I'm looking at at 90gs500 that needs to be fixed up. he is asking for $450
Doesn't have a title but has a bill of sale, but asking for the VIN so I can at least look up the status at the DMV.
From what he tells me it needs.
Hoses to be reinstalled to the carbs (not sure if its' unplugged or it's just gone)
clutch level
fuel cap
tank looks like theres damage...
most likely a new battery..
I'm planning to offer him 200 bucks since I will most likely need to drop more to get it back in shape. But do you even think is worth it or should I just wait and get a running one for about 5-700 bucks?
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/calculator315/photo.jpg)
In my book, no title = no sale unless you're gonna race the bike. In many places, a bill of sale will do you absolutely no good when you try to title the bike.
my $0.02....
:cheers:
Quote from: applecrew on May 01, 2011, 02:10:47 PM
In my book, no title = no sale unless you're gonna race the bike. In many places, a bill of sale will do you absolutely no good when you try to title the bike.
+1
No title no sale. His problem of getting it titled will be passed on to you. Forget this one unless you want parts or to race it.
Michael
Still worth something as a parts bike if you are trying to fix something else. Do you know the titling rules in your state? In PA and MD a bill of sale gets you no where at the DMV.
-Jessie
This bike is in California.
Don't know much about the DMV laws, that's why I wanted to get the VIN number before calling the DMV for questions.
I don't ride very often (weekend rides if work permits) so I didn't want to spend too much money on something that's going to sit there majority of the time.
I started riding on a GS500, always liked it so now I want to come back.
No title= no go
Don't be someone elses escape goat :nono:
Quote from: z315 on May 01, 2011, 02:26:14 PM
This bike is in California.
Someone else in Cali just discovered how their No Cali bike is not allowed to be re-rego in Cali due to emissions laws. That bike existed Before those laws. So I'm pretty sure you're gonna be out of luck even if it had a title.
No title
Old tech in Cali that won't allow old tech.
Parts bike only. Forget it as a riding bike. Seeing as you want to ride, forget it outright. Move on to something else.
Michael
Don't forget rear side plastics, mirrors and a new or re-upholstered seat to add to that to do list.
I never knew about the whole emissions law. So what you're saying is that I can't purchase a GS500 in California before 1990?
Quote from: z315 on May 01, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
I never knew about the whole emissions law. So what you're saying is that I can't purchase a GS500 in California before 1990?
He bought a GS500 (2004 I think) outside of CA. Tried to rego the bike in CA and was told he could not because it didn't meet the CA Emissions Laws. You Can buy GS500s in CA - BUT - they are Purpose Built for that state alone to meet the CA emissions laws. If it doesn't meet the emissions laws you cannot rego the bike. End of story. And it'd be highly doubtful a 1990 bike will meet those laws considering those laws didn't exist in 1990.
If, despite all advice NOT to get this bike with no title, you do get it - THEN - you have the insurmountable hurdle of trying to rego a bike that does NOT meet the CA Emissions Laws. Which means, you won't even be able to rego the bike and ride it on the street like you want. You will have bought a white elephant good only for parts.
Don't buy someone else's problem. Move along from this "deal".
Michael
$200 sounds about right for a parts bike that's mostly complete, doesn't run and has no title. You need a parts bike?
I would just like a budget bike for my weekends rides. Also would like to spend more on gear and try some track days. (even if I crash my wallet won't be too bruised)
An noted above, it's doubtful you will ever be able to legally ride the bike in question on the street, so it would sit and rust. I can think of better ways to spend $450 - like get some safety gear. Keep looking, you will find something (with a title!) to fit your budget.
:cheers:
I guess it comes down to your reasons? If you wanna do a rebuild project and to learn, expirement etc for $200 bucks thats pretty cheap fun and would provide a great tool for learning. But if your priority is to find a bike to ride and enjoy right away while "tinkering" here and there, GS's are a dime a dozen and at very reasonable prices to boot. I've seen mid 90's ones thats are certified and rideable right away for a ~1000. If thats your goal then I'd go that route.
In some states no title = impossible to title and worse yet, in some other states you cant even legally part it out.
NC its very very hard to title it and costs like 200+ bucks, takes 3 years, but I believe you can legally part it out.
Cool.
Buddha.
Never buy a bike without a title if you plan on riding it on the streets. PITA to get it titled.
