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Title: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on May 16, 2011, 03:53:02 PM
I thought it best to do a new thread now that stock adjustable levers are found (rather than clogging up older threads).
The LSL brand levers are a stock item. Unfortunately, you have to order them from Europe or Australia as the USA distributor for LSL does not carry ANY LSL levers for ANY Suzuki bike and they emailed me that they won't.
Here are these beauties.
Part numbers: 200-L03SW for clutch (kupplungshebel L03)
                   200-R17SW for brake (bremshebel R17)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/LSL%20Levers/lsl_1.jpg)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/LSL%20Levers/lsl_2.jpg)

Brake Installed
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/LSL%20Levers/lsl_3.jpg)

Clutch installed, before boot and adjustments. (Blemish on handle is grease)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/LSL%20Levers/lsl_4.jpg)

Clutch - all done and cleaned off
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/LSL%20Levers/lsl_5.jpg)

Remember - these are a stock item. No alterations required at all. Direct replacement.
Love that German engineering!
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: jeffdodge on May 16, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Love them. They look great.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: Paulcet on May 16, 2011, 06:35:34 PM
Nice! Thanks for going out on a limb to let us know what works and what doesn't.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: steezin_and_wheezin on May 19, 2011, 07:29:25 AM
these looks ridiculously good!
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on May 19, 2011, 02:40:20 PM
Got in another set for Junior.
You can order on-line from:  www.hesa-motorsport.de
http://www.hesa-motorsport.de/shop/catalog/adjustable-brake-and-clutch-levers-for-suzuki-gs-500-bandit-600650-07-p-2311.html
You email them for instructions on paying with credit card or paypal.
So there's where to get them. 168 euros for the set and 40 euros for express shipping. I'd suggest a few people go together for an order. You might get a discount and would share the shipping.
There is an Australian dealer that carries them but they never got back to me on shipping. Check the LSL web site for distributors in your country. Speigler in the USA refuses to carry any LSL levers for any Suzuki model - but carry them for a couple other brands. Hopefully LSL will get them to carry the Suzuki levers.
In a way I like ASV better (price about the same) but they don't have a clutch lever (do have brake lever) where the LSL are a direct replacement for all GS500 models 1989 to present for clutch and brake.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: ghostrider_23 on May 19, 2011, 05:51:02 PM
I am not trying to be rude, I just want to understand the main difference between the LSL and stock.

What is the purpose behind replacing the levers???

Color, grip style, or the ability to take the slack out and adjust the levers?
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on May 19, 2011, 05:59:47 PM
The shape of the levers gives a different feel. Like the seat - you like one that fits you for a more comfortable ride.
The look is really cool. Love how the levers look - really spiffs up the bike.
Adjustable levers are nice when you ride in different weather: thick or thin gloves and it helps to adjust the levers in or out for the different thickness.
If you do let someone else ride your bike, they can adjust the levers to fit their hands.
One friend rode one of my bikes and commented on how much better the feel of the levers were to his hands.
Kind of why some people like short levers verses long levers.

I guess I should also add that the high quality levers are easier to adjust. You can flick the adjuster while riding. The stock type adjustable lever you have to pull out, turn the knob then release. There is no stock adjustable clutch lever. Adjustable clutch is not really for slack - its to fit your hand. Sometimes the hands just get a little tired or cramped and adjusting the levers while riding can make a big difference.

It is all personal preference.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: ben2go on May 20, 2011, 08:31:46 PM
Nice levers.  :thumb:

The only thing that is a problem with adjustable clutch levers, is the clutch cable and clutch rod clearance.It has to be kept in adjustment,if the levers are adjust to be close to the bars.Over time the clutch wears and the cable stretches.Then you find that the clutch seems to stick when the lever is pulled in.After a while,the clutch won't release when the lever is adjusted close to the bars.Just imagine pulling in the clutch lever and the bike keeps going.All this is really a non issue if the maintenance is kept up on the bike.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on May 20, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
With the adjustable clutch lever, it only changes the lever part. The base that attaches to the cable stays like normal and you adjust the clutch like normal. Adjusting the lever part does not change the clutch adjustment - it only changes the angle of the part you have your fingers on. Think of it as the end of your clutch lever getting bent in or out a little - the pivot point where the cable attaches doesn't change.

