some of the abuse made me cringe and cry. almsot got me angry. such as number 1
honda cub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLjnqkXNWJs&feature=related) best on youtube poll. goes from 1 to 10. 1 = best
ducati 916 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6K2CUdqURg&feature=related) number 2
cb750 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeMgEuf30G4&feature=related) number 3
y2k jet bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcGjYog3YGo&feature=related) number 4 the jay leno bike lol
triumph bonneville t100 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtzjDScUvk&feature=related) number 5
britten v1000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HhGQJ2hn8Y&feature=related) number 6
brough superior ss8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYOg8mLjruE&feature=related) number 7
vespa px125 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGuhuA2KMTA&feature=related) number 8
moto guzzi v8 race bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_7zwGFGwI&feature=related) number 9
hd knucklehead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDOVjmlCYtA&feature=related) number 10, i rode one of these with a jockeyshift through the dragon, while its graciousowner rode my gs. he actually liked it. i almost did a partial trade that day lol. wished i had
Can't believe they ran that Cub on chip oil lol. Some good bikes in there. Norton Commando should have been in there somewhere though.
it pained me to watch that cub get dropped like that. :cry: have a neighbor with a cub i restored for him. engine needed ONLY a carb cleaning and it fired on stale fuel lol :cookoo: was fun to test-ride. dangers hell yes. my motorised bicycles are dangerous. this thing went faster. and had the same type of braking power lol :cookoo: :cookoo: id want one to try a cross country ride lol
lol part of the featured video on the cubs had a kid from greece on his.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6k_5AjbW8c&feature=related
thats just typical of what Greek kids do with cubs, they are all over the place.
Does a Honda Cub or "Honda 50" or whatever they called it qualify as a motorbike?
I say put the 916 first. I love the 916, 996 and 748. There is someone who rides a yellow 748 to work everyday, such a nice bike.
I passed up the chance to buy a running T100 from the 70's years ago for $500. Was in good shape too. Im still kicking myself for that one.....
That makes me want a Honda Super Cub. It looks like a great run about for local jaunts. Able to travel over 50 mph would make it a great city bike or something to bring on our family vacations so I have something to ride. It's under 200 lbs so it could be transported on my trailer hitch cargo platform. I googled the Honda Super Cub and read that it hasn't been available in the US since 1983.
What would be the current equivalent to the Honda Super Cub here in the US? I would think some kind of 125cc scooter.
- Porkchop
@Yama was this the Discovery Channel list? (Sorry if this is explained in the videos - I cannot watch videos on dialup :mad:)
@Twism I think we all want to kick you for passing up such a deal :2guns:
I love the Cub / Super Cub. After a minibike it was the first Big bike I wanted and it's still made to this day. Think our GS has a long production run with 1989, this sucker has been made since 1958! I believe it was ridden in some movie with Cary Grant in it.
What isn't the GS500 in the list. Surely a 20+ year build history has to count for something :dunno_black:
Michael
Quote from: mister on June 01, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
@Twism I think we all want to kick you for passing up such a deal :2guns:
It was a flea market and I had no way of getting the bike home..... I could have made it work tho. I dont wanna think about it..... :cry:
Honda Cub and variants... there have been over 60 million built over the past 50 years. Making it something like the most successful, motorized personal transportation device ever.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/jamesmay/3267424/Honda-Cub-The-greatest-machine-ever.html
For reference, there were 21 million VW Bugs built. I believe the next runner up was the Model T, at 15 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T
They haven't sold these in the States in years, but they are sold virtually everywhere else in the world. I see close variants in the US... extra-long GY6 blocks with big wheels refered to as "big wheel scooters" or such, which is arguably a better design (more enclosed drivetrain with lower service requirements).
(http://www.asia.ru/images/target/photo/50125458/16__Wheel_Scooter_Model__07_New_Product_.jpg)
Closest thing here that use that Honda engine (Lifan clones anyway) are the 110cc "pit bikes" that use the same engine, knockoffs of the XR50s. Those bikes are everywhere.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 01, 2011, 12:40:44 AM
some of the abuse made me cringe and cry. almsot got me angry. such as number 1
honda cub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLjnqkXNWJs&feature=related) best on youtube poll. goes from 1 to 10. 1 = best
ducati 916 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6K2CUdqURg&feature=related) number 2
cb750 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeMgEuf30G4&feature=related) number 3
y2k jet bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcGjYog3YGo&feature=related) number 4 the jay leno bike lol
triumph bonneville t100 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtzjDScUvk&feature=related) number 5
britten v1000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HhGQJ2hn8Y&feature=related) number 6
brough superior ss8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYOg8mLjruE&feature=related) number 7
vespa px125 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGuhuA2KMTA&feature=related) number 8
moto guzzi v8 race bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_7zwGFGwI&feature=related) number 9
hd knucklehead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDOVjmlCYtA&feature=related) number 10, i rode one of these with a jockeyshift through the dragon, while its graciousowner rode my gs. he actually liked it. i almost did a partial trade that day lol. wished i had
Don't forget the Yamaha TZ750! And this is the closest I'd want to get to a scooter:
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xt125r%2005.htm (http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xt125r%2005.htm)
If that's the same list that I'm thinking of (can't watch videos either), I liked how they say the CB750 is to "reliable" so they had to put it at #3
i think what kicked the cb down was that it was "boring" our beloved gs has no spot in there. i had an old paso. i brought back from phoenix. miss that thing too :technical:
What about the old Yamaha two stroke triples?
