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Title: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: nirvanafooman on June 25, 2011, 08:24:32 AM
Had a guy tell me that at a dealership. Leave comments on what u would have said in that moment. :2guns:
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on June 25, 2011, 08:35:26 AM
Define big?
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: xunedeinx on June 25, 2011, 09:54:29 AM
I think theres several people here that are over 200lbs that ride it just fine. Even though it was designed for a 105 lb scrawny Asian man!
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: crzydood17 on June 25, 2011, 10:05:26 AM
im 6'2 300 lbs stock bikes all around and my GS moves just fine i cruise the highway at 80-90 (you have to or you die here) and putter around the streets...
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: nirvanafooman on June 25, 2011, 10:06:14 AM
Lol. I'm 185 lb.   Just thought it was funny he sad that. He was tryin to sell me a bike.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: ben2go on June 25, 2011, 10:08:25 AM
I am 5'8" and was 220lbs when I got my 89.Just to support my weight,I added Progressive springs and a Katana 600 rear shock.It wasn't enough.I rebuilt a Katana 750 front end and installed it along with a Katana 750 rear shock.It was just right.Now I am around 190lbs and it's a little stiff.
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Post by: crzydood17 on June 25, 2011, 10:10:15 AM
man... even on stock springs mine isnt toooo bad... but yeh a kat600 spring and either progressives or stiffer liner springs are the way to go for any weight...
Title: Re: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: LEMON8 on June 25, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
I'm 170 and 6 foot pretty decent for me. Once in a while I feel I'm a little too tall for it but never cared

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Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: mister on June 25, 2011, 12:27:09 PM
Salesmen will try to steer you to the bike that makes Them the most commission.

One chain of stores down here starts of with 10% commission for the first month the bike is in the store. After that, the commission comes down (effecting the asking price) until it's down to 2% or 3% at which point none of the salesmen are interested in selling the thing. In their logic, for the same time spent with a customer they can get 10% so why help with a 3% commission. A five grand bike makes them $500 in the first month or $150 a few months later. While they spend time trying to make $150 a $500 commission could walk out the door.

As to your question... YOU are not too big for the bike. BUT, only you will know if you are Comfortable on the bike. I'm 6'2 with a 34" inseam and find the bike quite comfy. Your biomechanics might be different. Only way to know is ride one.  :thumb:

Michael
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: nirvanafooman on June 25, 2011, 02:52:11 PM
Very true!
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: BaltimoreGS on June 26, 2011, 05:40:32 PM
5' 9" and 240 lbs here   ;)

-Jessie
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: Unsane on June 26, 2011, 06:20:55 PM
6'5" and 250 lb - the GS riding position is comfortable but I would like more seat height.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: nirvanafooman on June 26, 2011, 07:56:37 PM
Would katana suspension help the height of it.....
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Post by: ASUDave on June 26, 2011, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: Unsane on June 26, 2011, 06:20:55 PM
6'5" and 250 lb - the GS riding position is comfortable but I would like more seat height.


5'9 260lbs and the GS rides just fine. Do wish for a stiffer suspension and higher seat.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: ben2go on June 26, 2011, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: nirvanafooman on June 26, 2011, 07:56:37 PM
Would katana suspension help the height of it.....

Raised my bike almost 3 inches front and back.I had to slide my forks up in the triples to get it back down.I am looking at lowering links to get the back down a little more.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: Twisted on June 27, 2011, 12:46:57 AM
95kg (bout 210lbs) 6'2" Stock suspension and I have no troubles on the bike. 
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: slipperymongoose on June 27, 2011, 04:15:59 AM
6"1, and 93ish kg bike feels good. Even a vtr250 felt good for me.
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Post by: murf425 on June 27, 2011, 05:13:42 AM
6'5" and 240, and I ride it just fine. I AM going to lower the pegs pretty soon, though.
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Post by: Twism86 on June 27, 2011, 06:10:49 AM
5'10'' and 160lbs with progressives. I think its perfect!
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Post by: mike__R on June 27, 2011, 07:42:56 AM
6'2" 230 lb no problem.

Looking through the others on here big or small no problem.
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Post by: The Buddha on June 27, 2011, 09:58:45 AM
I'd have asked him what is a bike for a bigger person.
He probably would ahve suggested some repli racer ... and I'll go, yea if you want to be scrunched up like a golf ball then sure it is.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: ryott52 on June 27, 2011, 12:00:21 PM
6'2", 215 lbs, my 89 with its stock clipons and heavier fork oil are fine for me, shock is cranked up to 7 though. Probably eventually going to try a front end swap and sv650 shock.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: madjak30 on June 27, 2011, 01:02:54 PM
5'11 & 275...it was fine...I did a few 600kms (375mile) days and I was fine :thumb: ...I only changed bikes because I wanted more power (yes, I'm immature...what can I say :embarrassed: )...it was a great bike...reliable, good on fuel, easy to maintain, light (didn't realize how light it was until I rode something else for a while)  :cheers:

Later.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: runabout879 on June 27, 2011, 08:30:19 PM
I'm 6'3 and 320. It's fine for me, but I do need to stiffen the suspension. The back end bottoms out a little too easily riding here in Anchorage, since the roads aren't very well maintained.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: crzydood17 on June 28, 2011, 02:36:49 AM
the back end bottoms? never had that happen even if i throw on my GF and im as big as you... front end is a whole different story... your shock might be shot...
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: mister on June 28, 2011, 03:46:03 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on June 28, 2011, 02:36:49 AM
the back end bottoms? never had that happen even if i throw on my GF and im as big as you... front end is a whole different story... your shock might be shot...