The advantage of this is if you have big hands you can adjust the lever out and small hands or thick gloves, you can adjust it in a little so you can easily use the clutch.

Same as the adjustable brake lever - it just adjusts the position of the lever and does not change the braking.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: ben2go on May 21, 2011, 06:30:21 AM
Quote from: adidasguy on May 20, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
With the adjustable clutch lever, it only changes the lever part. The base that attaches to the cable stays like normal and you adjust the clutch like normal. Adjusting the lever part does not change the clutch adjustment - it only changes the angle of the part you have your fingers on. Think of it as the end of your clutch lever getting bent in or out a little - the pivot point where the cable attaches doesn't change.

The advantage of this is if you have big hands you can adjust the lever out and small hands or thick gloves, you can adjust it in a little so you can easily use the clutch.

Same as the adjustable brake lever - it just adjusts the position of the lever and does not change the braking.

Yes.But when the levers are adjusted close to the bars,there is not as much stroke left in the lever.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on May 21, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
Well, then I guess you don't like adjustable brake levers for the same reason.
It is all preference. If you don't want adjustable levers, then you don't have to get them. I like them, find them cool looking, have a better feel and smoother feel than stock levers (better machining at the pivot point) and find it handy to adjust them and you don't. So nothing more to say on the issue.
I provided info for those that do.
I'm now officially staying out of this thread and issue for ever. I am really not in to discussing the pros and cons of adjustable levers. I got them because I like them. I rode Junior today 20 minutes and back from aurora Suzuki to pick up bearings for Trey and for the Suzuki Owners Club monthly meeting. The LSL levers really felt nice. Smooth operation.

The rest of you are more than welcome to continue discussing the merits of them.

As I said, I am simply passing on information about what I found as a really good, direct replacement lever, which has been an issue many others have been wondering about.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: werase643 on May 21, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
i don't mean to be rude ....but hey what the heck
208 euros equals .....295 dollars   294.74 actually
you got to be frigging kiddin me

dang thing has to have a hooker attached to it for that price
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: sledge on May 21, 2011, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: ben2go on May 20, 2011, 08:31:46 PM
Nice levers.  :thumb:

The only thing that is a problem with adjustable clutch levers, is the clutch cable and clutch rod clearance.It has to be kept in adjustment

Just like the stock ones  :thumb:
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on May 21, 2011, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: werase643 on May 21, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
i don't mean to be rude ....but hey what the heck
208 euros equals .....295 dollars   294.74 actually
you got to be frigging kiddin me

dang thing has to have a hooker attached to it for that price

Agreed...
An OEM Adjustable Front Brake Lever is $61.16 @ BikeBandit (the 05" DL650 fits) having an adjustable clutch lever makes more sense for a Hydraulic Clutch, it is nice to have options though...and for that I say  :thumb:

(http://home.comcast.net/~stykers/abl01.jpg)

Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on May 21, 2011, 09:08:30 PM
Yea Steve, the OEM's are cheaper and I have a few of those around (and now a couple ASV's in the parts box). You can get after market ones even cheaper (brake only, no adjustable clutch lever availadbe)
Adjustable levers are handy - especially when jumping from one bike to another - you can quickly adjust the feel to what you're familiar with. When the other guys ride one of mine, they can adjust the levers the way they want them.

But the high end levers just look so freaking cool!

And they are easy to adjust while riding and just have a nicer feel to them.

Its the same with everything - different styles and prices for grips, lights, turn signals, TV's, computers......  You buy what you like and can afford.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: wundersitz on September 17, 2011, 06:52:11 AM
Quote from: adidasguy on May 16, 2011, 03:53:02 PM
I thought it best to do a new thread now that stock adjustable levers are found (rather than clogging up older threads).
The LSL brand levers are a stock item. Unfortunately, you have to order them from Europe or Australia as the USA distributor for LSL does not carry ANY LSL levers for ANY Suzuki bike and they emailed me that they won't.
Here are these beauties.
Part numbers: 200-L03SW for clutch (kupplungshebel L03)
                    200-R17SW for brake (bremshebel R17)
Remember - these are a stock item. No alterations required at all. Direct replacement.
Love that German engineering!