Yeah- they were great. For paying widows the insurance money. Hence the term "widowmakers"
mister that was a cutup of the discovery channel series. honestly i didnt know it existed. i was there looking for dire straits videos. on youtube. and stumble across this. damned keyword spammers lol but this time it worked
Quote from: NickyNumbers on June 01, 2011, 03:40:35 AM
lol part of the featured video on the cubs had a kid from greece on his.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6k_5AjbW8c&feature=related
thats just typical of what Greek kids do with cubs, they are all over the place.
holy crap these things are cheap on ebay lol ( cubs)
Like the little Cub? Off to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqKi_9p1zks
and enjoy.
Quote from: ryott52 on June 03, 2011, 04:08:12 PM
What about the old Yamaha two stroke triples?
Did you mean Kawasaki? Yamaha never made a 2-stroke triple - they made twins and 4-cyl two-strokes (500/700/750). The Kawa's earned the name widow-maker... The Yamaha RD350 was known as the "giant-killer".
:cheers:
I believe you're right, my mistake.
Quote from: Big Rich on June 03, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
Yeah- they were great. For paying widows the insurance money. Hence the term "widowmakers"
I have a Yamaha triple. They're not very fast at all, not faster really than our GS. (maybe a little on the top end) They're four-strokes. You're thinking of the Kawasaki H-1 and H-2 two-stroke triples. Those bikes were BAD! Very steep all-or-nothing powerband. It would be completely tame then at about 6 grand it got on the pipe and they would just explode with power so it was hard to get good traction accelerating out of corners. Very hard to ride, noodle frame, wimpy brakes, but classics for sure! They guzzle gas like a Buddha Loves You, too, especially the 750. But the fastest one ever was the Yamaha TZ750 like I mentioned. That was a liquid-cooled four, the bike Kenny Roberts said he was afraid to ride because it was so fast and unruly and was glad when it was banned. If that ain't the wickedest bike I don't know what is.
Ah yes, my bad. Thanks for the clarification.
Quote from: bill14224 on June 08, 2011, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Big Rich on June 03, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
Yeah- they were great. For paying widows the insurance money. Hence the term "widowmakers"
I have a Yamaha triple. They're not very fast at all, not faster really than our GS. (maybe a little on the top end) They're four-strokes. You're thinking of the Kawasaki H-1 and H-2 two-stroke triples. Those bikes were BAD! Very steep all-or-nothing powerband. It would be completely tame then at about 6 grand it got on the pipe and they would just explode with power so it was hard to get good traction accelerating out of corners. Very hard to ride, noodle frame, wimpy brakes, but classics for sure! They guzzle gas like a Buddha Loves You, too, especially the 750. But the fastest one ever was the Yamaha TZ750 like I mentioned. That was a liquid-cooled four, the bike Kenny Roberts said he was afraid to ride because it was so fast and unruly and was glad when it was banned. If that ain't the wickedest bike I don't know what is.
you referring to the water buffalo?
No, the "Water Buffalo" was the GT750 liquid-cooled two-stroke triple Suzuki made in the early 70's. It never touched the Kawasaki 750 two-stroke for sheer power, not even close. They sold them for about 5 years because no one was buying them. It was mild for a two-stroke because it was designed that way, a mistake. They tried to mimic a four-stroke's broad power, so as a result it was mild where you would expect it to be wild. It was supposed to have a broad powerband that was supposed to make you want to treat it like a four-stroke, and it fell short. It was also heavy so it wasn't any faster than a 750 Bonneville of the day, and its handling was inferior to the Bonny, as was its gas mileage by a big margin. And it was considered ugly at the time, and I agree, and I like many "ugly" old bikes. This thing looked like a dehumidifier! It was fairly expensive, too. As a result it didn't sell well, and is now a collectible curiosity. They're worth good money in good shape, but are they good bikes, even by GS500 standards? No. Our GS is better than the water buffalo. Almost as fast, and better in every other way.
As far as old two-strokes go, the best one to compare with our GS would be the Yamaha RD350 and RZ350. The RD performs comparably to our GS, but our GS is much better on gas and is much smoother. The RZ350 is actually better than our GS in every way except gas mileage and comfort. Comfort is about the same, and our GS gets about 15 more MPG than the RZ. The RZ was a very refined two-stroke. In my mind the best two-stroke street bike yet. There will be more in the near future.
Direct injection two-strokes are coming, both cars and bikes. Yes, that's right. The Age of the Two Stroke is about to be re-born!
Imagine this: The two-stroke was largely legislated out-of-existence due to emissions. Why? Because the two-stroke design allows some fuel/air mix to escape from the exhaust, and that's why they guzzle gas for their size. How do we remedy this? The answer is technology, or course! If we make a high-pressure, computer-controlled fuel injection system with high pressure injectors we can inject the proper amount of air/fuel mixture into the right area of the combustion chamber at the precise moment, to allow complete combustion and exhaust without any un-burned mixture escaping the exhaust. The result will be lighter, more powerful, more fuel efficient engines than we have ever seen. Am I excited? You betcha. They already exist. They're just not in production yet, largely because the whole idea is not politically-correct. This is one of many examples of how dumb mankind can be.
will be interesting to see this. i look forward to it. as long as engine wear of old doesnt find its way into the new