Now a $200 parts bike, different story....
Quote from: mister on May 01, 2011, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: z315 on May 01, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
I never knew about the whole emissions law. So what you're saying is that I can't purchase a GS500 in California before 1990?
He bought a GS500 (2004 I think) outside of CA. Tried to rego the bike in CA and was told he could not because it didn't meet the CA Emissions Laws. You Can buy GS500s in CA - BUT - they are Purpose Built for that state alone to meet the CA emissions laws. If it doesn't meet the emissions laws you cannot rego the bike. End of story. And it'd be highly doubtful a 1990 bike will meet those laws considering those laws didn't exist in 1990.
If, despite all advice NOT to get this bike with no title, you do get it - THEN - you have the insurmountable hurdle of trying to rego a bike that does NOT meet the CA Emissions Laws. Which means, you won't even be able to rego the bike and ride it on the street like you want. You will have bought a white elephant good only for parts.
Don't buy someone else's problem. Move along from this "deal".
Michael
Oh sheesh ... CA does not emissions test anything on 2 wheels.
CA also does not prevent you from buying out of state, and if it has less than 7500 miles or is less than 3 years old you will just be hit with sales tax if I recall. Cars and bikes ... and no one now a days makes a 49 state bike or car or anything. These are all not real issues.
No title = parts/trash IMHO. That's it.
Cool.
Buddha.
$450 + what you'll spend to get it running & decent... I don't know how much bikes are in CA but around the midwest there are plenty of working bikes for under $1000.
Any idea when it was last registered?
When I bought my 99 about four years ago, it owed some serious back registration which I didn't find out about until I tried to register it at the DMV. Lucky for me, the family I bought it from were standup and paid for the fees they were responsible for once I showed that they were responsible for it.
And that was with a title.
It's entirely possible you'll end up owing the DMV more than you paid for the bike...
Like everyone here has said, if you want a budget bike for those weekend rides, keep looking. This is strictly a parts/race bike and only assuming you can get it for $200.
Quote from: The Buddha on May 03, 2011, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: mister on May 01, 2011, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: z315 on May 01, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
I never knew about the whole emissions law. So what you're saying is that I can't purchase a GS500 in California before 1990?
He bought a GS500 (2004 I think) outside of CA. Tried to rego the bike in CA and was told he could not because it didn't meet the CA Emissions Laws. You Can buy GS500s in CA - BUT - they are Purpose Built for that state alone to meet the CA emissions laws. If it doesn't meet the emissions laws you cannot rego the bike. End of story. And it'd be highly doubtful a 1990 bike will meet those laws considering those laws didn't exist in 1990.
If, despite all advice NOT to get this bike with no title, you do get it - THEN - you have the insurmountable hurdle of trying to rego a bike that does NOT meet the CA Emissions Laws. Which means, you won't even be able to rego the bike and ride it on the street like you want. You will have bought a white elephant good only for parts.
Don't buy someone else's problem. Move along from this "deal".
Michael
Oh sheesh ... CA does not emissions test anything on 2 wheels.
CA also does not prevent you from buying out of state, and if it has less than 7500 miles or is less than 3 years old you will just be hit with sales tax if I recall. Cars and bikes ... and no one now a days makes a 49 state bike or car or anything. These are all not real issues.
No title = parts/trash IMHO. That's it.
Cool.
Buddha.
Older GS500's DID have a California model. They had a slightly smaller gas tank and there is that extra tube off of the bottom of the tank for fuel vapors (which can be plugged up. Trey's purple tank is a CA tank, his original is not so I have seen the difference first hand). There have been past threads on the extra hose. Later years also have a US market tank and a non-for-US tank. Not sure what the difference is there.
Now as for what CA really does, I can't say. Only know it is easy to license in Washington. (Junior was originally from Canada! Speedo in KM and emissions not as strict but still no problem in WA.) Solution: Move to Washington!
OH, and $450 for a piece of junk is way too much. $200 is fair. Like others said, you can get good running bikes $1000 or less that have a good seat and all the plastics. Trey was $1000. Junior was $1100.
One of my Katanas was a California model and it had vacuum lines galore under it's bodywork, made it a pain to work on. Toyota has some federal emissions (49 state) cars, makes ordering exhaust parts tricky sometimes ;)
-Jessie