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Title: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-21-2014
Post by: ben2go on July 13, 2011, 06:05:41 PM
Before

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VERY FIRST MODIFICATION.COMPLETED THE WEEK AFTER I BROUGHT IT HOME!That seems so long ago now,4 years this past May.99 Yamaha R1 Clear Alternatives tail light.
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AFTER
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MY BUILD THREAD.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42478.0

Katana 750 Front End Rebuild
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=40821.0

SV650 Racing Clutch Build
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56043.0

How to swap in a larger GS fuel tank on an older bike.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56658.0

04-07 Honda CRF250X Frame Petcock Install
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56352.0

89-02 Carbs and their parts description.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56601.0

Fuel Cap Disassembling and cleaning the vent.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41061.0

How I found my fuel tank capacity and reserve range.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56758.0

Cheap starter relay and wiring diagram.Should directly replace the GS relay.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56381.0

GS and Katana cheap disassembly  tool and how to.I painted mine.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41239

How To:Sprocket Replacement and Upgrade
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=57937.0

Ignition Coil Relay Mod
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=62039.0

My best mod so far has been the Scorpion AGM battery from www.batterystuff.com

If anyone finds one of my other write ups interesting,let me know,and I will add it here.That way we can all keep up with them.


People ask me about my intake,exhaust,and jetting so here it is.

Exhaust= Right side D&D muffler with an adapter to mate a full length GS header.

Intake=K&N Lunch Box (RU-2970) with GS500F intake boots.The 1st gen are discontinued.

Ignition=See relay mod above.New 7mm NAPA spark plug wires and NGK 5000k 45 degree spark plug caps.This made a big difference.

Jetting was a challenge to get a strong pull from idle to redline.
142.5 mains
40 pilots
NO WASHERS
3.25 turns on the mix screw
10mm removed from slide springs= Eliminates the sluggish bottom end from idle to 3500 rpm.Thanks to PeteGS from DoTheTon for being the guinea pig on this one.

Altitudes I ride in vary from 300 feet above sea level to 6600 feet above sea level.


UPDATE

Dgyver and I started on a 569cc engine for my bike.Here are some specs.

80mm Wiesco pistons and sleeves-We are unsure what bike they came from,but they test fit perfectly.
Copper head gasket
polished and ported head
Mega Cycle Cams with adjustable cam gears
36mm GSXR carbs-36mm Flat Slides are on hold until break in is accomplished.

Bottom end and case checked out so all new bearings and seals have been installed.We buttoned up the bottom end this evening.I did swap out a bad output shaft for a used one in good condition.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: cbrfxr67 on July 13, 2011, 06:38:02 PM
(lovin' it)  F-zantastic!
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: ben2go on July 14, 2011, 10:40:16 AM
Thanks.I wanted a bike that was modified enough that people familiar with them could tell,but not enough to draw to much unwanted attention.

So far my bike has been accused of being a Ducati,Norton,Triumph,Ural,and some other odd bike that sounds french or italian.

For my next trick,I will finish the seat I been working on,a very special solo tail,and repack the D&D muffler.The muffler is starting to sound bad and the packing is rattling inside the can.I'll do a write up on the muffler repack.I'll post some vids since I finally figured out my GF's camera.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: xunedeinx on July 25, 2011, 06:07:51 PM
Well, it isn't french or italian, but it is spanish!!!
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: ben2go on July 26, 2011, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: xunedeinx on July 25, 2011, 06:07:51 PM
Well, it isn't french or italian, but it is spanish!!!

What?I don't get it.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: xunedeinx on July 26, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 26, 2011, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: xunedeinx on July 25, 2011, 06:07:51 PM
Well, it isn't french or italian, but it is spanish!!!

What?I don't get it.

Our bikes, even though were designed by the japs, are made in spain.

So, they're Spanish.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: ben2go on July 26, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
Quote from: xunedeinx on July 26, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 26, 2011, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: xunedeinx on July 25, 2011, 06:07:51 PM
Well, it isn't french or italian, but it is spanish!!!

What?I don't get it.

Our bikes, even though were designed by the japs, are made in spain.

So, they're Spanish.

Really?Mine has made in Japan all over it.I knew some where but were all of them?
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: xunedeinx on July 27, 2011, 03:09:54 AM
IDK, Mine said made in spain on one of the stickers I took off.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: crzydood17 on July 27, 2011, 04:08:20 AM
you took off the vin sticker?
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: mike__R on July 27, 2011, 07:09:03 AM
My 95 said made in Japan.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: ben2go on July 27, 2011, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 27, 2011, 04:08:20 AM
you took off the vin sticker?

Those are completely useless in SC.They made me,strip my bike down,and sand the paint off the head tube so the trooper could read the VIN.The first paragraph of this post explains what I went through to get a title for my bike.It was he77. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=18622.msg293859#msg293859
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: xunedeinx on July 27, 2011, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 27, 2011, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 27, 2011, 04:08:20 AM
you took off the vin sticker?

