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Title: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on April 30, 2011, 01:09:43 AM
My restrictions are finally off, so I can get a new bike. Doing some test rides and trying out as many bikes as I can get to. Will put up a list of the bike i want to test ride and cross them off when I ridden them. Didn't get to do much today because I worked in the morning, so won't have a chance to try any more for another week. Second weekend of test riding, added some more.

Kawasaki Z750 - This bike doesn't fit me. The position is OK, but the tank and frame stick out where my legs are. Like it, but I wouldn't be able to ride it more than 20 minutes.
Kawasaki Z1000 - Might not even test ride one of these. Between the 1000cc engine and digital tacho, I probably wouldn't buy one.
Honda CB1000R - It's got a bit of power  :icon_twisted:. The bike fits me perfectly. The suspension is a bit stiffer than I'm used to, didn't feel confidant that the wheels would stay on the ground around the corners. Power didn't give me a problem. Driving behind cars I had no problem accelerating with them. But, leaving the lights with no one in front of me had me at the speed limit (80km/h) before I shifted. Didn't like the digital tacho (I'm used to digital speedo's).
Suzuki GSR750 - Suzuki have delayed the GSR750 (as told by the dealership), it may not be released this year. Stupid earthquake/tsunami.
Yamaha FZ8N - Test rode a white one with gold wheels and an aftermarket exhaust. Very nice bike. Good engine, with more than enough power. Like the suspension on it, not really soft but handle the bumps and such very well. Depending on how the GSR750 is, this will probably be the bike I buy. Funny thing abut riding it, the trade plate 1 had a L-plate 2cable tied onto it, so I got a lot of weird looks. Can get one for AU$99 a week, with full insurance and no trade in or deposit. This is the only bike on the short list.
Yamaha FZ1N - Same trade plate as the FZ8N, so still got the looks. Tested the FZ1S, but pretty much the same. Didn't like it as much as the FZ8N. Power was same as the CB1000R, a quick roll on test from 40 to 100km/h in second gear had me laughing under my helmet. I should not buy one. I can just imagine the news the first night I own one. Ahh Ahhh Chooo, "police are looking for a motorcyclist seen going approximately 150km/h in an 80 zone, please call crime stoppers if you have any details". The suspension was also a lot stiff than the 8, so all up didn't enjoy the bike as much.
Triumph Street Triple -
Triumph Speed Triple - This thing has some power. When I say some, I mean lots. Also all of it appears to be just off idle. It really feels slow when you get higher up in the revs. After 6500 or so your just wasting time.
Suzuki GSXR750 - I love naked bikes, only tested this to see what all the fuss was about. Wasn't comfortable to ride, although I did like the pegs position. Power was all in the top end. It was OK between 4k and about 8k where I kept it most of the time. Above that there was a fair bit of power, but could only get to it in first on the road. All up, not that impressive for a road bike.
Harley XL883L - Found the reason they call them super lows, the thing could barely corner. Plus the midset pegs kept catching my jeans. Only tried it for the engine, but wasn't that impressed.
Harley XL1200X - I like this bike. Was surprised that the foward controls fit me really well. The exhaust had been gutted, so it's sound was tradtional offencive Harley. The bars felt right. I could actually see with the mirrors, unlike just looking at my shoulders. Price for the bike is $18000 with a six month wait.

1 - Trade plates are reserved for dealers, they can be swapped between any bike you choose. Only real condition is that the bike must be something close to roadworthy.
2 -  L-plates are learner plates, when you have capacity and power to weight restrictions. The GS500 is very close to the limit of learner bikes.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: tt_four on April 30, 2011, 05:22:44 AM
Good choice of bikes, I'm definitely intrigued by those gsr750s. Haven't  heard anything about them yet.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Twisted on April 30, 2011, 06:24:06 AM
You gonna have a ride on a Speed or Street Triple?
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on April 30, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
GSR600? SV1000? Maybe you might fall in love with Honda's new-ish CB1100  :dunno_black:

900 Hornet? R6? R1? FZ1? ZX9? Daytona?

Are you after a NEW bike or a new-to-you pre-loved bike?

