Hey guys,
I'd like to see how much interest there is in installing rearsets on our bikes.
I've been looking into the issue, and it looks like building adaptor plates for the 2006-2010 GSX-R 600s would be an ideal solution. The adapter plates would replace items #1 and #2 in the GSX-R 600 fiche (http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/Motorcycle/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/47/Year/2006/ModelID/7539/Model/GSXR-600/GroupID/357045/Group/FOOTREST_) (see link) and allow installation of OEM GSX-R 600 rearsets, or any after-market rear-set that relies on OEM adjuster plates.
I think this would be an ideal solution for a few reasons...
1. The 06-10 GSX-Rs are fairly recent, and incredibly common bikes. OEM rearsets are readily available, and after-market rear-sets should be readily available for the foreseeable future.
2. Taking this approach should minimize any one-off parts. Since the adjuster brackets can be built to strong standards, they shouldn't break, and finding crash replacements for the OEM parts should be trivial.
3. This approach minimizes tooling costs, and the resulting product should be relatively economical.
4. This approach maximizes choice. You could use OEM rearsets for a more relaxed riding position, or install wood-craft rear-sets if you want something racy.
I'd like to build this as a kit solution, providing the plates and either a parts list necessary to mount the rear-sets up to your GS, or a full package, where you simply need to order whatever rear-sets you'd like installed.
In order to proceed, I'd need to resolve the following issues:
1. Compatibility between the GS500 rear Master Cylinder, and the GSX-R master cylinder (if it's a bolt on upgrade, awesome. Otherwise, we may need to find GSX-R M/Cs.)
2. Compatibility between the GS500 brake light switch, and the GSX-R brake light switch (worst case, either disconnect the brake lights, or use a banjo-bolt switch.)
3. Compatibility between the GSX-R 600 shift linkage and the GS500 shift lever. It's unlikely that the stock lever will be long enough.)
I believe the above issues would be fairly easy to resolve.
This design should be 100% compatible with OEM, Woodcraft, and Bohemian Racing rear-sets. I can research if it will be compatible with Vortex rear-sets. If so, these plates would replace the Vortex adjuster plates, which may create ergonomic issues, and will certainly reduce the adjustment range compared to what vortex offers.
Let me know what you think, what you would like to see (esp regarding ergonomics.)
If there is interest, would you be willing to put down a deposit to help cover initial design and tooling costs?
Actually, there is one more issue. The GSX-R 600 uses a different style shift lever/linkage than we do on our GS500. I'd need to find some sort of a solution for use with the GS. The GSX-R 600 uses a shift lever attached to a pivot point that's mounted to the engine casing, instead of one that rotates around the footpeg. It's very possible that the OEM GSXR rearsets will work perfectly with our shift levers, and that we could procure a few woodcraft parts from a compatible kit to make linkage shifters for the appropriate bikes.
I'll look further into the matter.
Maybe this info will help you.
Gimbel uses a banjo bolt pressure switch made by Hella. I don't know who makes the actual banjo the switch goes on, but I sus[ect it is a stock part from someone.
For the shifter, they used to use a stock Suzuki part but that part must not be available anymore as the set I just got has their own cusrtom made lever that goes on the shifter shaft. I was thinking you could use the brake lever if it is splined the same and the shaft is the same size. Whiel it has 2 levers on it, you could cut one off. Raask uses what appears to be a stock lever for the shifter. Looking at different bikes, I'm sure there is a stock part that can go on the shifter shaft.
I have installed a Gimbel set on Junior. The Gimbel set and Raask set shown here have not been installed bvut one will go on Trey. I have not installed a Raask set yet but it appears they use the existing brake switch.
Raask is the part on the left. Gimbel on the right
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Assorted/DSC00918a.jpg)
I'm interested. Will help if needed.
Would be appreciated.
My thought is to build adapter plates so that a set of stock GSX-R 600 rearsets would sit at the stock GS500 height in the forward top position. That would permit riders to adjust the pegs up and back, or down slightly.