Those are completely useless in SC.They made me,strip my bike down,and sand the paint off the head tube so the trooper could read the VIN.The first paragraph of this post explains what I went through to get a title for my bike.It was he77. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=18622.msg293859#msg293859

I just read that, I never want to live in SC, ever.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete
Post by: ben2go on July 27, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: xunedeinx on July 27, 2011, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 27, 2011, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 27, 2011, 04:08:20 AM
you took off the vin sticker?

Those are completely useless in SC.They made me,strip my bike down,and sand the paint off the head tube so the trooper could read the VIN.The first paragraph of this post explains what I went through to get a title for my bike.It was he77. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=18622.msg293859#msg293859

I just read that, I never want to live in SC, ever.

If it wasn't for my kids living here,I would move out of the country.Maybe go raid Canada or the Aussies.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 8-17-11
Post by: GSnoober on August 25, 2011, 02:05:53 AM
Couple of problems with those links; first one here:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56381.msg638106#msg638106

should be changed to:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56381.0

to simplify matters.

Second one here:

GS and Katana cheap disassembly  tool and how to.I painted mine.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?board=1;action=post2

isn't a complete link at all; can you fix that? It should end with "topic=xxxxx.0", but I'm sure you already know that.

Thanks Ben; I really appreciate the starter relay substitute you found... along with everything else you've written up for us.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 8-17-11
Post by: ben2go on August 25, 2011, 04:27:01 AM
Quote from: GSnoober on August 25, 2011, 02:05:53 AM
Couple of problems with those links; first one here:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56381.msg638106#msg638106

should be changed to:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56381.0

to simplify matters.

Second one here:

GS and Katana cheap disassembly  tool and how to.I painted mine.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?board=1;action=post2

isn't a complete link at all; can you fix that? It should end with "topic=xxxxx.0", but I'm sure you already know that.

Thanks Ben; I really appreciate the starter relay substitute you found... along with everything else you've written up for us.


Thanks for the heads up.Links are fixed.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 10-7-11
Post by: ben2go on March 21, 2012, 06:03:59 PM
UPDATE 3-21-12

I have had issues banging my hands into the tank on my motorcycle lately.My clip ons are great for sport riding but when I am in the really tight slow speed mountain switch backs,I have to go to wide in the curves because of it.So I decided to make some hi rise bars for my clip ons.Here is how things are progressing.

Stock 92 GS500 bars Marked for cutting.
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Cutting method of choice.
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And cut.
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First try,to wide.
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Lets scoot those in a smidge and mock up the controls.Better.
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Assemble the Targa fairing,make some adjustments, and cap the inside bar ends.Getting there.
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That's pretty close.
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I am waiting on some parts before I install the front brakes and button everything up.It'll be a few more days, if Ron Ayers will step up and get my parts in that are back ordered.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 3-21-2012
Post by: cbrfxr67 on March 21, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
**Good stuff here!  Great pics sir!  Ronayers is the slowest ever in the shipping department.  A guy I work with actually knows Mr Ayers, and whenever I order something I always hack on him and tell him to tell Ron Ayers his shipping department is the worst.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 3-21-2012
Post by: ben2go on March 21, 2012, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 21, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
**Good stuff here!  Great pics sir!  Ronayers is the slowest ever in the shipping department.  A guy I work with actually knows Mr Ayers, and whenever I order something I always hack on him and tell him to tell Ron Ayers his shipping department is the worst.

Thanks.

Maybe they will get it together one day.This is the first time I have had issues with them being slow.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 3-21-2012
Post by: ben2go on March 21, 2012, 08:08:22 PM
As soon as I posted the statement above,I got an email saying my order has shipped.It's coming from Greenville,NC so it shouldn't take it long to hit my door,Sat maybe Mon.Maybe they are getting it together.It's only been 8 business days since I placed my order.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 3-26-2012
Post by: ben2go on March 26, 2012, 08:32:36 PM
I added the after pics to the first topic of my thread.Still changing as can be seen from the past few post I have made.More to come.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 9-26-2012
Post by: ben2go on September 26, 2012, 05:14:17 PM
The high bars I posted above worked but I didn't like the feeling being so upright on this bike.I went back to the clip ons.


When I upgraded my turn signals,I had to install an EL12 electronic flasher relay.I found that my original EL12 relay had busted in its original mounting location.I bought a new one,mounted it, and here are the results.

First EL12.See through and sexy.Racey,ain't it?
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Here's what I found today.Sorry bout the pocket lint.I took it with me to show the dumbass counter jockey.
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Here's the new one in its new location.It's just plain gray and not so racey.
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Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 9-26-2012
Post by: mab32 on October 01, 2012, 07:30:04 AM
That's a beautiful bike !
Really nice.
Wanna sell it  ;)
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 9-26-2012
Post by: ben2go on October 01, 2012, 07:51:26 AM
Quote from: mab32 on October 01, 2012, 07:30:04 AM
That's a beautiful bike !
Really nice.
Wanna sell it  ;)

I'm gonna keep this one.I have a few more things I'd like to do to it.The paint is starting to look a little rough.I don't know when I will get the time or money to do any of the mods I still want to do.