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on April 30, 2011, 01:28:48 PM
The local dealer doesn't do GSR600's. Also don't like faired bike much, if I did get one it would be turned into a street fighter. The CB1100  is interesting, but I don't like the look of them. The dealer does jave a few of them, one with a few modifications including whitewall tyres.

The GSR750 should be gettting to the dealer in about three weeks, they are going to call me when it's ready for a ride.

I'm probably going to buy new, the second hand bike's don't cost much less than new (on Canberra at least).
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: tt_four on April 30, 2011, 08:09:51 PM
They're all great bikes, but I bet the Triumphs are a few steps ahead of the rest, with the Z1000 following close behind.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Twisted on May 01, 2011, 04:41:35 AM
Doesn't look like there is any Triumph dealers in Canberra. Way to go nations capital  :icon_neutral:
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on May 01, 2011, 04:49:31 AM
Eurotune Queanbeyan. Close enough to Canberra.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Twisted on May 01, 2011, 04:53:45 AM
You gonna take a trip over that way? :dunno_black:
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on May 01, 2011, 05:11:48 AM
What's wrong with Queanbeyan? It's pretty much a suburb of Canberra, apart from being in another state.

Just remembered, John McGraph Ford does Aprillia, Moto Guzzi and Triumph, but they ren't really a bike shop.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on May 01, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
Quote from: lucifer_mr2 on May 01, 2011, 05:11:48 AM
What's wrong with Queanbeyan?

It's cold - relatively speaking, of course.  :thumb:

Have you considered a trip to Syd to have a look? It ain't far.

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on May 06, 2011, 11:11:44 PM
I don't like Sydney, only thing I go to Sydney for is passing through on my way to Newcastle.

Also test rode a few Yamaha's today, see first post to see what I thought of them
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on May 06, 2011, 11:54:58 PM
Bandit 1250?
XJR 1300?

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Shaddow on May 09, 2011, 05:47:36 PM
Except Newcastle sucks for buying bikes which is why Sydney can be better to look in for a deal.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on May 13, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
I'm in Sydney next week, but won't be able to get near a bike dealership. Anyway, I only go to Newcastle for family.

Also, bit of an update in the first post. Don't think I'll be testing the XJR1300 and Bandit, the 800's are enough for me.

Doing a bit of research, with the FZ8N. I can get the bike for nearly $1400 cheaper by sourcing my own finance and insurance, turns out the dealers options are pretty bad. Maybe closer $5000 (over 5 years) if I don't bother with loan.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on May 13, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
Quote from: lucifer_mr2 on May 13, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
I'm in Sydney next week, but won't be able to get near a bike dealership. Anyway, I only go to Newcastle for family.

Also, bit of an update in the first post. Don't think I'll be testing the XJR1300 and Bandit, the 800's are enough for me.

Doing a bit of research, with the FZ8N. I can get the bike for nearly $1400 cheaper by sourcing my own finance and insurance, turns out the dealers options are pretty bad.

The Bandit and XJR are not race class bikes. They are more powerful sport tourers when set up, and naked sport when not set up. They won't pop a wheelie or have you losing your license with a rush for speed - even though they can be ridden as such. Their ergonomics generally sees them ridden more sedately.

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: ryott52 on May 14, 2011, 10:02:17 AM
Have you tried the BMW K1300R? I'm dying to ride one but they don't sell them in the US.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on June 24, 2011, 10:45:26 PM
After the last few rides to the coast and such, I'm thing of buying a cruiser now. Like the look of some of the Harley's, which really did surprise me. The XL1200X (48) really fits me well.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on June 24, 2011, 11:44:23 PM
Quote from: lucifer_mr2 on June 24, 2011, 10:45:26 PM
After the last few rides to the coast and such, I'm thing of buying a cruiser now. Like the look of some of the Harley's, which really did surprise me. The XL1200X (48) really fits me well.

Add the Triumph America to your list. Possibly a Honda Shadow too. I've found both to be comfy, while preferring the Triumph.

I know a couple guys with an M109 who swear by them. A couple on C50s who love them, while one loves it since he put a riders back rest on it.