Would probably permit use of the stock GS500 shift lever as well, and free up cornering clearance in all cases - the GS500 pegs are very thick, and have a huge amount of rubber padding.
jack plates would be a good idea instead of fabricating a complete rear set
there are many complications in coming up with a good design that others will buy....
and
retail will be cost prohibitive to the masses of GS owners
only a nutter will put a $400-600 set of foot pegs on a $1000 bike
so
a set of jack plates and a M/C relocating plate to use a GS M/C on a GSXR rear set would be a doable concept
and can probably be done reasonably affordable
Any news on these?
If you're only interested in replacing the big rubber pegs with aluminum ones, they are available stock items. Buy the mount then whatever type of peg you want to put on it. I chose round aluminum. They do swing up like stock pegs. Passenger or driver. In photos of Junior, you'll see them as the passenger pegs (even though he has a solo seat right now)
(http://gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/21426/normal_IMGP1012a.JPG)
Lots of stuff going on, and not a lot of progress. First step will be to pick up a set of GSX-R footpegs to check for clearance issues, and work out the positioning. Once I have that done, we need to design the relocator plates. I could probably whip out a set of measurements based on our stock GS500 mounts and the stock GSX-R locator plates.
FWIW, I do need to get this done sometime in the near future. The stock GS500 footpegs really don't provide the kind of security I need on the track, and the cornering clearance is becoming a real problem.
Mass-hole... If I get you the dimensions, could you produce a CAD drawing that I can send to a local machine shop?
if he doesn't have time, i could definitely draft up something for ya in autocad
I really appreciate the offers. :)
I bit the bullet and put some money into buying a set of GSX-R 600 rearsets. I'll measure everything up when I have a chance, and deliver the measurements. Hopefully we can get a few whipped out by a CNC shop for a reasonable price.
Actually... The GSX-R parts just came in. Nice pieces. I'll probably post up a thread asking what people are interested in as far as ergonomics go. IMO though, again... Something close to stock would probably be a good starting place. The GSX-R rearsets will add some adjust-ability, cut some weight, add some bling, improve cornering clearance, add feel, and security (they are not rubber coated.) Stock position will also help avoid the need to modify the shifter.
I figure for us racers who want a really aggressive position, we can spend a few extra bucks to buy a set of Woodcrafts or Bohemian Racing resarsets, and do a linkage conversion.
Sorry for not getting back to you on this. I can still help with some drawings if you need it.
I would be interested in this project too.
shawn
Im so interested!
Even though im short (5'8), I feel cramped. id like to be back a little bit more!
I may try to pick up some of the GSX-R rear set adjusters and rearsets from a motorcycle parts place around here to see what I can do. I dont know how close they would be to fitting the stock positioning but I should be able to figure it out and either make a file to punch two new holes or a file to make a whole new mount.
Are the angles on the mounting holes going to be outta whack? I know the holes for the GS footrests are slightly offset with the top hole being more towards the tail of the bike if i recall.
Mass-hole, if you like I can send you the GSX-R rearsets I purchased for this project. Unfortunately, I haven't made much progress; too much going on, bike is in storage, and I'm recovering from a nasty crash riding it at the track.
Glad to hear your alright!
Sure if you would like me to keep working on this I can do that. Ill send you a PM with the address. Did u also get some of the mounting brackets that your referred to as part #'s 1 & 2 in fiche in the 1st post?
Those damn mounting brackets for the rearsets are expensive!
I have a complete... Left? Rearset. The right one is missing the bracket, but I suspect it's more or less identical to the left. You can find em cheap on ebay, too. (~$5)
I found a bunch of the rearsets, but none seem to have the mounting brackets with them, just the rearset itself with the foot peg. There was a nice set that came with the master cylinder and caliper and everyhtign but its not buynow and has 2 days left. Im gunna watch and wait.
Are the GSX-R 750 Rears sets the same?
EDIT: NVM They are the same
Picked up a left rearset on EBay with the adjustable mounting bracket, so I will at least be able to start looking at the correct mounting for the GS.