It depends if the preload has been adjusted or not.

So, runabout879, have you adjusted the preload to higher than 4?

Michael
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: Twisted on June 28, 2011, 04:07:08 AM
Quote from: mister on June 28, 2011, 03:46:03 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on June 28, 2011, 02:36:49 AM
the back end bottoms? never had that happen even if i throw on my GF and im as big as you... front end is a whole different story... your shock might be shot...

It depends if the preload has been adjusted or not.

So, runabout879, have you adjusted the preload to higher than 4?

Michael

Really makes me wonder if the Australian delivered GS has a different suspension to the US models cause as I have stated I am 210lbs and have not even come close to bottoming out front or rear suspension on my stock GS. And that's with some pretty spirited riding sometimes on rough roads.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: mister on June 28, 2011, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: Twisted on June 28, 2011, 04:07:08 AM
Quote from: mister on June 28, 2011, 03:46:03 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on June 28, 2011, 02:36:49 AM
the back end bottoms? never had that happen even if i throw on my GF and im as big as you... front end is a whole different story... your shock might be shot...

It depends if the preload has been adjusted or not.

So, runabout879, have you adjusted the preload to higher than 4?

Michael

Really makes me wonder if the Australian delivered GS has a different suspension to the US models cause as I have stated I am 210lbs and have not even come close to bottoming out front or rear suspension on my stock GS. And that's with some pretty spirited riding sometimes on rough roads.

I agree. And wonder the same thing.

Michael
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: madjak30 on June 28, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
I doubt it...but you never know...he did say that he was in Anchorage, which is Alaska (although there could be another Anchorage that I don't know about)...nasty frost heaves in the paved roads, and sink hole type pot holes on graded surfaces...I lived in Yellowknife, NWT for a couple of years...-52C daytime highs in the dead of winter, not nice :icon_eek: ...the sun is only up for three to four hours around Christmas time, so it can get kinda nasty...and in Anchorage, I would assume that the humidity in the soil is much worse (Yellowknife was mostly rock...if you wanted a basement in your house you had to blast :o )

So I can see where he might bottom out...especially if he hasn't cranked up the preload to 6 or 7...

Later.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: omio on June 28, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
6'1 350 here on stock suspension, will be upgrading to stiffen a bit as the front bottoms out on RR crossings
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: crzydood17 on June 28, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
yup front needs new springs even if your a featherweight rear needs a new shock for 2 up or heavy riders...
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: mister on June 29, 2011, 02:40:17 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on June 28, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
yup front needs new springs even if your a featherweight rear needs a new shock for 2 up or heavy riders...

Me and twisted have STOCK suspension and the bike rides fine. Blanket statements do Not help anyone.

The front does NOT need new springs even if you're a feather weight. YOUR bike might, some other people's might - but - not everyone does.

The rear does two up fine without a new shock as well. Set it up correctly and it will be fine. Of course, going by the nonstop complaining about the suspension from the US riders, I'd say your suspension just has to be set up different. Cause the Aussie riders just don't seem to be getting these constant bottoming out problems.

Every bike is different. Judge your own bike accordingly.

Michael
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: crzydood17 on June 29, 2011, 02:50:03 AM
the front on a GS is notoriously weak and dives with little weight, upgraded springs add control under braking and cornering. If you two up and add up to more than 350-400 lbs the rear spring is not enough and preload does not affect spring rate, you probably wont bottom out but you will sag super low. I for the squishy front is good for you thats great, for the majority of riders it seems to be a problem.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: Twisted on June 29, 2011, 04:48:40 AM
Majority? Ever heard of the term the minority have the loudest voice? People are not going to make threads saying " I have no problem with my suspension, it is fine" are they? People do make threads to complain about their soft suspension though. So saying the majority of people have a problem with the GS's suspension is a big call when a lot of owners out there are actually happy with the bike the way it is stock.


The suspension on the GS is soft just like the engine is not overly powerful but in the end it is sufficient and does the job well for me. The shocks are not a major handicap that slows the bike down.

Just saying.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: BaltimoreGS on June 29, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
Not to jump in the middle but it also depends on the bike.  Older, well used bikes may have weak/worn springs.  Newer bikes may ride much better just due to less age/wear.  Adfalchius barely brakes 100 pounds but she likes her CBR front end over the worn stock '95 one she had.  I still have the stock front end on my '01 GS and it does fine with my 250 lb ass on it.  To each his own   :thumb:

-Jessie
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Post by: ver4 on June 29, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
At 5'7" and 153 lbs I feel I am way too heavy for my bike.  Just kidding.
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Post by: ben2go on June 29, 2011, 06:17:31 PM
My 89 GS had less than 5000 miles when I bought it and it was as soft as a 50cc mini dirt bike.I think some other countries and some newer US models got a spring upgrade.The only way to know without doing a compression test is to measure the spring wire thickness and count the coils.
Title: Re: who thinks this bike is not for big people....
Post by: runabout879 on June 30, 2011, 05:54:33 PM
Yeah, the shock may be just worn out. It is set at 7 currently. I'd hate to spend the $300+ to put the stock one on to find out it is she same though. Might try it just to see. The biggest problem is, the dealership up here is just a little low on parts for motorcycles, since they mainly sell ATVs and Snowmobiles. Takes a couple weeks to get parts in, unless you're willing to pay for faster shipping.