What I want to do in this order.
T-mod R1 rear shock
Emulators in the Kat forks with 190kg springs and adjustable spring preload fork caps.
Big Bore-can be done using certain 2V GS pistons 850/1100 still researching this.
FI using microsquirt
Finish my solo tail
Fresh coat of black chrome

I'm sure this list will grow.A project is never done.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-11-13
Post by: ben2go on April 10, 2013, 09:33:20 PM
Updates at the bottom of the first post.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: ben2go on April 28, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
569cc engine build pics are posted on page 4 of this thread. http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=14401.0
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: GI_JO_NATHAN on April 28, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Looking great Ben!

That was interesting what you did with cutting the bars and putting them in the clip-ons. I should have done that on my yellow bike.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: ben2go on April 28, 2013, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on April 28, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Looking great Ben!

That was interesting what you did with cutting the bars and putting them in the clip-ons. I should have done that on my yellow bike.

I still have the bars if you want them.They were uncomfortable on my wrists.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: GI_JO_NATHAN on May 24, 2013, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: ben2go on April 28, 2013, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on April 28, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Looking great Ben!

That was interesting what you did with cutting the bars and putting them in the clip-ons. I should have done that on my yellow bike.

I still have the bars if you want them.They were uncomfortable on my wrists.
Nah. Thanks anyways.
Wife low sided it..
Selling off some extra parts, then gonna sell the GS later this summer.
She wants a different bike when she heals up.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: ben2go on May 24, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
That's cool.Hope she's alright after that.I haven't even been able to look at the GS since I got this V Star.I hope next week to get a few little piddly things done on it.When I ride,I'll start rotating them out in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: jacob92icu on May 24, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
Really cool looking bike, great job. I would have never thought that the new tank would look awesome on the old bikes. What belly pan is that? looked through the thread and couldnt find it. Great job, keep up the good work. :thumb:
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: BeerIsSoAwesome on May 24, 2013, 11:09:43 PM
Your homemade clip-on setup is freaking me out. Mechanically I can't find anything wrong with it, but it looks terrifying.

And thanks for answering the question I never asked anyone-- "Does the new tank fit on the older models?" I may do that to mine if I own it long enough.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: ben2go on May 25, 2013, 06:23:18 AM
Quote from: jacob92icu on May 24, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
Really cool looking bike, great job. I would have never thought that the new tank would look awesome on the old bikes. What belly pan is that? looked through the thread and couldnt find it. Great job, keep up the good work. :thumb:

Thanks.The lower is the matching Targa unit that goes with the 1/4 fairing.


Quote from: BeerIsSoAwesome on May 24, 2013, 11:09:43 PM
Your homemade clip-on setup is freaking me out. Mechanically I can't find anything wrong with it, but it looks terrifying.

And thanks for answering the question I never asked anyone-- "Does the new tank fit on the older models?" I may do that to mine if I own it long enough.

Yeah the high bars weren't so great as far as wrist position.My plan was to use high bars for traveling and clip ons for corner carving.I went back to the stock CBR F1/2 Clip on bars.The older tank is direct bolt on.If you have clip on style bars,they will hit the tank.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: aspirin on June 01, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Hey Ben.

You've listed your air filter as an SU-5589 (K and N airbox-mounted filter) yet you say it's the lunchbox filter (which is designated as an RU-2970). I'm looking to get an SU-5589 filter to replace my RU-2970.

So if you have, indeed, got an SU-5589 with the restricter ring removed I'm under the impression that 142.5 main with stock enrichment needle position is correct? Because most other people with the lunchbox filter (RU-2970) have got 150 mains.
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-27-13
Post by: ben2go on June 01, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
Quote from: aspirin on June 01, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Hey Ben.

You've listed your air filter as an SU-5589 (K and N airbox-mounted filter) yet you say it's the lunchbox filter (which is designated as an RU-2970). I'm looking to get an SU-5589 filter to replace my RU-2970.

So if you have, indeed, got an SU-5589 with the restricter ring removed I'm under the impression that 142.5 main with stock enrichment needle position is correct? Because most other people with the lunchbox filter (RU-2970) have got 150 mains.


Thanks for pointing that out.I am in fact running the RU-2970 lunch box filter.I am running 142.5 mains,40 pilots,no shims on the needles,3.5 turns on the mix screws,and 10mm cut from the slide springs.150 mains were fouling plugs and killing the riders behind with overly rich exhaust fumes.Also,carb sync/balance makes a big difference.I use the cheapo clear hose with two stroke oil to sync/balance my carbs.Really smooths things up.

Here is where I got the idea to cut my slide springs.It worked like a dream.My throttle response is perfect from take off to red line.I eliminated all the low speed hesitation by doing this mod.I removed 10mm to start and it worked so I didn't do the whole 20mm. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28302.msg514349#msg514349
Title: Re: 89 GS Build-Still Not 100% Complete-UPDATED 4-21-2014
Post by: ben2go on April 21, 2014, 06:07:32 PM
Working on getting things squared away, so I can get together with dgyver and finish the 569cc 80mm big bore engine.The details can be found starting on post 59 near the bottom of this link. http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=14401.40 I think I am going to go back to the GS front end and use the Katana front end for my adventure GS build.I haven't decided.