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on June 24, 2011, 11:54:51 PM
I did look at the Triumph America, there was an older one at one of the dealerships with saddle bags. Looked good. Not a real fan of the Honda's. I prefer the look of the belt/chain drives with disk brakes. And if I end up getting a cruiser, looks will be very important.

I ride with they guys with M109R's, they love them. Watching 400kgs of bike light the rear wheel up around a round about is interesting. But those guys really know how to handle a bike.

I must say. I was very suprised with the Harley dealership. Very good customer service, friendly, plenty of information and very upfront about waiting time on the bikes.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Twisted on June 25, 2011, 12:28:10 AM
If you want a good looking bike have a look at the Triumph Thruxtons.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on June 25, 2011, 04:06:54 AM
The W800 is also a nice bike to ride. Feels a little like the GS but still noice  :thumb:

Have you thought about a VStrom? Or a BMW F800R - sounds good, 86 hp but man the thing can go.

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on June 25, 2011, 05:19:42 AM
I might look at them, but in reality I was really impressed by the Harley 48.

Riding along it was nice and smooth, but stop at the lights and it's shaking away. Didn't do too badly around the corners either, felt stable and turned in easily. Liked the switches on them as well, the self cancelling indicators were great. Turns out I really like the foot forward riding position. First time I had riden a bike like that and it was just natural. $500 now and the rest when it arrives and I can get one for Christmas. Only thing I will need to be careful of it the range, only got about 130km or so from them, a bigger tank would be on the list of things to get.

Will just have to work out how to come out to my mates.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: ghostrider_23 on June 25, 2011, 05:35:27 AM
Go with what you like not what other people think is cool. My first bike was an 84 Harley Roadster XLS. Yeah it was cool and fun at the time not riding with a helmet or any gear. I ended up selling it back in 98 because I didn't really ride it that much and it wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be.

This year about 4 months ago I bought an 09 GSF500 and hotdog, man this thing is fun!!!! I have rode more with the GS than I did with the Harely in these last 4 months. Can't image going riding without my helmet (even though I've try) and love my gear.

Point being, go with what "gives you a tent" or like. There will always be a bike forum of some sort, bike club and people who will and won't judge you so do what makes you the happiest.

I have a saying, "Live your life to the fullest. Take time to enjoy everyday. Don't get caught up in the little things. There comes a time when life stops given and begins to start taking."
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: tykho on June 25, 2011, 06:25:41 AM
You're trying a nice variety of bikes, shopping for a new one is always fun. If you get a chance and see a nice one, try out a 954RR, it's by far the most comfortable supersport I've ridden on, and the powerband is great. Plenty of power throughout the entire range. And they look freaking sick  :)
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on June 25, 2011, 12:32:49 PM
To add to ghost's comment... YOU need to be comfortable on the bike too. Uncomfortable bike means reluctance to ride. Means, no more riding but a nice looking machine in the garage.

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on June 26, 2011, 01:46:51 AM
Looking around on the net at newish second hand Sportsters. Looks like I can get a Nightster for about $14000. Change the rego for about $1000. Add forward controls for about $500. All up around $15500 (plus insurance at about $700/year) without any waiting time. Plus some of them come with a few aftermarket bits (plus the stock).
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Twisted on June 27, 2011, 12:57:00 AM
Do they make the irons in 1200cc. They look great all matt black.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on June 27, 2011, 03:31:41 AM
Sort of, it's called the Nightster. Only this year is the last for them, and they've all been sold (last week ago). There might be some minor details between them, apart from the engine, but in reality they are the same.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on June 27, 2011, 03:44:28 AM
Quote from: lucifer_mr2 on June 27, 2011, 03:31:41 AM
Sort of, it's called the Nightster. Only this year is the last for them, and they've all been sold (last week ago). There might be some minor details between them, apart from the engine, but in reality they are the same.

Have you tried...

Bundaberg Motorcycles
Brisbane Motorcycles
Express Motorcycles

I think you'll have some luck with them...