FINALLY!!! Ive been searching bloody everywhere and asking everyone for this!!  Can I ask if these fit a 2009 GS500???  Also you mention the Aussie distributor...can you recall who that is/was?  Im downunder

Thanks, you are a champ!!

cheers

Daniel
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: Stanfield on September 17, 2011, 08:14:08 AM
You spent $300 on levers for a GS?  I'm honestly speechless.  I put 2 finger adjustable levers on my gsxr that were only $75 a piece and I had a hard time justifying that.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on September 17, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
You can get  a current list of distributors from the LSL web site.
I had to order direct from Germany because the US distributor for LSL would not carry ANY of the LSL levers for ANY Suzuki bike.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: slipperymongoose on September 17, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
Those look great I might have to get a set for my beast.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: wundersitz on September 19, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: Stanfield on September 17, 2011, 08:14:08 AM
You spent $300 on levers for a GS?  I'm honestly speechless.  I put 2 finger adjustable levers on my gsxr that were only $75 a piece and I had a hard time justifying that.

Cool!   :thumb: If you can find me an adjustable clutch and brake lever for a 2009 GS500 I would be appreciative....but I dont think you will   :embarassed:
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on September 19, 2011, 05:26:39 PM
All GS levers are compatible. Get the LSL levers - they fit all models of GS500. That's what I did.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: fraze11 on September 20, 2011, 08:12:50 AM
Thanks for posting, they look great and I quite like these and was ready to buy a set from the website, until I saw the final checkout price!  It was just over $300 dollars with exhange and shipping.  Thats pretty steep for a couple of levers.  I mean in comparison, I did new front springs/oil, K&N and a rejet for HALF that  cost :o

Maybe they'll go on sale one day I'd love to get a set and the adjustment would be a nice option.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: The Buddha on September 20, 2011, 08:22:25 AM
Quote from: fraze11 on September 20, 2011, 08:12:50 AM
Thanks for posting, they look great and I quite like these and was ready to buy a set from the website, until I saw the final checkout price!  It was just over $300 dollars with exhange and shipping.  Thats pretty steep for a couple of levers.  I mean in comparison, I did new front springs/oil, K&N and a rejet for HALF that  cost :o

Maybe they'll go on sale one day I'd love to get a set and the adjustment would be a nice option.

You do know that following adidasguy's instructions leads to financial ruin right ...
And a garage full of parts wondering why you got parts for 13 gs'es and only 1 actual GS ...
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: steezin_and_wheezin on September 20, 2011, 08:28:28 AM
hahah that's for sure buddha! now that the parts bike is almost gone, its time to start putting more into the 04. these among other "adidasguy approved mods" will be purchased here shortly :thumb:

after wishing more out of my cheap set of black knock off oem levers, i can't wait to invest some money in high quality, well engineered ones. they may be a bit more than i'd like to fork out, but its only money. pay yer bills, tuck some in savings, then do what makes ya happy!
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: adidasguy on September 20, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 20, 2011, 08:22:25 AM
You do know that following adidasguy's instructions leads to financial ruin right ...
And a garage full of parts wondering why you got parts for 13 gs'es and only 1 actual GS ...
Cool.
Buddha.

Actually have 3 complete bikes, not just 1. Building a 4th with a friend for his wife. Not parts for 13 more, as it varies. Maybe 5 sets of clip ons, 20 sets of tails, 1 extra tank, and lots of screws & bolts.
Haven't reached financial ruin yet. Friends do the occasional intervention to keeps parts quantity down. Could buy abother 2004 engine for $275 but exercising restraint on this one.
Title: Re: Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers
Post by: steezin_and_wheezin on November 23, 2011, 04:13:16 PM
Hesa's sight seems to be down, or its not agreein with my computer

but i sent my first e-mail to Hesa! can't wait to get these suckers in.