it out. Two guys lift up the front and turn while the others help support and push. Wet weight is about ~400 lbs?
That's the dry weight, with all other stuff, and the tank full, should be around 450.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: juicecustoms on April 07, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
Do the dolly idea but have a freind hook up a tow rope to the front forks and slowly pull it up to the street useing another vehicle....
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Twisted on April 07, 2011, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: juicecustoms on April 07, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
Do the dolly idea but have a freind hook up a tow rope to the front forks and slowly pull it up to the street useing another vehicle....

Uh....say what?  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: juicecustoms on April 07, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
He said it is underground and would need to be pushed up the parking ramps to get it to street level. Instead of having to push it use a vehicle to pull it while someone holds the bike up...
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: TCARZ on April 07, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
Jeff, please let us know how it turns out. What an epic event. Hope everything turns out ok.
I'm gonna guard my GS like it was a a a Bimmer or somethin!  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: BadgerBiker on April 07, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
I park my GS next to my roommates beemmer. That's my security.  I'm looking forward to having a garage again soon though, its nerve racking to park out where anybody with some motivation and muscle can grab it. Or mess it up with a screwdriver apparently
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: burning1 on April 07, 2011, 07:23:41 PM
My GS500 doesn't have an ignition. Generally disconnect the negative cable on the battery.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Twisted on April 07, 2011, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: juicecustoms on April 07, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
He said it is underground and would need to be pushed up the parking ramps to get it to street level. Instead of having to push it use a vehicle to pull it while someone holds the bike up...

Sorry I misread and thought you said to tow the bike down the street with another vehicle.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Cosimo_Zaretti on April 08, 2011, 12:36:21 AM
I doubt the OP is asking how to steal a bike, Only someone who didn't want to do further damage to their bike would ask what do with a partially broken lock.  A thief would just finish the job.

I have a bike with no steering lock, it was busted long before the bike came to me.  Nobody's ever tried to steel my beaten up old GS, although a few people have moved it cos it was in their way.  In my first few weeks of riding I tended to forget my keys, and I left it in the city a few times with the keys still in it and people still ignored it.  I've broken that habit fortunately.  Unless you have a much nicer example than me, I can't see why anyone would touch it.

Getting a dolly under the front wheel would be my pick but you might be able grab a strong friend and see if you can lift the whole front end with one of you on each handlebar, if it's possible you can then get a third friend to push from the back while the two of you walk along with the front raised.  I've seen youtube footage of three guys grabbing a disclocked bike off the street and shoving it in a van doing this, they ignore the steering and disc locks and just get on with it.  I have no idea how hard it is to lift the front of a GS between two people, especially with the lock on, but it might be worth a shot.

I'm trying to picture how low this ceiling is, could you get a pickup truck or a van down in there?  That might save you dragging the thing up a steep basement ramp.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 08, 2011, 04:21:48 AM
No, its a terrible design. The roof is so low that there are signs posted no trucks or vans allowed, there are also many water pipes that hang below the roof, when i was able to ride the bike out, if I was to lift up off the seat I would take my head off. I drive a little Dodge caliber and my attena hits every pipe when coming or going.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Cosimo_Zaretti on April 08, 2011, 08:35:54 AM
I had to google what a Dodge Caliber is, I'd never seen one in Australia.  It looks like a fairly solid vehicle, do you have a tow bar?  If you can sort out a tow vehicle, then you just need to rent a box trailer for a couple of hours and find some ratchet straps.

If you end up attaching the bike to a ute or trailer, you may benefit from a thread I posted a couple of years ago when I first got my bike license.  http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/f14/securing-bike-ute-86849/ (http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/f14/securing-bike-ute-86849/).  There's some good replies in it on how to secure a bike.

Your other possibilities are pulling the steering lock out, or seeing if a local mechanic is prepared to make a house call.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: werase643 on April 08, 2011, 09:06:55 AM
why not just remove the top tripple and take it(the top tripple) to your bike shop and have them replace the ign switch in the top tripple
takes about 10-20 min to remove the top tripple
yes, you will have 2 keys   saves a tow bill

or buy an ign switch
and have a locksmith make a house call to replace the ign switch
if he/she is half a$$ed good he/she can make the tank and seat lock match the ign sw for more money
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Cosimo_Zaretti on April 08, 2011, 09:36:14 AM
Or go to a wrecker and buy the ignition switch, seat lock, tank cap and keys from the same bike.  They often turn up on ebay as a set.  That's probably what you'll end up doing once you've managed to get it home.

Hunt around the second hand market for something like this.  http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-GS500F-2004-model-Complete-Lock-Set-/390303260081?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5adfe31db1 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-GS500F-2004-model-Complete-Lock-Set-/390303260081?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5adfe31db1)

Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 08, 2011, 09:50:59 AM
Alot of good ideas and now I just got to make one work, Wish people would just leave other peoples stuff alone.. but I guess that wishful thinking. One way or the other, Im getting it out of there sunday.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 11, 2011, 05:45:04 AM
Well I got her out, actually tied a couple skate boards to the front and rear tire and myself and three mates pushed her out. it sucked, but its done. Got it to my new place, now need to get it fixed, but at least its out of the dungeon.
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: TCARZ on April 11, 2011, 07:56:36 PM
Glad to see she's finally home. Good luck with the repair and keep in touch.  :bstar:
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: Toogoofy317 on April 11, 2011, 08:40:26 PM
Don't be suprised if your insurance still goes up :whisper:  Isn't Progressive in Canada  :dunno_black: at the very least try to get AAA or something. Geeze even AT&T has roadside assistance with the cell phone plans.

While I understand that the OP was not trying to steal his bike if you put the information out readily it takes a crook 5 sec to google it. I'm all for making it harder on them even if that means I gotta carry more insurance with lower deductible because I can't hotwire a bike. Which is kinda easy if you can get a certain part off and the fork isn't locked.

Glad you got what you needed.

Mary
Title: Re: Help, someone tried to steal bike and and I cant use my key.
Post by: GSjeff500f on April 12, 2011, 06:17:33 AM
No progressive aint in Canada, Insurance rates dont change unless I put in a claim. Plus the home I bought actually put me at a lower rate cause its a better area then the apartment I had and the underground that made things so difficult moving the bike. Might look into CAA for the possibility i could need a tow at some point in the future. Just glad its at the house and in the garage and can really try and get it repaired now.