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: ryott52 on June 27, 2011, 06:35:04 AM
Quote from: lucifer_mr2 on June 27, 2011, 03:31:41 AM
Sort of, it's called the Nightster. Only this year is the last for them, and they've all been sold (last week ago). There might be some minor details between them, apart from the engine, but in reality they are the same.

So just pick up a sporty and a couple cans of black spraypaint, then you've got a nightster on the cheap and nobody'll be the wiser.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Twisted on June 29, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
Went to the motorcycle dealer a block from my house and guess what was in the lot?

http://www.justauto.com.au/dealer/expressmotorcycles/for-sale/45f5cc4e-0c89-4aca-ba27-6428a1a0d8df

Looks great with all the matt black.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on June 30, 2011, 03:15:45 AM
Quote from: Twisted on June 29, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
Went to the motorcycle dealer a block from my house and guess what was in the lot?

http://www.justauto.com.au/dealer/expressmotorcycles/for-sale/45f5cc4e-0c89-4aca-ba27-6428a1a0d8df

Looks great with all the matt black.

Yup. That's why I suggested them. All three I suggested have Nighsters. So they Are available. Shipping interstate can be arranged through Bikes Only - or hop a cheap flight after the volcanic ash settles and ride it home  :thumb: :thumb:

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on June 30, 2011, 03:34:15 AM
Tempting. I far to busy for the next few weeks to start looking at bikes for a bit. Spending a week kicking around the Sydney Olympic park.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on July 10, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
Well looked at more bikes over the weekend, really narrowed the search down a bit. I think I've found the bike I will buy.

It's a Nightster, second hand, but looks better than the bikes on the showroom at the dealership (not even joking). Fitted with easily $4000 worth of aftermarket goodies, but also got all the original stuff with the sale. They couple have three bikes and are selling the smallest as it doesn't get ridden any more. A little more expensive than some of the other bikes, but no extra costs like rego establishment fees.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: mister on August 16, 2011, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: lucifer_mr2 on July 10, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
Well looked at more bikes over the weekend, really narrowed the search down a bit. I think I've found the bike I will buy.

It's a Nightster, second hand, but looks better than the bikes on the showroom at the dealership (not even joking). Fitted with easily $4000 worth of aftermarket goodies, but also got all the original stuff with the sale. They couple have three bikes and are selling the smallest as it doesn't get ridden any more. A little more expensive than some of the other bikes, but no extra costs like rego establishment fees.

So did you end up getting it?

Michael
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: lucifer_mr2 on February 01, 2015, 03:01:43 AM
Holy thread revival!!!

Didn't end up with the Nightster. Can't even remember why. Ended up with a 48. Brand new. Now got 50,000 miles on it. Modified tastefully. Loving it. Has been through hell though. Belting around the dirt with adventure riders. Crashed a few time (rear ended). Taken halfway across the country. Great bike.

Still have my GS, but might get around to selling it. Even though I've been loving riding it this weekend.

(https://scontent-a-nrt.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/1607075_10152111678740100_1286613370_n.jpg?oh=1f6b6a44531d54dbefc5a01f4ae7ccf6&oe=554C44CD)
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Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: FirstGS500E on February 01, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
The only Harley I have interest in is the xr1200x. I really like the euro sport touring style of that bike.  They're hard to find here in the states and I don't even think they make them at all here now. I'm still set on my next bike being a yamaha fz6. I haven't got to test ride it yet but the one I sat on at the dealership feels just right. It's used and set up for touring real nice. $4,000 though w 50k miles. Still hunting for a better priced one.
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on February 01, 2015, 01:49:35 PM
I am thinking about going to the darkside with a Boulevard M50 or M90?

(http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Boulevard%20M50/2015/~/media/A17685809DAE4766A706F3379287D0C1.ashx?h=344)
Title: Re: lucifer search for a new bike
Post by: MeeLee on February 01, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
I've always been eyeballing a Honda CN700X or a CN750x.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HQ6xcUEnVwo/T_rxbpYGLSI/AAAAAAAADfo/J-hT-Vtecks/s1600/hondanc700_1.jpg)

Comfort ride, Power enough for highways, and low revving (about as good of Mpg a 750cc can get stock...